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asciilifeform: important point also -- ssd in raid never wins, only loses speed
asciilifeform: algo -- simple, you pull the 1 that a) has nonzero write failure counter, or if none such, b) the one with highest blocks-written count .
asciilifeform: 4 is the min. that makes any sense
asciilifeform: ( i.e. prophylactically pull one erry yr or so and insert fresh replacement )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-22#1930027 << i run (iron) raid w/ ssd, but must point out, i rotate'em
asciilifeform: a++ pathologoanatomy
asciilifeform: indeed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nao you know why i skipped the ' feed linux random ' stack entirely in '16. ( admittedly didn't get even half as far as bvt before barfed )
asciilifeform: a.
asciilifeform: can't resist to ask, what counts as 'civilization'
asciilifeform waves to mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: holyFUCK the sheer fecal mass.
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform: ... and moar lul
asciilifeform: meanwhile... 'random log button' yields a historic lulzthread .
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they like to fiber most of the way to destination (for obv. reason)
asciilifeform: or usg drone base, etc.
asciilifeform: maybe some living fossil, french colonial fort.
asciilifeform: betcha there's some convoluted reason asciilifeform would never in 9000 yrs guess at, for fiber-to-africa
asciilifeform: they can watch miami-vision via sat dish like erry other sad orc.
asciilifeform: why not also run fiber to the penguins in south p. i suspect they can just as easily pay.
asciilifeform: maybe i'm thick, but what the fuck do angola and cameroon need net connections for ?!
asciilifeform: spain, portugal tho. rather than riga.
asciilifeform: a.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. rather than silently forwarding packets over atm or whatever antediluvian horror )
asciilifeform: 'traceroute' is of pretty limited use for this sorta thing, it will only reveal hops which behave as traditional ip switch
asciilifeform: tho, quite unsurprisingly, does not claim that any intercontinental makes landfall in riga (cuz wtf)
asciilifeform: one heathen source (by no less than 'huawei'!1) claims -- that indeed are.
asciilifeform: last i knew there were 0 direct lines from south a. to europistan, at all.
asciilifeform: i suppose theoretically -- could. but wai.
asciilifeform: hrm mebbe my globe is upside-down, but i can't easily picture how cable can run from riga to south a. direct..
asciilifeform: similarly to 'vianna <-> zurich', this also imho slightly laggier than ordinary globe would suggest
asciilifeform: ty spyked
asciilifeform: draw -- map. 'why is vienna <-> zurich , apparently as far as moon' etc
asciilifeform: imho would be interesting to formally map out these 'mystery' delays.
asciilifeform: in olden times, when they at least had shame, would tape deck in the very undersea capsule and retrieve with sub. today -- this , instead.
asciilifeform: ( can't even make their shitware snoop in ~realtime, moreover )
asciilifeform: clitler's magick wand, see, cannot alter phys. constants...
asciilifeform: ( often enuff there's a concealed -- if not always well-concealed -- roundtrip to london / washington, sitting in 'between austria and switzerland' etc )
asciilifeform: lobbes: presently seems to me that 'distance' such as exists on net, corresponds moar closely to '# of hops through nsa cisco' rather than naive 'km of fiber'.
asciilifeform: rright. wedge could easily be happening on acct of some idjit perl running on a crab usg clamped to cable in bermuda triangle...
asciilifeform: it's entirely conceivable tho that the wedge is on acct of a http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-08-20#1000423 !
asciilifeform: trinque: it is interesting that the ssl thing gets wedged. if i had free hand might even try to find where -- could be a 0day in there, potentially
asciilifeform: lobbes: but even there, i sat an' read e.g. 'programming of hell', got goin' with ada
asciilifeform: lobbes: in those days could think, more or less, only on the train.
asciilifeform: trinque: as i currently understand, you prolly cannot use exactly same algo in deedbot as in snsabot -- deedbot occasionally has to speak asynchronously. you'll need locking queue (as i think you already have)
asciilifeform: see thrd re subj
asciilifeform: i was unable to sit pehbot under znc, for this reason
asciilifeform: trinque: in yours, tho, iirc there ~is~ such a knob (it waits for a fleanode-specific ack string when connects)
asciilifeform: trinque: atm i can't think of any reason why you couldn't sit it under e.g. znc. (my bot doesn't use any fleanodeisms internally)
asciilifeform: it will still be annoying, but not fatal
asciilifeform: not yet stuck (or even bumped, other than by my own hand) .
asciilifeform: !q uptime
asciilifeform: trinque: atm the bot on dulap is 'naked' <-> fleanode
asciilifeform: trinque: i haven't attempted an under-znc variant of yet
asciilifeform: lobbes: i imagine getting rid of dependopotamus must rock, even more than 'expel the cow and the goat' in the chelem tale. suddenly all the surfaces 2x cleaner, the bag o' benjies 'magically' fuller...
asciilifeform can read written pl approx as readily as engl, but to hear'em ~speak~ is other story entirely
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: relatedly, the trad ru 'ethno-slur' for poles, 'пшеки', is quite a bit like 'пшик', what nominally spray can says.
asciilifeform: 'they're pretty much the only linguistic group very much in danger of mistaking industrial sounds for speech. Careful if you, for instance, use a can of compressed air to clean an old motherboard -- it's entirely possible the resulting vijiieli, indistinct as they may sound to your ear, nevertheless insult the Polish passerby's long dead relatives in the sauciest of manners.' << asciilifeform falls down.
asciilifeform: ( recently, asciilifeform's brother : 'know what, mr p could design an os; you can't' a: 'why's that' b: 'he has the beard' )
asciilifeform: also a+++ tripartite beard.
asciilifeform: this is imho underappreciated skill -- not many folx know how to photograph food properly
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: tasty looking foodz btwr
asciilifeform: ( 'pet!' 'owner!' 'feed me' 'hrm wait aint this backwards' )
asciilifeform: folx who won't train their pets, will end on a leash themselves, noose at 11...
asciilifeform: compl. w/ 'i want dog but woman won't let' and the like
asciilifeform: lobbes: i got stuck in an airport 1ce with the thieves fella. he lived under the heel of wife, like saharov. entirely broken man.
asciilifeform somehow escaped knowing this
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: kako had dependopotamus ?!
asciilifeform: lobbes: one translation
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: rright, but not only this, but packet switching is nuffin like straight wire , is monstrously slow vs theoretical
asciilifeform: lobbes: do you know the old j00 folk tale where http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-06-30#1920764 ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc he described it at length even before, languished for years with dependopotamus
asciilifeform: lobbes: when you stand up bot, make sure to change prefix knob ( both for when you arrange with mp_en_viaje to voice it in #t, but especially in the other chans, where if you fughet to change knob, it will step on the feet of mine )
asciilifeform: i suspect presently that for nearly all installations, the 'limiting reactant' will be pipe bw, rather than cpu, ram, etc
asciilifeform: it's really notbad when entire orchestra is coupla times smaller than available ram
asciilifeform: phuctor for 1st 2y of its life actually lived in a sqlite, and in fact this was faster than pg when data set weighed <1GB
asciilifeform: ( i.e. theoretically might even be faster if one were to sit it down in a sqlite rather than postgres. that is, if there were any actual need to make this thing faster, currently seems that there is not any such need )
asciilifeform: lobbes: it aint a very 'hungry' proggy -- e.g. the db presently weighs <70MB
asciilifeform: imho it's quite straightforward
asciilifeform: lobbes: lemme know if you run into any headache in standing up bot/reader
asciilifeform: and wb deedbot !
asciilifeform: interesting that there's an entire 150ms b/w austria & frankfurt
asciilifeform: lobbes: ty. moar or less what i'd expect to see.
asciilifeform: ( jizzus , per legend, could feed a legion with 2 fish, but even he could not , i suspect, feed legion with 1 unmetered 100M pipe... )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm skeptical that we're already outta pipe. but if this persists we will have to actually meter folx.
asciilifeform: also worrisome is that http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-20#1929804 thing
asciilifeform: not a properly threaded one
asciilifeform: meanwhile : BingoBoingo rk3328 seems to be back in print ! 50bux for the 4 GB, for 2 GB -- 35.
asciilifeform: trinque, still no deedbot?!
asciilifeform: the mirrors are identical to the orig ( in re pythonism, nginx, etc ) and in fact considerably slower boxen, and laden with shitlinux ('centos') iirc . geography is the killer, imho satisfactorily proven .
asciilifeform: ( granted there aint a fiber through the diameter. but. )
asciilifeform: planet3 is only ~43 light-millisecond in diameter, elementarily
asciilifeform: # of hops via buggered switches i suspect matters moar than km of fiber
asciilifeform: ty mp_en_viaje .
asciilifeform: theeere we go.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje if you've 1s, time curl http://18.195.64.227/log/trilema/2018-04-18#1802801 > /dev/null
asciilifeform: ftr i get ~1.00s ('heavy page' test) from washingtonistan
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mp_en_viaje , spyked , et al : http://18.195.64.227/log << copy of 'rubbish mirror', identical (same 'dollar store' pseudo-isp) but this one in frankfurt. try the same timing w/ it.
asciilifeform: atm it seems quite impossible even to say which ~generates~ the pgs faster -- the diff, if any, is entirely dwarfed by pipe effects