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cazalla: it is interesting
they release
the images just as
the g20 starts here in australia
Adlai can never quite
tell
the
two apart, sorta like body/blood and bread/wine
Adlai: or, in
the king's english: MPOE needs
to increase IPOs/¼
decimation: how do
these 'northern route'
theorists discount
the satellite contacts from
the engine control systems?
cazalla: Adlai, i'm up
to date on logs now btw
cazalla: i mean, i see
the angle given governments but still
cazalla: asciilifeform, as much as i appreciate
the
translation (my primary school
teacher died on mh17), it's a bit of a stretch for qntra
to publish it as bitcoin news
decimation: thestringpuller: you want
to ssh
to your wallet?
assbot: Logged on 25-10-2014 03:56:49; asciilifeform:
the correct solution is
that (now unix-only)
turdcoind will listen on a
tty. serial
tty.
Adlai: now
that's an interesting hypothesis
to
test: a bot lurks and
tracks "shortest path"
to each past message,
then records when i link it as opposed
to somebody else links it
to me
Adlai is exponentially more likely
to have read a log entry, according
to
the shortest path from
the present moment back in
time
to
the
target entry, where b-a.com links are weighted roughly
the same as simply reading backwards
cazalla: Adlai, i read
the logs daily, just yet
to finish
today
cazalla: thestringpuller, not up
to date on logs so no idea what
this conversation is about yet
Adlai probably used
the word "article" a little liberally
there
Adlai: while people might not
treat people as interchangeable, dama fortuna does. "shit happens", especially in warzones... is
the revelation in
this article supposed
to be surprising?
Adlai: the article i linked looks just at confirmed
transaction count, which is a narrow metric of all
the stuff happening across
the bitcoin network
Adlai: not specifically relating
to mpoe, more for possible next steps for analyzing bitcoin network activity metrics
Adlai: that, and block reward (fee amount, as opposed
to fee count)
ben_vulpes: Adlai: bitcoin days destroyed is a good correlation
to check
too
assbot: Neighbourhood Pool Watch: Daily and weekly bitcoin
transaction cycles
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 02:49:52; mircea_popescu: Adlai afaik
there was never in
the entire history of bitcoin proposed some sort of credible / evidenced based interepretation of wtf it does.
mircea_popescu: you know, jurov is actually a very
talented historian.
mircea_popescu: "Despite being drowned in graceful donations and membership fees,
they just keep piling new and new code without proper specification and proper
testing, making mistakes or even forks inevitable and
thus providing cover for abominable interests."
ben_vulpes: they are paying,
the bill just isn't due yet.
mircea_popescu: much like strippers and whores pay for
their place of work, don't get paid by
the landlord.
mircea_popescu: like, gavin et all, should pay a daily fee
to be allowed into
the amusement park where
they pretend like
they matter
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
the sort of "programmers"
that "add features" should actually be charged
to go
to work.
Adlai: dime a doze sounds closer
to reality
ben_vulpes: yet somehow programmers are supposed
to be a dime a doze?
mircea_popescu: Adlai
this, because industry is increasingly a piece of shit.
Adlai: people aren't interchangeable, but shoes (and artifacts of
their ilk) are increasingly produced and repaired in an interchangeable manner
mircea_popescu: there isn't some sort of "us"
that could just as well be a standin for any of us.
mircea_popescu: Adlai:
this roman doesn't seem
to care much for his friends' feet. perhaps
the shoe's pinch points would bother
them
too, if
they were
to walk long enough in
the same shoes? <<< you know your crowd-* obsession is at some level based on
the fundamentally evil notion
that people are interchangeable.
ben_vulpes: for
the first
time ever my mpoe holdings are underwater
mircea_popescu: Adlai afaik
there was never in
the entire history of bitcoin proposed some sort of credible / evidenced based interepretation of wtf it does.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: mpoe is a goddamn mystery
to me, Adlai.
ben_vulpes: Adlai: if anything, i'd have expected a surge as
those who held mpoe bought more
to balance
their crypto holdings while accumulating more btc
Adlai: note
that i'm asking less "why did mpoe drop" and more "what evidence supports a correlation as
the explanation for
the
temporal coincidence?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: except! in
the case of
the 1990s alt.tasteless 'golden
turd award.' <<< anything good in
there ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu will bang on about
that at will
Adlai: so, why would
they need
to dump mpoe
to boost btc?
ben_vulpes: there is
this sneaky
theory
that btc price is driven by mpoe holders
PeterL: and no way
to
transport out, no oil pipes
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 391.71, Best ask: 391.72, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last
trade: 391.65, 24 hour volume: 20570.65837348, 24 hour low: 382.95, 24 hour high: 415.0, 24 hour vwap: 396.974151246
ben_vulpes: wasn't
the last major mpoe action a big rally during
the big btc rally?
mircea_popescu: undata you don't understand. siberia is a huge space, full of minerals
they can't access because ice.
assbot: Last
trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00043346 BTC [+]
assbot: The eagle never lost so much
time as when he submitted
to learn from
the crow.
assbot: It says some pelt-wearin'
trapper, some stinkin' bean-suckin' possum skinner, he's gonna collect
that reward money.
Adlai: any
theories on reasons for
the
temporal hint of correlation between btcfiat and s.mpoe?
PeterL: doesn't russia pretty much have as much oil as
they want right now anyway? why do
they need an excuse
to grab more?
mircea_popescu: <undata> if I were russia, I'd wait for
the US
to go balls deep into
the middle east again, and
then I'd grab some of
the north pole's oil, <<< obviously, you're not russia.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> anyone else find it mildly interesting
that
the last 5 chars in deed ID of jurov's signed
treasurer's contract are "urovj"? << it's in
the logs.
undata: and I'd most certainly
try
to help stir up whatever particular brand of shit
the americans can't resist in
the middle east
undata: if I were russia, I'd wait for
the US
to go balls deep into
the middle east again, and
then I'd grab some of
the north pole's oil, and whatever I wanted in eastern ukraine, at least
undata: only
this
time Syria must go as well
undata: meanwhile, related:
they're starting
to bang
the Iraq war drum here, again
undata: seems like
the US and Russia are gradually building support for a very large war
undata: asciilifeform:
the usgov can
tag its own pentagon with a missile in broad daylight
undata: these events serve as fine propaganda
tools no matter what for both sides
Adlai: it's considerably shorter
than
the usual legalese, but just for starters,
they could have separate
terms for all
the paid cruft, and leave
the free service simple
undata: asciilifeform:
the strange
thing
to me: it doesn't matter at all what actually happened
nubbins`: anyone else find it mildly interesting
that
the last 5 chars in deed ID of jurov's signed
treasurer's contract are "urovj"?
undata: asciilifeform: because unintentionally
they're undermining
their own existence by existing in
the first place
undata: mircea_popescu: regarding
the NSA conspiracy, it's amusing, but doesn't seem likely
that
they'd undermine fiat intentionaly
ben_vulpes: bitcoin is
the coin
that changed
the world but
that doesn't mean
the first
try doesn't sink in heavy storms
ben_vulpes: leather over wood prehistoric
thinger?
mircea_popescu: now if i only had a link
to where it was put
to rest,
to pass along
to undata
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: undata:
this comes up here at least once a month, and i regret
to say
that it is mostly my own fault. <<<
that it has a good response is mostly your fault.
that it appears... it'd have appeared anyway.
mircea_popescu: should be interestinf
to see if sleep actually resolves [part of] memory leakage