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RagnarDanneskjol: oh yes very interesting indeed - I read it before - always get more
the second
time around.
thank
assbot: The
thorny problem of violence, or
the miracle of
the
talking ass. pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
TheShrander: i'm
trying get some more people here, so
they can understand and not waste money in fucking startups... we will see :D
cazalla: oh, you doing same
thing BingoBoingo ?
cazalla: dignork: a, lol, i see what you mean, it's a
typo in original css, full
text
then:
http://dpaste.com/0D7MGFD <<<
thanks, it's a bit of an improvement for mobile
TheShrander: i'm gonna hold a speech about
the WoT in Italy next month. mircea_popescu we have already
talk weeks ago, i'm wyrdmantis, remember?
gernika: undata Pretty sure
the same
thing happened
to me about 3 years ago.
undata: gernika: when I was 16 I worked for a software company which persuaded staff (myself excluded of course)
to alter
their stock options unfavorably given
that
they subsequently sold out
to HP
gernika: It's hard
to go for more
than a year here without
the company you're working for being sold.
punkman: just
the comments
that followed
mircea_popescu: 12-08-2014 05:29:50 <punkman> I am subjecting myself
to Swanson's book << anything came of
this ?
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 02:45:16; asciilifeform: decimation:
the cure for
this depression is
to understand
that a machine can be built
to be -understood-.
mircea_popescu: generally,
that's
the formative experience of failure. when one's daughters are given away as objects
to
they in
the other system, because even as objects
there
they are still worth more
than were
they
to stay in
their parents' own system, much like infinitely nothing of something is still more
than absolutely all of nothing whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah, but
the idea is for it
to be done for free.
ben_vulpes: at
the risk of point out
the obvious if you can afford
the bundling and
transportation, you could have
them in odessa
mircea_popescu: so orlovs' prediction is
that in
the near future i will be able
to order oligarch underage daughter prostitute
to my hotel room in odessa ?
mircea_popescu: "Some of
the action is bound
to be quite shocking; for instance, while
the elites and
the oligarchs
themselves are rather well defended, at least initially,
their children, ensconced in various elite schools, academies and universities, comprise a soft
target, setting
the stage for school
take-overs, mass kidnappings and shootings of a very different sort from
the ones seen
to date. "
ben_vulpes: gpg --verify should spit out
the author
mod6: mircea_popescu: eh yeah, just making sure i guess,
those wern't posted
to
the mailing list.
assbot: ISPs Removing
Their Customers' Email Encryption | Electronic Frontier Foundation
mod6: asciilifeform: are you
the author of
these patches? : rm_rf_upnp.tar.gz
https-snipsnip.tar.gz turdmeister-alert-snip.tar.gz goodbye-win32.tar.gz ?
mircea_popescu: could also say "they're letting
the women lead much
to
their detriment"
undata: so
the answer in Iran's case is "because an adjacent sovereign is not fit enough
to destroy
them?"
mircea_popescu: the apportioning of penance among
the universally guilty humans,
the
temproal role of
the church,
undata: sure, but
there's a question of degree
there
mircea_popescu: it's like accusing someone of us "rape". do
they have a penis ? well....
undata: I'm not convinced I'm asking
the right question.
undata: maybe
that's just
the nature of it
undata: mircea_popescu: one
that eventually wears out
the
thing underneath, leading
to collapse
undata: mircea_popescu: my question is how a parasitic overclass is avoided if one is
to believe in soverignty and aristocracy?
mircea_popescu: otherwise endlessly spinning
the "simulated loads" of bezzle is a great way
to keep a great engine away from
the road.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't disagree
the brain works. im just saying, it's not working
till it does work.
mircea_popescu: what used
to be fearless warriors are now blind old dependants.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there's a much larger issue
there. iran is mostly ethnially persian.
the leadership, ethnically arab. on
their own,
the arabs are usually poor.
therefore
they depend on govt dole.
undata: but
to ask a different question, how do we end up with authorities who are rational?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is
the engine spinning on
the
test bed a working engine or not ?
undata: Iran
to me is a great example of why strict authoritarian systems do not work
undata: this
topic might help me understand something, if someone wishes
to explain
mircea_popescu: everything else is forever abundant. and so...
they may well wish
to live
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the only
thing ever in deficit in
the world is
the working brain and
the erect penis.
mircea_popescu: there's something afoot with
the dns service worldwide
tho
mircea_popescu: "
There
tends
to be a clean break with
the old, collapsing society, which is motivated by money and prestige within society at large, because
these entrepreneurial groups are motivated by honor and prestige within
the in-group only." << what is
the wot if not exactl;y
that ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, he's involved << wai wat. << does
this need elucidation still ?
mircea_popescu: undata violence is not merely physical violence.
tim swanson got bludgeoned into
the dirt, what is
that if not violence ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno what he meant by it, but what he actually said does allow an interpretation
that actually works, so. benefit of
the doubt.
undata: mircea_popescu: ah I understand; I
took it as "violence start-ups"
mircea_popescu: "the sec wants
to matter,
the sec better get in
the wot". hasn't
turned bloody yet.
mircea_popescu: " And as
the unraveling progresses,
the violent entrepreneurs develop agendas of
their own, which, inevitably, involve having
the cooperation flow
the other way: instead of cooperating with
those formerly in charge,
they demand
that
those formerly in charge start cooperating with
them. And it is here
that
the scene
turns bloody."
mircea_popescu: in a sense, "entrepreneurs of violence" is just a particular facet of sovereignity. orlov was in a room with a sovereign elephant and what he came out with was
the
trunk.
mircea_popescu: i have servers,
too, and as
the ddos rises so do
the servers. simple equation
there.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i always did, but
that is besides
the point anyway.
mircea_popescu: he's not particularly powerful, at least not in any way
the pete's derpy commenter would recognise. but
that's an unrelated matter.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd say i'm
the poster child for orlov's "violent entrepreneurs". it's not
that i make an enterprise of violence, is
that i clearly and pointedly reserve
the right
to use violence without limit.
undata: I am unaware of
their
total capacity
to defend
themselves
undata: but
then again
they could be
the basement full of goods
mircea_popescu: well if
the one you're
thinking of is,
then
the one you;re
thinking of might be, yes.
undata: mircea_popescu:
the one I'm
thinking of is better
termed a distributor
mircea_popescu: if
they weren't worthless
they'd be invovled NOW. since
they aren't now,
they won't later.
mircea_popescu: undata you act as if
this political
thing is a reserve ability all men have.
undata: heavily armed, unfortunately christian, but otherwise seemingly fault
tolerant
undata: mircea_popescu: here in Oregon
there are plenty of farming operations
that I wouldn't be surprised if later
they
take on a more political nature
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform americans aren't a nation. no such for
them.
mircea_popescu: then flush it down
the drain for all it matters, you just want
to meet
the people involved.
undata: they've already shown
they can operate with independence