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asciilifeform: ( was there for ~4hrs, very relaxy spot. ~no other folx. )
asciilifeform: i went to a zoo. there was ONE other visitor, a brit.
asciilifeform: ( in bucharest there's a microshit bldg, where they keep amstan 's . but that's afaik more or less it ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ah that
BingoBoingo: Well, they had the whole communism thing where mircea_popescu got a silver spoon and everyone else payola
asciilifeform: out of what, would they.
BingoBoingo: I thought they uninvented it
asciilifeform: ( just like in ru -- 'refugees' only went to ru while finland border were open )
asciilifeform: they haven't invented payola there yet.
BingoBoingo: And what happens when the somali syrian refugees walk there?
asciilifeform: beautifully depopulated , too, 0 crowds, 0 queues. sorta like a hypothetical bunenos aires after redditbagging complete.
asciilifeform: ( perhaps if one tried to set up there, would find out.. )
asciilifeform: whatever pantsuitocalypse had killed it in mircea_popescu's eyes, was not detectable to my instruments.
asciilifeform: i dun think i in entire life saw bldgs as sweet as the ones in timis.
asciilifeform: ( what the 'catch' is , iirc was discussed in the l0gz )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 00:02 asciilifeform: other typical items : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_factory.jpg
asciilifeform: amberglint: gc without tagged words is a lol
BingoBoingo: Well, gotta talk em down
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: then it's straight miami 'I AM WORTH!' delusionism, i guess
BingoBoingo: IVA's the bitch
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i bet they get tax writeoff for 'not sold or rented it this yr, just like last 20 yrs' like ameritards get << Well property taxes here like income taxes are relatively low.
amberglint: asciilifeform: someone at UC Berkeley tried to suck grantolade by welding hardware GC to RISC-V: https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~maas/papers/maas-asbd16-hwgc.pdf
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and that's a washington price. these people have fucked heads. << Well, how many dindus does Washington have vs how many Montevideo has
asciilifeform: i bet they get tax writeoff for 'not sold or rented it this yr, just like last 20 yrs' like ameritards get
BingoBoingo: Inside prolly trashed
asciilifeform: and that's a washington price. these people have fucked heads.
asciilifeform: prolly trashed ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw we definitely walked past that.
BingoBoingo: Short walk (other side of front door) to the feria https://inmueble.mercadolibre.com.uy/MLU-457798235-en-cordon-_JM
asciilifeform: or those horrid 3 variant of thorn the arabs have.
asciilifeform: sorta how the hindu glottal 'd' isn't to us.
asciilifeform: it aint phonemic to'em.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently not. Not in the sense spanish has two of them.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they aint got a 'r'.
asciilifeform: by the time someone reverses, they change it, and force the idjit users to 'upgrade' ☟︎
asciilifeform: it's a moving target, elementarily
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but we currently have 0 penetration into cn, so i've nothing to add to this yet << Chinese tend to have more trouble with the letter "rr" than I do
amberglint: has anyone tried to reverse-engineer Cadence shit? ☟︎
asciilifeform: i , for instance, dun have with what to launch car into mars. mircea_popescu -- has with what, but is smart enuff not to.
asciilifeform: there's arguably 2 separate problems at hand : 1) how to bake an ic such that it's an actual economic proposition, rather than resembling that car e. musk launched to mars 2) to get it done by someone other than malicious winshit-idiots . both -- currently open problems.
asciilifeform: but we currently have 0 penetration into cn, so i've nothing to add to this yet
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu's hypothesis was that the whole thing is an 'idiot tax' for people who don't know how to get'em made in cn
asciilifeform not tried, and not about to pay 1000 $ ea. for ~unpackaged~ may-or-may-not-work dies
amberglint: at least they eat input from Magic CAD without NDA crap?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-25 05:14 asciilifeform: there's a coupla 'small scale' fabs, but on close examination smell like ripoff, they ship with literally 0 guarantee of yield , and in laughable qty , and with laughable transistor count, and -- to add insult to injury -- die packaging not included, you gotta somehow find someone to do it, somewhere
asciilifeform: + they charge weight in diamonds, per die.
asciilifeform: approx same thing.
amberglint: what about this? https://www.mosis.com/pages/design/flows/design-flow-scmos-kits
asciilifeform: ( at 'modern' micronicities, fab process is no longer standard but custom to the chem, and entirely diff at each fab house. hence the proprietary tooling crapolade. )
asciilifeform: concern appears to be 'But Our Seekrit Process Chem!1111'
asciilifeform: pcb fabs, much more pedestrian affair, are run sanely, they eat PNGs and text file of coords/rotations for placer robot.
asciilifeform: whole biz is rotten from head to feet.
asciilifeform: last yr ( and before ) i talked to a coupla ic fabs, in various countries. they all not only run winshit but demand that you use their 'standard cells', which available (surprise?) under nda
asciilifeform: indeed they do
asciilifeform: why not ask why mcst makes pentium clone. to run winblowz on.
amberglint: I wonder why do they even bother with this junk
asciilifeform: intel is rubbish, but at least i can go to junkyard and get it.
asciilifeform: as it is, they've copied ALL of the ameri-idiocies, incl. 'closed errything'
asciilifeform: wake me up when they make a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-23#1865375 , + open docs like http://nosuchlabs.com/hardware.html ☝︎
asciilifeform: well i dun work there , lol , so cannot say whether he does or no. but still funny.
asciilifeform: i dun think any plebe has laid hands on the thing or ever will
amberglint: he also tries to sell it as a GTA and Doom machine
amberglint: do you know that Elbrus has a youtube channel for some reason? it's pretty strange: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6pnRoVljXKpo5bgkVyQMJg
asciilifeform: some meathead minister signed off on it, and guesswat, it's Official textbook nao! in some shithole
asciilifeform: i have a b00k like that here, 'учебное пособие по криптографии' somthing or other. which fails to contain rsa.
asciilifeform: they seem to be heavily fucked in the head. ☟︎
asciilifeform: what the fuck is wrong with these people.
asciilifeform: pretty odd thing, has bus timings etc but indeed no instr set.
asciilifeform: ( then they went and ~licensed~ american mips. and i stopped wanting to buy. i can buy mips already )
amberglint: oddly enough, there's a university textbook on Elbrus, no instruction set there either: http://www.mcst.ru/doc/book_121130.pdf
asciilifeform: i've been trying to buy a 'loongson' for 5+yrs nao.
asciilifeform: none of the chinese archs, interestingly, available commercially either
amberglint: the Chinese apparently borrowed Alpha for their homegrown arch
asciilifeform quite fond of alpha, the architecture book was ~thin~ ☟︎
amberglint: asciilifeform: never heard of the limousine, but I know that C# was made by Delphi people
asciilifeform: famously sent limousine to pick them ALL up on same evening
amberglint: the lead designer of the VLIW Elbrus was later hired away by Intel
asciilifeform: same reason the video card crapolas are closed source
amberglint: someone found the compiler for it though: https://www.linux.org.ru/forum/talks/14502270
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform and then mircea_popescu variously attempted to buy , 0 to show for it )
amberglint: I've tried to obtain any docs for the VLIW thing, but it's under NDA for some reason ☟︎
asciilifeform: neither seems to exist on commercial markets anywhere
amberglint: really? afaik it's a VLIW that has nothing to do with SPARC
asciilifeform: and they fab photoclones of ameri-crud.
amberglint: AMD fab was gathering dust for ~7 years before it was recently put to any use
amberglint: that too
asciilifeform: rents now. taiwan.
asciilifeform: managerial decision, some time circa 1978. we had thread here. old fart proclaimed 'use warez from usa, why pay software dev'
amberglint: why the hell Soviets were so hell-bent on not doing anything original ☟︎
asciilifeform: amberglint: also familiar. it went to same place as all the non-pdpclone su stuff.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> sounds approx as appealing as krokodil << Use is pretty much exclusive to pichis and children
amberglint: and the end of the paper mentions a Soviet Lisp machine
asciilifeform: was last-days thing
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 00:35 asciilifeform: 'Before leaving this subject, I should mention that there have been a number of interesting LISP Machine designs done outside the U.S., particularly in Japan. For example, see [Hayashi]' << asciilifeform once spent coupla months trying to dig up these. and europistan's 'racal norsk' also. found ~0.
amberglint: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1876938 << there was also a Soviet Refal machine: http://www.keldysh.ru/papers/2003/source/prep2003_99.doc ☝︎
amberglint: BingoBoingo: I was about to up myself, but thanks :)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'ma bet the 3k u.s. hole in wall comes with 30k of debt tho. otherwise who would it be in them cardboard boxes. << Pasta base is reportely a hell of a drug and it is not a free drug
asciilifeform: i'ma bet the 3k u.s. hole in wall comes with 30k of debt tho. otherwise who would it be in them cardboard boxes.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> so why 'squatter law' then << Because there are hole in walls that don't have addresses, quite a few near feria zone. Occupy, sign up for a power connection, and get an address.
asciilifeform: waltz the peru chick on that pnoje repair counter