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mircea_popescu: "do you mean the window made the seat or it allowed the seat ? by as in by picasso or as in by god ?"
jurov: as in, directly from udder?
mircea_popescu: on consideration, it's actually possible https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/458738254284468224/5L51itmv_400x400.jpeg doesn't realise her self-tagging as "belle" is at best ironic.
assbot: KTVA reporter quits on-air, reveals herself as owner of Alaska Cannabis Club - YouTube
kakobrekla: nubbins` imma have to open it as my mom wants one
kakobrekla: actually i decided mid-unwrapping that im going to leave it packaged as it came.
mircea_popescu: herpy-derp. as if it's avoidable. in a totalitarian regime the state takes control, of everything. until it all goes to shit in a monolithic piece.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is like its sister, "how the hedge fund masquerading as a 'research' university can take control of the professor/researcher"
BingoBoingo: "For example, make physicians increasingly dependent on complex systems outside their domain of expertise, such as information technology and coding and billing software. Ensure that such systems are very costly, so that solo practitioners and small groups, who naturally cannot afford them, must turn to the hospital. And augment their sense of incompetence by making such systems user-unfriendly and unreliable. Where possible, chan
thestringpuller: not everyone is as creative as you nubbins`
nubbins`: applied as an onion skin over a convoluted permissions-based content management system
xmj: please accept that computer systems in this century have as much legitimacy as water systems in the last.
ben_vulpes: natural gas as well, for the localized heating of crank-turners.
mircea_popescu: as far as that goss, they follow the nature channel and advertising for chrissakes.
bounce: (which is of course the embodiment of the white man's evil nature that needs urgent atonement, and nevermind that the scary brown people down in africa practiced it just as much if not more... and to an extent still do)
mircea_popescu: they kept derping about this in the eu. as i left romanian, proper lightbulbs were still on sale.
xmj: as i said
asciilifeform: i want 'targeted' ads every bit as much as roaches want 'targeted' roach spray.
mats_cd03: reminds me of some charter schools i had interacted with as a little one. no more grades, nobody can fail, everyone's a winner.
asciilifeform: gauss actually is interesting to mention here, given as he made many 'leaps of intuition' - most of them, into neverneverland. he knew this, even, and so refrained from publishing most of his work
asciilifeform agrees in principle with mircea_popescu. but only gets to eat by 'turning correct screw' because of a set of personal connections which, as usual, aren't portable.
mircea_popescu: since we're talking security, as in, false subjective sense of, here's an excellent read on the topic :L http://braythwayt.com/homoiconic/2013/12/28/why-you-need-a-degree-to-work-for-bigco.html
mircea_popescu: "here's a lithmus test on "good ideas": if it were applied to you, would you still think it's a good idea? in other words: if you can't imagine yourself as the vendor, maybe it's time to drop the good idea stuff, too?"
mircea_popescu: just as long as you had someone to serve for you, all is well.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the us is a different system. it doesn't have mega natural wealth to prop itself, so it works as a "buffettlying to prevent the children of the middleclass pushing him out" system
mircea_popescu: the cleanest way to represent the legal tradition, as well as the legal implementation of that tradition in any extant sovereign of the fiat, geographical, obsolete kind,
mircea_popescu: "You can’t simply ask someone if they have no intention of buying a Macintosh. Everybody lies, especially to salespeople." << the funny thing in there is, people generally despise SALESMEN for being lying scumbags. but, in fact, people lie to them as an article of faith, and in sheer volume necessarily exceed anything the salesman could push out.
bounce: to the point that as soon as the mouse threatens to go out of copyright, copyright gets extended
mircea_popescu: well either as it works out lol
bounce: (says me, having studiously avoided both for the last couple of years, as much as possible anyway)
asciilifeform: afaik these started out as banal 'communal workshop' arrangements
decimation: it seems the hype for those things outstrips the actual usefulness - usefulness defined as meeting actual people working on interesting ideas
decimation: as I recall the fbi headquarters is a block away from the theater where lincoln was murdered
decimation: I wonder how those fbi employees feel about being seen as meat for consumption by the local political elite
mircea_popescu: that thing. looks as derpy as you'd expect
mircea_popescu: ah, as far as i know real estate
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'On January 31, 2009, Bauman reported that ZVUE fired him and the rest of the staff and replaced them with a new team. Furthermore, Bauman claimed ZVUE are falsely using his name in connection with new material, making it look as if Bauman is still employed...' (pediwikia)
ben_vulpes: but i, spice racks, and with hand tools as this hovel has no machine shop.
ben_vulpes: not really articulating clearly, as i've been fabricating all day as well.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: picked on you given as you're the only actual machinist i'm even distantly familiar with
mircea_popescu: no but as a general point
assbot: "Dropshadows lift the type off the page as if they are 3D. You probably don't even know how to do them."
ben_vulpes: same as before .0075
asciilifeform: it works so long as 'don't play' is a valid move.
asciilifeform: point here is that a 'rational tower' is one where no information is lost as a result of this operation.
asciilifeform: as in, answers take the form one '1 / 2' rather than 0.500000
asciilifeform: just as in, for example, common lisp.
asciilifeform: on a proper computer, e.g., 'quicksort' or 'newton-raphson method' are distinct entities. and there are no 'programs' as such, only a graph of circuit linkages.
mircea_popescu: i sometimes wonder how computing would work if linux weren't built on "packages" as implemented, but on actual functions
asciilifeform: this relates directly to certain circles seen as 'prickly'
mircea_popescu: proponents of such tailored "knowledge" will understandably fight tooth and nail with some classes of rational approach, such as the people who use the counterexample effectually (aka, trolls)
mircea_popescu: decimation it's worse than that! consider : you could pick arbitrary assumptions and arbitrary data sets so as to theoretically and practically justify a particular theory sufficiently so that it gives the desired results for a FINITE time interval, calculated to exceed the probable testing period.
mircea_popescu: important to remember that his declarative statements are powerless to influence reality, and as much as he'd like to live in a world where there's no incentive for me to stay honest,
mircea_popescu: and if you conform by doing the "since they call me a thief anyway might as well", you are actually giving away that much power.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'antisocial' in this case is same kind of 'antisocial' as, e.g., mathematicians who won't ask to learn from redditors how to do topology 'correctly according to the kommyoonity!'
mircea_popescu: they're not redirects. in fact, linked traffic has always been 10% or less, as far as trilema is concerned.
mircea_popescu: decimation i'd see it as search not as direct. meanwhile search incoming is dominated by keywords like "true"
moriarty: mircea_popescu, as russia is finding out as a result of ukraine
moriarty: mircea_popescu, economic aggression can be just as painful
moriarty: china has to deceive russia into thinking it is using some old aircraft carrier as museum showpiece
moriarty: and as of this moment, they are being led by a pussyfoot for a president
asciilifeform: perhaps ru subs are already in glasgow. without having to also keep scots as pets.
decimation: russia would love to shower scotland with bezzlars so he could use them as a wedge to split the eu
mircea_popescu: but as such he exists because new york, not because lincoln, nebraska.
mircea_popescu: decimation really it started during the renaissance, as an attempt to bite the fruit of life fully.
xmj: with democracy you (as temporary ruler) have no incentive to make your young boys/girls look good.
decimation: in the middle ages, the local barons would think of themselves as personally responsible to nurture the talent of the local intelligent young boys
xmj: as to the rest, no idea
xmj: moriarty: now comes your neoreactionary and inquires "if western europeans built such beautiful institutions such as states that actually hold together over centuries, industries, absolute nuclear family that favors outbreeding, and an army that could literally dominate the entire world..."
mircea_popescu: moriarty it would work as a wot system, and as that only.
mircea_popescu: proceeds to act as if the static image he perceived, more or less blurry, is made out of diamond.
asciilifeform: academic used to be an actual animal, extinct around same time as 'passenger pigeon'
asciilifeform: moriarty: in point of fact, given correct hardware design ('dataflow' machine) neither compilers nor 'parallelism' as conventionally understood - are necessary concepts at all.
moriarty: the very basics of comparative languages as one of the electives or course modules in CS will inform anyone that the history of language development was in response to advances in hardware, but at the same time, paradigms from ages before still come into play today at various points in the hardware spectrum, if no longer on your desktop, then at least on your mobile devices which are
moriarty: you may act individually, but your response to feedback from the market constraints that individuality, and as a whole, the market acts very mechanistically, well, if you can pin it down of course
moriarty: think crowd behaviour as they exit a museum
moriarty: i've used Lisp and like it as well
asciilifeform: both of these are quite their own animals, and most users would make a face if you called it 'a lisp' - but they are as much 'a lisp' as newton and leibniz both had the 'calculus.'
moriarty: asciilifeform, fair enough, still if you've formally undertaken AI as a major, that's something
decimation: moriarty: didn't you perceive this as a problem, given your previous point about mixing crap with the good?
moriarty: xmj, sure, but let's not discount formal education also as the path to avoid mistakes made by saner individuals in the past
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2014 02:07:49; asciilifeform: (lw is another reddit clone that makes hn, etc. look sane. inhabited by folks terrified of robo-apocalypse. i was drummed out of lw as a 'future genocidal criminal' for... considering resurrecting doug lenat's 'eurisko.')
moriarty: xmj, what i'm saying is, it's impossible to legislate every aspect of society to make it as idiotproof as possible
xmj: decimation: you know what you could do as well?
moriarty: it's one of the pernicious problems of mob rule, it converges to a state that pleases the majority, even if the minority in this case happens to be the ones that make more than half of the GDP and contribute tax-wise as well
mircea_popescu: no. what becomes plain as day is how to interact with the few women nobody can be bothered with, and how to miss out on the value in the set.
moriarty: mircea_popescu, buying them items in hopes to get in their pants would not be very successful, as xmj attested
moriarty: mircea_popescu, all i'm saying is, once you understand women to be a bag of emotions, rather than logical creatures, their motivations, what it takes to motivate them, becomes plain as day
mircea_popescu: the whole theory is broken. there's no "other plane", and there's no "women" as a one thing.
moriarty: decimation, well, unfortunately as someone who is partial to the ancap way of looking at things, i don't identify with the reframing of couch-sitters as slaves of the state, i see them as enslaving the state though
mircea_popescu: it's not particularly hard, either, just as long as you comprehend that the "differnet plane" bs is bs, and that there's more variety between different women than between women and men.
moriarty: xmj, men are shallow by nature, our emotions do not run as deeply as women (unless we grew up on a heavy dose of sappy films)
mircea_popescu: understood as what ?
danielpbarron: most of the ancaps I encounter seem to lean more towards the socialist side than they'd like to admit -- what with all their "fairness for all" mantra, as if unrestrained capitalism won't deal a crushing blow to the dregs of society
moriarty: xmj, i agree, intelligence, beauty, the things that ultimately lead us to do what we want to do through meaningful employment, have lots of meaningless sex with as many beautiful people as possible
xmj: signal of intelligence, as education is more costly for the less-intelligent
moriarty: not that i'm griping about connections and such :P the way i see it, we inherit genes as we do connections
mircea_popescu: it's just that the parent may not whine as audibly as the child. but you can't rule by whining
moriarty: mircea_popescu, it does not affect the parent as negatively as the offspring, particularly if the parent is not emotionally vulnerable to its offspring :)
moriarty: mircea_popescu, i guess in a way you could say singapore is being "kinder" by telling you upfront that if you take that course, your employment chances will be fucked, so let's help make this idiot-proof as possible by barring you from choosing that road