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phf: i found a "собрание сочинений" pack of his english texts, but it doesn't have dpp, nor is amazon etc. turning up a translated version.
asciilifeform: of the translation, i mean
asciilifeform: i suspect mircea_popescu would luvv that piece
phf: asciilifeform: i was thinking the one числа (or perhaps it's called мощь великого?), that was re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687868 and the general discussion of "acting from gut" ☝︎
asciilifeform: can milk cow. if it gives milk. whole puzzle was, as i understand, 'can haz milk? or go straight to meat'
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 22:06 mircea_popescu: "do i own this box, yes/no" "if yes, why is there crap on it / if no why am i futzing with it".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687870 << 'do i own this cow? if yes, why is it not sausage yet' ☝︎
asciilifeform: gotta wonder what was the thought process. 'i'ma pay for dope with shitpal just this ONCE' ??
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what i meant is, i dun have necessarily a communicable logic for why i operate in particular way, and if pressed , tend to react similarly to mircea_popescu's
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: also, that you framed "i think with this" shows that... you're head. hate to break it to you. to "think with gut" is to choose a restaurant to eat at not to open a restaurant.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't actually recall his role in the anvin affair
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:12 ben_vulpes: in other boeckisms: https://blog.hboeck.de/archives/888-How-I-tricked-Symantec-with-a-Fake-Private-Key.html
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687877 << i hate to disappoint pete_dushenski , but i also think with gut. however, perhaps different section of gut than mircea_popescu . ☝︎
ben_vulpes: in other boeckisms: https://blog.hboeck.de/archives/888-How-I-tricked-Symantec-with-a-Fake-Private-Key.html ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 21:59 asciilifeform: i betcha mircea_popescu plays fine game of chesss
mircea_popescu: "do i own this box, yes/no" "if yes, why is there crap on it / if no why am i futzing with it". ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'll add that thinking per se dun have to make you predictable from game theoretical pov , the other major trap
asciilifeform: though it is arduous, and i'd rather get oracle installed, somebody gotta say to me where .
asciilifeform: i dun got an oracle
asciilifeform: i betcha mircea_popescu plays fine game of chesss ☟︎
diana_coman: played a bit with ffa too; maybe I get some time to add to mod6's testing of it
mircea_popescu: dumbfounding shitnonsense is this anyway. i do the things i do because they ARE! the right things to do. present fucking tense. not because i'm hopping such and such a tomorrow as'll make them retrospectively the right things. wtf is even this, inflatothink.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666713 <- finally got around to try it and I can confirm it works perfectly fine on gnat 2016 from adacore, gcc 4.9.4 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i literally, and entirely, don't give a shit what happens tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: i care what happened yesterday. and what happened yesterday was, i owned a box. and on it, i...
mircea_popescu: i don't care what happens tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: yes. if... i own... a box... i ~~~therefore~~~ remove... the crap on it. and then, install, non crap on it.
asciilifeform: well i suppose you can also do it because achieved enlightenment on lsd, or whichever, but this is harem , not forum, and not communicable
mircea_popescu: this is the point. i'm neither the left pepsi can nor the right pepsi can and you're neither invited or allowed to choose me.
mircea_popescu: i am not maximizing anyone for anything.
asciilifeform: i thought thread was re hypothetical infected idjits
mircea_popescu: if i own, then.
mircea_popescu: but... if i own a box... therefore... i check and remove... crap.. and then... instal... sanity.
mircea_popescu: i own a box. this box has crap on it. therefore... i ... delete the crap. and put something sane on./
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit if it's 0 or -0.01
mircea_popescu: i still don't follow this. so : there's a chickfield. upon this chickfield you run a transform. it results in either all of them dying or some useful slavegirls surviving.
mircea_popescu: i don't see this. write it out ?
asciilifeform: as i understand it -- dichotomy
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687636 << how long it takes is not really the point. i DID in fact verify that candi_lustt was not http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687580 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 20:13 mircea_popescu: but as to the practical knot - i dun wanna squeeze idiots for anything. to begin with, the very definition of idiocy assures me they have nothing i want.
pete_dushenski: i shan't give up on this lol even if it is now a stale, forced effort!
pete_dushenski: i got a kick out of the 'we are mp because we can haz podcast, bow hethens!!1' schtick
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 17:49 pete_dushenski: for whatever 'cybermilitary' is worth, i'd pit .il against any other
mircea_popescu: more ridiculous than it sounds* i mean.
pete_dushenski: i can see it
mircea_popescu: tell you what, "eh fuck this shit" is how i ended up with millions in deployed capital, the roi of which was above par overall (not counting any subjectives).
pete_dushenski: well aren't we just the a/c salesmen. well goddamit if i call him right now to install it's of my own volition!!1
mircea_popescu: centrail air, i'm telling you. can heat/cool/humidifix/filter, you name it.
pete_dushenski: great, now i'm imagining black footlong dongs as ceiling mobiles. THIS IS BAD FOR CHILDREN MKDAY
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 17:09 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: blackzilla is enjoying the seasonal weather more than i'm enjoying the seasonal smoke. being downwind of the massive bc fires isn't doing wonders for the ol' respiratory tract. (waking up coughing, etc.) . needless to say i've a newfound appreciation for the sorry denizens of chinese mega-cities. it's one of those "you never know what you've got until it's gone" (tm) things
mircea_popescu: but as to the practical knot - i dun wanna squeeze idiots for anything. to begin with, the very definition of idiocy assures me they have nothing i want. ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is great thread, but i have an incoming, so brb..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i do not want anything in particular ; but i do observe and therefore declare that as water flows to lower ground and as good money pushes out the bad so too better computers own shittier computers and there's jack shit me or you or them or anyone can do about this.
asciilifeform: as i see it the 2 are disjoint
mircea_popescu: anyway, but the tendency is there, your mind is "oh, mircea_popescu os". except i've no intention to mircea_popescu os anyone as such.
asciilifeform: i read the original uci proposal as straight weapon of us vs them
mircea_popescu: and this is my point here : yes, bitcoin corrupts. i mean specific things by this term of art, they're in the logs.
asciilifeform: i.e. where market re-prices the faux-carpenter as pork on the hoof per pound ?
asciilifeform: trinque: this is where i will admit that your argument is making 0 sense to me
mircea_popescu: i dunno that i have a definition, but the afore-the-fact grates.
asciilifeform: it was how i read the original trilema article re subj
trinque: so I'll pay them to do more
trinque: rather than here I sit, I paid some nodes to do work, turned out the output was useful to me
mircea_popescu: if i ask the owner of machine A to write me a bubblesort or write abada on his tits or whatever ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 15:19 mircea_popescu: and entirely unrelatedly : anyone willing to stand up an irc bot for me (as a service for hire deal) and expose some kind of programmable interface that can read messages to it, process and push out a reply ? bonus points if i don't have to learn crazy-shitstick-"$modernlanguage".
asciilifeform: (i.e., on what do you compute, such that only MOST mutations are lethal, rather than ALL )
asciilifeform: describe a model of computation that is 1) usefully complete -- can carry out actual work 2) is substantially non-brittle - i.e. flipping 20% of the bits results in something that is only, say, 20% away from, but still recognizable as the original performer, rather than liquishit
mircea_popescu: what are you suggesting i try ?
asciilifeform: i -- did
asciilifeform: what can i say, do try it
mircea_popescu: i hold this is a sore misperception.
mircea_popescu: (by spaces i mean spaces of possibilities, you can write any succession of letters but can't make any molecule you need work the way you'd expect)
mircea_popescu: i really don't give a shit what anyone wants.
mircea_popescu: i need his two dollars like i need his girlfriend.
mircea_popescu: so far the ~only problem i can discern keeping cool things from long ago existing is the pretense of allowing idiots choice.
mircea_popescu: phf ikr ? seems the most placid obviousness to me somehow. i must be a little odd.
asciilifeform: this is an entertaining idea ( though i predict that the typical luser will run ever the moar quicker to the new hdd shop from it ) but was not in mircea_popescu's classical uci spec.
mircea_popescu: but like i just said ? if you end up owning a machine with crap installed, what do you do ? wipe the crap, install a sane os and continue.
mircea_popescu: i see absolutely 0 reason of tmsr tolerating non tmsr software on same box. wipe it all on sight.
mircea_popescu: i expect step 0 : rewrite mbr, fix rest of hdd, reboot into sane os.
mircea_popescu: whether server A im talking to i'm talking so it adds 2 and 2 for me, or gives me a new friend, or shoots a missile, is not a part of design consideration.
asciilifeform: i was still speaking of uci bots
asciilifeform: i do not know of a solution to this presently
mircea_popescu: this is not what i see. what i see is that you have a list of C1..n machines ; some of which are included arbitrarily in a list of S1...j and some of which are not.
asciilifeform: i'll point out that i do not know of a different recipe than mircea_popescu's ( and in fact is same used by 'skype' and various heathens , for many years. )
mircea_popescu: i... guess
mircea_popescu: i hear apple stocks them.
asciilifeform: i.e. to shout
mircea_popescu: amusingly i also put it in the log earlioer today. so what of it ?
mircea_popescu: i do.
mircea_popescu: if i put up a box my S list will look nothing like yours.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is only a problem in the sense of "i have decided to not work today so i can't"
asciilifeform: ( if somebody wants to describe how , i'll listen )
asciilifeform: it can't really be vanished away without killing 'tcp to arsebook' etc also. as i currently understand it.
mircea_popescu: necessarily. if you grant nat implemented correctly, your problem is exactly that of the british girl on the deserted island. "so how was the sex ?" "i dunno, no star topoloigies!!!"
mircea_popescu: "i have boxes that don't respond to unknowns and no way to make unknowns known can has solution ?" alfian style problem.
asciilifeform: i want a nonstar topology.
mircea_popescu: i dun follow what the problem's supposed to be with the above scheme.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's concretize . say i write an infector. what should be its mechanism of connecting to greater tmsr ?
mircea_popescu: i understand no such thing.