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asciilifeform: 2,987.8 BTC << that might buy a non-retarded implementation of 'onion routing' even.
mircea_popescu: the more you sit on btc the greater the pleasure gets.
jurov: btw, anyone can submit any other proposal. not like it's destined for me to sit on it forever
jurov: mod5, ben_vulpes: i hereby submit a proposal for the foundation's fund to be used for x.idiff marketmaking
assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
kakobrekla: what happened to blogbot?
assbot: Maramu’ pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
saifedean: coz it's kept it in its original shape, i think
saifedean: but there's tables and crap... but i guess you don't really need to visualize brazilian ethanol production
mircea_popescu: save as text ?
saifedean: any idea how to convert it to txt?
assbot: Contact : PGP pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: can it be txt ? http://trilema.com/contact-pgp/
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> i dug up the old phd and can email it to any of you who are interested. not sure it's worth publishing as it's still too academese to interest normals << let me gues, it;s pdf ?
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> science by committee and public grant << totally.
BingoBoingo: <saifedean> so what do you gentlement do around here? what time are the virgin sacrifices? << Those happen on Reddit
thestringpuller: Seinfeld and a bunch of 90's commedians are coming out as aspies << i couldn't tell
BingoBoingo: So the big stories from NBC Nightly news tonight: Berlin wall fell, Seinfeld and a bunch of 90's commedians are coming out as aspies
saifedean: lol, touche... i had meant normals in the sense of non-academics... though to be fair, this didn't interest the academics either :)
saifedean: i dug up the old phd and can email it to any of you who are interested. not sure it's worth publishing as it's still too academese to interest normals
hanbot: saifedean, small world, among others, is pretty much the story of this problem
asciilifeform: (british, but applicable to all the nato colonies)
saifedean: but of course the vast majority of people who play this circle jerk end up sucking and not getting sucked, somewhere along the line, funding dries up, a department closes down, a professor dies and you're left unemployable and with nothing useful to contribute to anyone
saifedean: science on a public budget is a self-referential circle jerk: get with the system and suck the cock above you and you might be lucky to get your cock sucked below sometime soon... you'll spend your life sucking and getting sucked and soon won't even remember your cute teenage aspirations of doing something useful
kakobrekla: yes those two are so cute together
assbot: Logged on 01-04-2014 02:12:07; asciilifeform: 'The basic problem is that the robber-barons of Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office. But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Ju
saifedean: it's the DMV-fication of science...
bounce: so in a sense a side-effect of too many scientists
saifedean: the only way to get into a phd program, get a grant, get a job, get into a journal is if you buy into the premises... once you bought into the premises, the 'scientific method' will bring out the right result.. if you try to rock the boat, you're simply wasting the time of people who have research grant deadlines to meet and so can't be bothered to sit and actually think of anything
saifedean: well, it is very soviet, but it's more subtle than 'using grant money to coerce lies'
mircea_popescu: because this sounds so very soviet...
mircea_popescu: saifedean so basically, would you say the usg is using grant money to coerce lies being published as "science" and to force people who won't do it leave academia ?
saifedean: imma dig that heretic version up and see what it's like, havent looked at it in years...
bounce: also, I'ma leave that tyop right there.
saifedean: well taleb was the reason i went heretical, or the gateway drug at least, i met him and became friend and then went heretic... he liked the heretic version and was happy to be on my committee as the external examiner... but the columbia folks didn't like it so i had to rewrite it and do my Hail USG's, and he still sat onmy committee for that one and helped me defend it from their fangs
asciilifeform: cazalla: see earlier thread today re: 'parallel construction'
cazalla: working on an article atm, this sr2.0 kid is either really dumb or stole the coins himself when sr2 was hacked twice
asciilifeform secretly hopes for taleb-minus-the-jackassery
thestringpuller: i thought cults didn't produce anything valuable
saifedean: it's on my hard-drive, a long talebian/popperian/hayekian fisking of climate science and its pretenses of knowledge
pete_dushenski: and how did you turn that heretic paper into a friendship with the guy?
mircea_popescu: saifedean so what happened to the original ?
pete_dushenski: saifedean heh cool story. taleb has that effect
saifedean: i had already got my job but needed the degree, so after i started the job, i had to basically write a whole new phd, get a new advisor and make it ivy-league-approved... the result is the derpage you saw above. read at your own risk
mircea_popescu: independent of them.
mircea_popescu: bounce the femiwhales "warning" normal, healthy women about [their delusional notions of] "rape" aren't doing it because "they fear healthy women might be hurt". what they fear is that healthy women may live an independent life.
thestringpuller: my parents didn't even learn trig until college
thestringpuller: bounce: they taught us single variable calculus in high school
bounce: math is hard on children. because kiddie-huggers feared it might be so they came up with kiddie math and now the real math is too hard
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is excellent proof that people derping random derpage may be idiots, but are not just for that reason actually evil.
saifedean: there's a long ass story about how this came about which i may tell to you some day near a fire... i basically started reading taleb in my third year and went off the good Ivy rails... by the end of my fifth i had written an absolutely heretic phd and submit it, and when my adviser finally got round to reading it, the day before the defense, she decided it wasn't acceptable and wasn't going to let me defend it
pete_dushenski: eh no need to be so modest ;)
saifedean: there are more intellectually stimulating cat pics on the net
saifedean: i really hope none of you waste any time reading this phd...
saifedean: but there's math.. it's rigorous and shit... don't you people value science? don't you care about the children? why does nobody think of the children :/
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to meet the columbia webmaster someday.
mircea_popescu: just that directory structure oozes competence
Adlai: saifedean: there's a fart joke in there somewhere but i fear sharting if i push too hard
saifedean: here's 226 pages of a young man's twenties spent tackling carbon emissions :D
mircea_popescu: <bounce> quick, submit to qntra. arabic bitcoiners hold tea party! << lol good one.
mircea_popescu: please tell the man to stop by!
bounce: quick, submit to qntra. arabic bitcoiners hold tea party!
mircea_popescu: wait. isn't taleb from lebanon ?
mircea_popescu: ha. well... maybe in time then
saifedean: the arabic bitcoin space is basically me and 5 other friends. I met one of them for a tea yesterday and that might be the top news of the month
gribble: herbijudlestoids was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 18 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <herbijudlestoids> anyway, 3am here, just wanted to login and check on yall after i noticed mpex was down. lots of love.
mircea_popescu: Adlai he's the other guy in that convo.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell peterl why didn't scoopbot pick up my last contravex piece?
saifedean: about a year ago i was interviewed on arab news satellite tv on bitcoin, probably the first interview in arabic on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWTyo0sJNCk
Adlai: +mircea_popescu | Adlai herbi has some ideas on this topic. http://trilema.com/2014/no-argument/ << where be herbi?
kakobrekla: arent you in the autoturdposter list?
pete_dushenski: eh forgot to post this from yesterday: http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/07/blogging-as-boundary-finding/
kakobrekla: i give you over 50% of chance to fit here.
saifedean: and to preach bitcoin :D
kakobrekla: not too bad
saifedean: kakobrekla well, in my day job i teach textbook macro and micro economics to undergrads... pays the bills and passes the time while i live in gorgeous lebanon, and also allows me to innoculate them against the textbook garbage
chetty: oo a bonfire? what are we burning? someone at the stake I hope
kakobrekla has the matches
mats_cd03: who has the fuel? lets do this thing.
kakobrekla: saifedean what we do si in the logs, what you do is i dunno, tell us
pete_dushenski: in b-a we mostly share stories, tell jokes, and dream a dream
saifedean: so what do you gentlement do around here? what time are the virgin sacrifices?
thestringpuller: based on the statements first submission are considered for future work. but if the first submission is accepted is there a gpg transfer of IP? (and for a bill/price)?
mircea_popescu: bounce well, the enemy is working the workings to prevent it.
kakobrekla: so much to do so little lifes.
bounce: so did the debian bunch decide to flop or are they staying flipped on the poettering fanclub vote?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla but he's coming from windows. best make this a stages thing.
pete_dushenski: this explains everything i tell you.
pete_dushenski: “In fact, potatoes rate highest on what’s most important to Millennials.”
assbot: The best thinkpiece about millennials and potatoes -- Fusion
mircea_popescu: don't get the recent versions, they're braindamaged.
mircea_popescu: well, these days prolly gentoo. just get their stock install, whatever that may be
thestringpuller: reminds me of Huxley's Brave New World where the kids are allowed to touch each other "exploratively" as they grow up in the nurseries
saifedean: <mircea_popescu> i have two laptops and can do that, but can you recommend a guide to starting with linux?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: like that time when you kissed a girl tho it seemed kinda stupid << how is that ever stupid?
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> this is the point when i must confront the brotherhood with my inadequacies... I still use windows and have no fucking clue what this GPG business is. << seriously, but an old laptop, put linux on it. it's like that time when you kissed a girl tho it seemed kinda stupid.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I clearly shouldn't be allowed to have money...this is what you have caused http://youtu.be/GafOuTf5ntQ xD
bounce: lack that and we're in _why johnny can't encrypt_ territory
thestringpuller: I still use windows << tis good for video games
bounce: that is, for someone used to the CLI and the general crypto geekery weirdness that gnupg is made of