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decimation: the trouble is, chip fabs are expensive as fuck, so there's not much money in keeping old ones alive
decimation: well, this document is 8 years old
kakobrekla: 250nm still in use today?
decimation: can manufacture IC products with technology nodes between 10,000 nanometers (nm) and 250 nm. Approximately half of the companies (22) can make ICs in the United States with technology nodes from 250 nm - 65 nm. A significantly smaller number of firms, six, can make IC products at dimensions below 65 nm, and just three of them have commercial-volume capability for 45 nm and 32 nm dimensions."
decimation: https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/forms-documents/doc_view/73-u-s-integrated-circuit-design-and-fabrication-capability-2009 << "Fabrication companies were asked to report on their fabrication capabilities for the 2003 – 2006 period. The 49 companies that reported data operated more than 90 fabrication facilities in the United States in 2006 that were capable of making conventional IC products. Almost all of these companies (45),
decimation: usg wanting to maintain the last little vestige of us ic-printing is a different thing than usg deciding electronics
decimation: wishful thinking
BingoBoingo: <decimation> if usg can manipulate electronics, why did it allow electronics to flee to china? << US never surrendered all of its foundries. IBM sale is getting a National Security review for a reason
decimation: presumably $bn requires $lawyer to defend it
decimation: eh that's for lawyers to argue
asciilifeform: like those poor yellow voltmeters.
asciilifeform: it'll be interdicted and burned at the border.
decimation: if usg can manipulate electronics, why did it allow electronics to flee to china?
asciilifeform: any country that obeys u.s. patent hegemony - not a market for the product, at least, not above ground.
decimation: eh, I don't buy the omnipresent usg thesis
decimation: but we are talking $bn
decimation: asciilifeform: not quite, if you had the $$ you could get TSMC or whoever to mint one
asciilifeform: unfortunately this cannot be had for any price short of funding its r&d from ore.
asciilifeform: all i really need in terms of hardware - is an fpga which isn't a turd.
decimation: in the mainframe does it was considered quite ordinary to 'spin off' specialized tasks to specialized hardware
assbot: Loper OS » The Hardware Culture, or: What They Build, Works! Can We Say the Same?
BingoBoingo: Actual computer might be worth the space to house it in a shipping container in the yard
asciilifeform: decimation: 'if things go on', it'll resemble the 'clipper chip.'
decimation: nevertheless, once this bitcoin thing does its thing to the financial world, these things will come (the bitcoind chip)
BingoBoingo: What about all of those brave people who unprinted NES chips to get the emulators right?
asciilifeform: 1) book 2) comprehend 3) re-create sanely 4) nice things
decimation: unlike intel, the spec should be published before the turd is made
asciilifeform: well, in this case, the turdependency was... in the kernel.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> where some pissant thing can be 'depended on' and break the world. << the "dependency" system is stupid and should go away.
asciilifeform: meant to be ambiguous
asciilifeform: but 'caviar taste with a pizza face.'
asciilifeform: just as there is demand for a correct 'bitcoind.'
asciilifeform: decimation: there is demand.
decimation: apparently there's no demand, except they sell thousands of gps-derived ntp clocks
decimation: that's good for microseconds, what if you want to have low jitter down to nanoseconds?
asciilifeform: actual orbiter where the timing really matters, won't have a unix box in the loop.
decimation: order of a Cesium oscillator. A PPS signal is derived from the USO and can be disciplined from Earth on rare occasion or from another orbiter via NTP. "
decimation: asciilifeform: there are hints about what is done for 'adult systems': http://doc.ntp.org/4.2.6/drivers/driver22.html "A scenario where the latter behavior can be most useful is a planetary orbiter fleet, for instance in the vicinity of Mars, where contact between orbiters and Earth only one or two times per Sol (Mars day). These orbiters have a precise timing reference based on an Ultra Stable Oscillator (USO) with accuracy in the
asciilifeform: '“I am 95 percent certain that they performed a massive de-anonymization attack on Tor hidden servers and were able to shut down all their targeted servers in the U.S., Europe or anywhere else where U.S. law has meaning,” said Nicholas Weaver, a computer science researcher at the University of California, Berkeley.'
decimation: it's like discovering that the only meat available in the entire world is mcdonalds 'meat' and then realizing that apparently nobody cares
decimation: For instance, the other day I was looking to see if anyone provided specs for the cpu clock
decimation: the thing is, 'better gear' isn't available for any sum
decimation: how does one write an 'adult os' on hardware that randomly isn't responsive?
asciilifeform: decimation: $0.1 micro doesn't have access to video ram to display the 'volume control bar' etc.
decimation: as if this couldn't be done with a $0.1 microcontroller
asciilifeform: decimation: this dates from 486 up.
decimation: the smi thing is similar, depending on what hardware you are using, the bios literally steals cpu to use it to maintain temps, fan speeds, etc
decimation: asciilifeform: really this is about broken hardware
asciilifeform: and each pissant gizmo under the control of a separate human pissant, naturally
asciilifeform: where some pissant thing can be 'depended on' and break the world.
asciilifeform: but individual pieces of garbage aside, i fucking hate the entire ecosystem
asciilifeform: his 'force inclusion' thing broke a number of essentials on my portable (battery monitoring, etc)
decimation: asciilifeform: I learned about the 'tardation of SMI interrupts today
asciilifeform: decimation: short version. as witnessed by what he did - he's one of those bipedal turds who 'fixes' something solely from desire to smear some of himself over surroundings
decimation: This Lv guy writes in something other than English
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> i see our little cant count for shit friend dropped 850mbps of bs on the lawgs << was about 750 on qntra earlier too
mircea_popescu: dude i think kako drunk for like the first time in his life
ben_vulpes: <jurov> mod5, ben_vulpes: i hereby submit a proposal for the foundation's fund to be used for x.idiff marketmaking << lol no but good try
asciilifeform: i'll leave the effect to the future.
assbot: LKML: Lv Zheng: [PATCH v2 7/7] ACPI: Add support to force header inclusion rules for <acpi/acpi.h>.
asciilifeform: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/7/7/2 << death to shitgnomes.
kakobrekla: its nice to know you have real fans.
kakobrekla: i see our little cant count for shit friend dropped 850mbps of bs on the lawgs
kakobrekla: arent you all tor sex pets there
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell sgornick pong.
BingoBoingo thinks kako needs to speak as assbot more often. Every barrel needs a bung.
kakobrekla: at which point is the request routed to show 'seizure image' instead of the intended destination?
assbot: Minor update: The main onion and my totally non-illegal personal onion have both been serving up the seizure image as of a couple hours ago
assbot: Minor update: The main onion and my totally non-illegal personal onion have both been serving up the seizure image as of a couple hours ago
asciilifeform goes back to wurk
mircea_popescu: dawg, just make those cardanos so we can sell em and that's it, let some other unfortunate soul extract himself with bountee. ☟︎
asciilifeform: back to interrupt: did i miss something? someone offered bounty?
asciilifeform: 1 N of thrust - fall down; 2000 N - and escape from prison planet.
kakobrekla: its all world of warcraft swords and hats to you anyway
asciilifeform saw 'bounty', handled interrupt, went back to sleep
mircea_popescu: jurov lol it just means a metal rod you roast on. it's the roasting spit.
jurov: bounty on someone's head, well, i can certainly think of someone
mod6: But I'll be rejecting these outright unless they directly impact, positivly, the development of the reference implementation.
kakobrekla: or in the pit
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the horse could fall in love with the king...
kakobrekla: the king will die, the horse will die.
mod6: jurov: None so far that I know of, other than perhaps a bounty or something for testers as suggested by ben_vulpes.
kakobrekla: that the only certain thing.
asciilifeform: the king could die, the horse could die.
mircea_popescu: well by then you'll be too old to work anyway, so.
kakobrekla: anyway, at this btcusd and current life style, i have 20-30 years to find a real job
mod6: If and when we ever decide to utilize those funds, we'll let you know.
mod6: jurov: My vote is that you simply hold the Foundation's BTC.
kakobrekla: yeah but my somalia is better than your somalia
jurov exposes his dick to mircea_popescu to spit on
BingoBoingo: If BTC goes down too much there's still African Somalia
kakobrekla: idk, something that is reliable and not sucking dicks
mircea_popescu: what's in the barrle ?
jurov helped dad today installing new dishwasher
kakobrekla already got the barrel ready
kakobrekla: .just kinda wondering how much further down it's gonna go xD < not enough for kako to get a real job
mircea_popescu: dude srsly, guy who supposedly had millions in btc was spending his time doing twobitcentscams ?
mircea_popescu: "The NutFund was a charity set up by Blake Benthall as part of his project on the StartUp Bus and using his own BTC, he donated to his own charity. The NutFund.co website has since been abandoned" <<< heh.
asciilifeform: possibly, more than once.