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asciilifeform: ^ that one.
asciilifeform: in fact, many folks arrived at 'proof of work' and something akin to our current concept of 'blockchain' by attempting to answer the 'who gets to add bits' question.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in short, your complaint is legitimate but the solution unobvious.
BingoBoingo: Fuck, whoever made this scan isn't very good at the whole scanning books business
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i assume you studied some of the known bitcoin predecessors.
mircea_popescu: if not, straight to spam pile.
mircea_popescu: well, the problem ehre is this : immutable datastore comes with the problem of, who may add to it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, there is a lot of overlap between the problem of packing bits and the problems of blockchain and crypto isn;'t there.
asciilifeform: as in, the one you and i read.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the other way.
BingoBoingo: Known sha2 for scans of print text is a very hard problem unless designated agent goes to Paladin press, buys dead trees, and signs hashlists
mircea_popescu: but taking chickens away degrades performance but not storage ?
mircea_popescu: the ideal would be to have a permanent file storage that works by incrementally adding chickens to the task
undata: seems like seeding a trackerless torrent with your thing and a signature of the thing solves this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a different piece, not suvorov
undata will just write said magnet link thing and report back
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i want to link to an actual document. with a known sha2.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and may or may not be the actual scan or a questionable ocr turd
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's a path that leads to a copy, that lives
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the top link is to a torrent which may or may not be alive
mircea_popescu: dat tokenization. anyway, iirc it was on the same place last tiem
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's not a copy
asciilifeform: iirc i posted it once, to a 'file host' thing, but of course long gone.
mircea_popescu: so what's the problem ?
mircea_popescu: the thing linked above ?
asciilifeform: instead of crapping out a 'go find it, it's there somewhere on the net'
asciilifeform: not only this, but it helps to be able to link to a document in a thread.
mircea_popescu: the entire us carrier approach to war is expensive and unwieldy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im not so sure there's that much validity to that demonstration.
asciilifeform: expensive proposition if they have short life expectancy.
asciilifeform: point is not even entirely to host w4r3z - this is not an entirely unsolved problem - but to demonstrate 'fortress.'
undata: of course you could get fancier and do some darknet thing
undata: maybe I'll write that this weekend
undata: asciilifeform: spend magnet links into the blockchain?
thestringpuller: there is to:
thestringpuller: undata: did they remove the from: tag?
asciilifeform: 'they called him rheostat. for the knob he twisted to turn up the current when they ended up in his chair.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at least it didn't get all the way to snotislav or something
BingoBoingo: Micrea is the cleanshaven alternate universe version
mircea_popescu: i like it when hirelings go "hello micrea". on a first name basis with people you don't even know the first name of ? way to fail multiple times per line!
asciilifeform: (an intelligence case officer is a kind of psychiatrist, in the same sense that a sniper is a type of surgeon)
mircea_popescu: or keep tabs.
mircea_popescu: what's the worst that can happen. and nobody reads anyway, and who's going to figure anything out
asciilifeform: very elegantly described in that tome.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most folk get this idea that "they're in control of their own life" and that "they won't have to do anything they don't want to do" and so...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you happen to have a w4r3z link to 'running rings of spies' by 'paladin press', it has some (authenticated and not) case studies.
asciilifeform: (most folks, apparently, feel less 'edgy' re: the idea of muppeting for a small-time intelligence agency, than ru or us)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell hanbot win
mircea_popescu: which year is this ?
BingoBoingo: Why won't people learn to pastebin: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2L0hRICAAAAKSg.png:large
mircea_popescu: i haven't a clue if they mostly do or don't.
asciilifeform: just that it fails on a few basics. for one thing, ru recruiters traditionally false-flag.
asciilifeform: not saying that this is an impossible picture.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck knows, it's a shitty life the junkies, whores and assets lead.
asciilifeform: so one would have to posit some magic-trick in his pocket to explain why he is still around and kicking.
mircea_popescu: if the car worked on an ideal carnot cycle it'd be pretty much fireworks show
mircea_popescu: but this is a technical objection.
asciilifeform: except that if mr. o were so 'open' to volunteers, he'd be grunting in the oubliette with mr. nyc deathray
asciilifeform: moscow: 'we need to park a http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2014#917246 within 10km of 'camp david.'' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: think cc server - rooted box. i'm the rooted box. say something to me!
asciilifeform: i thought the hypothetical was that mr. o is the commander.
mircea_popescu: let's model it properly. you're the kgb special assets chain of command, and i'm orlov.
asciilifeform: unless i dramatically fail to grok how this works, a public blog is very much not the correct tool in the box for this.
asciilifeform: or the like.
asciilifeform: picture the letter: 'dear mr.o, where can i park my mystery crate that certainly does not contain a rocket launcher.'
gernika: Orlov reminds me of detective who has you in the interrogation room. He somehow befriends himself to you and makes you think he wants to help you. He lays out your options. Cooperate and you get life. Otherwise death.
asciilifeform: let's play this 'chess' a few moves in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform specifically, legwork. orlov's blog, is that legwork ?
assbot: 2 results for 'Hal Turner' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Hal+Turner
BingoBoingo: !s Hal Turner
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform again, how do you FIND these guys ?
asciilifeform: so perhaps mircea_popescu was thinking of another.
asciilifeform: rather than 'influence agents'
asciilifeform: the piece concerned folks who were given the job of preparing hidey-holes and providing materiel, however
asciilifeform: 'A portrait of an ideal agent for spetsnaz emerges something like this: a man of between fifty-five and sixty-five years of age who has never served in the army, never had access to secret documents, does not carry or own a weapon, knows nothing about hand-to-hand fighting, does not possess any secret equipment and doesn't support the Comunists, does not read the newspapers, was never in the Soviet Union and ha
gernika: !s typical agent
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-thorny-problem-of-violence-or-the-miracle-of-the-talking-ass/
asciilifeform: in the classic book, you had a fella going up to the junkyard keeper, offering him a bag of benjies 'for almost nothing'
mircea_popescu: do it on reddit ? on twitter ?
mircea_popescu: if you wish to reach those guys, how do you do it ?
asciilifeform: what's the logic here?
asciilifeform: the one with the junkyard, yes
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do you expect to reach him ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform remember that rather accurate depiction of "typical agent" ?
mircea_popescu: it's not quite as simple as all that.
asciilifeform: 'demoralize decadent west.' but why take a contract out on a corpse?
asciilifeform: let's posit paid muppetry. what is the client getting for his money?
mircea_popescu: has he ever linked to rt ?
mircea_popescu: me too.
gernika: I could see him as the "social media" branch of a wider effort that includes RT.
mircea_popescu: either he's an officer, which is weird, but weird is not new in the game ; or else he's just yet another aspiring-talking head, except not working for X company but Y, or else i'm wrong.
mircea_popescu: gernika the kgb does not recruit nobodies for this role.
asciilifeform: iirc that's the one where 'we need a new fleanode'
gernika: Was Orlov paid first, and then he started writing? Or the other way around?
assbot: The problem of enforcement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
RagnarDanneskjol: this is the one i was thinking of http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ - also worth rereading
asciilifeform: 'whore, on account of the equipment' heh.
mircea_popescu: so wait, you COULD be a tailor ? cuz yo usorta like cut stuff now and again ?
asciilifeform: but i give enough of a miniature shit to link mr. o
mircea_popescu: so then, again...why would you get paid ?