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BingoBoingo: Shhhhh, you are about
to spoil
the part where
the hittites surprise pete_d with iron weapns
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> catch is, you have
to... burn
the world. << How many people here are seriously opposed
to
this condition
decimation: in your room-sized FPGA,
there is probably a spot for a few 'risc' finite automata
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> da fuck is platonic hardware supposed
to be << Aristotle's natal cleft
mircea_popescu: decimation: as I recall it cost around $2k in
the late 80's << ahh,
the days when a shitty mouse was 100 bux.
mircea_popescu: at some point you gotta put an engine in
there somewhere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just like cars are a steel banded joining of
the walking of people ?
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah
the "crawlers" are human beings
mircea_popescu: decimation: C is more-or-less a fancy set of macros around assembly <<<
this is actually pretty much it.
BingoBoingo: Next
time I'll sign
the hash of
the prediction
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> *: asciilifeform opens koraktor, bound in human skin, and searches for a death spell for google << wot based search. working
towards it. << Caled it when you asked about crawling millions of urls
mircea_popescu: all
these fucktards with
the "blockchain
technology" have no fucking idea even what
the
technology actually is
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform opens koraktor, bound in human skin, and searches for a death spell for google << wot based search. working
towards it.
decimation: I want someone
to draw a cartoon: young man approaches greybeard lounging under a
tree: greybeard - why do you laze instead of being productive? - He says: you
try
to make something useful - off
the young one goes
through
trial and
tribulation - eventually, ending up under a
tree.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well,
then
they sold
their soul
to IBM
mircea_popescu: why
the fuck would "we". jesus burn every
text with we in it already.
decimation: this is probably
the most rational approach
toward
the modern c-machine
decimation: "But suppose everyone wrote
their own subroutines? Isn't
that a step backward; away from
the millenium when our programs are machine independent, when we all write in
the same language, maybe even on
the same computer? Let me
take a stand: I can't solve
the problems of
the world. With luck, I can write a good program. "
assbot: Loper OS » Going Nowhere Really Fast, or How Computers Only Come in
Two Speeds.
decimation: but my 8088 did
that running at 8 mhz in wordperfect
decimation: yeah, I guess in
this case
the 'cargo-cult' is building a wooden global namespace
decimation: yet it
takes like 50 megabytes
to instantiate Xeyes?
decimation: somehow Mr. Moore can write a chip-design
tool in a few hundred lines of forth
decimation: asciilifeform: actually
this is an interesting point. Why does every platform insist on dynamic libraries?
decimation: yeah it's really really
tiresome
to live in someone else's fucktarded world
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> under rusty old msdos one can, generally, actually program in c << because, again, if i want
to kil a ms-dos dependency I DELETE
THE FILE
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i
think when I was 9 it was like 4 weeks allowance
to get Borland or whatever C compiler
they were selling at
the
time.
decimation: asciilifeform: here's
the link for what you are getting at:
http://www.colorforth.com/POL.htm " Now we get down
the
the nitty-gritty.
This is our first clash with
the establishment.
The conventionsl approach, enforced
to a greater or lesser extent, is
that you shall use a standard subroutine. I say
that you should write your own subroutines. "
decimation: heh yeah
there are so many distro's and
tard-libraries in linux
decimation: one wonders what
the point of using open source OS's would be if you can't read C
thestringpuller: asciilifeform:
this is pretty much
the stance. you have
to seek it out, if you want
to learn it. I guess what
they are producing are not programmers at
that point?
decimation: yeah "C" was going out of style when I graduated in
the early 2000's, CS was converting
to full-java
assbot: Logged on 15-04-2014 18:34:43; asciilifeform: 'we refuse
to produce any more C programmers who are a danger
to
themselves and others.' -- my old dean
dgeats: !up BingoBoingo, happy
to be here
mircea_popescu: decimation you don't understand. for him, matter of life and death.
that's how he eats.
thestringpuller: decimation: at any rate, one cannot consider
themsleves a programmer
today without knowing C << unfortunately not a lot of people learn C in what you may call "computer science education" (or is so named)
decimation: asciilifeform: but,
that's new jersey style!
decimation: perhaps in
the future it will not be so
decimation: at any rate, one cannot consider
themsleves a programmer
today without knowing C
decimation: a few years ago I
tried
to make an edit
to wikipedia's 'climate change' entry. a similar down's syndrome case guards
that page - immediately reverting any non-libtard edit
mircea_popescu: well, i just sent you one, should be a
tab opened somewhere next
to where it says #bitcoin-assets
mircea_popescu: arguably c doesn't do much
to help
the programmer not be stupid.
then again, it doesn't actually force
them
to be dumb. sort of like asm, and nobody really hates asm.
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> So I'm reading
this conversation about programming languages from 7 days ago (28-10-2014).
There is a lot of
trash
talking about OOPs, like C++. I don't see anyone mention C. Is C just not worth mentioning? <<< c is really not ~that~ bad.
decimation: if you search
the logs
there are pointers
to folks who have hardware projects
that interface ibm ps/2 keyboards made in
the 80's
to usb
thestringpuller: co workers hated
the clicking but damn it was a slick keyboard
thestringpuller: yea I used one of
those. I wanna get
the one with
the mouse in
the middle (like on
the
think-pads) for my desktop.