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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 20:14:25 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935281 << bvt, would you be able to produce the vpatch? I would, but a) my knowledge of tcp stack / kernels / etc. is pretty much nil and b) I'm gearing up to focus 100% on mircea_popescu's latest mp-wp bot ask if I end up winning this auction.
bvt: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935294 << i'll have a look into this problem. this month i'm a bit tight on time for republican work, and already have work in schedule, so i can't promise any deadline, unfortunately.
BingoBoingo: The whole "governments balancing their budgets on weed tax revenue" seems a lot like the F-35 steath dilema. As soon as the users can smoke openly there's not much other than their own sloth to keep them from producing. Then supply glut, prices go to the basement, and the gangs find another drug to traffic.
BingoBoingo: Probably more exhaust gas there than here. Kids smoke in front of the mall. They rarely seem to smoke in most of the parks lest the campers ask for a hit to surely be followed by intensifed requests for "una moneda para comer algo"
BingoBoingo: Never mind that by volume peat moss and perlite which make a superior potting mix together are cheaper than the dubiously branded and mostly uncomposted wood fiber labeled as "Kellog's garden soil"
BingoBoingo: A good tip off is if they fill their truck up repeatedly with "Kellog's garden soil" on Black Friday.
BingoBoingo: 7 million people and only a couple dozen licenses with official 6 figure USD price tags. No grow at home without a special medical permit. But with FATCA, KYC/AML/OMGWTFBBQ the whole bribery thing in a place that has seen consecutive governors go to jail... Surely it's under control...
BingoBoingo: lobbes: They did, it isn't implemented yet, and it's already looking like a scammy ball of lulz.
lobbes: I'm willing to patch one or the other (should be a quick fix). Now... the question is which one? The converter, the raw-dumper, or should the eat_dump.py be able to handle BOTH formats?
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935134 << interesting. Looks like it is incorrect in the database itself. So something is either happening on bot snarf side, or on import of dumps side. In any case, bot will be offline for a second while I bring it up in a test channel
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 22:43:49 trinque: heh, this place needs a cartoonist so bad
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 17:22:25 asciilifeform: i still dun grasp why os's tcp stack doesn't liquidate a socket known to be stone dead. but this i suppose is a q for the original perpetrators , when they're connected to 220v
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935281 << bvt, would you be able to produce the vpatch? I would, but a) my knowledge of tcp stack / kernels / etc. is pretty much nil and b) I'm gearing up to focus 100% on mircea_popescu's latest mp-wp bot ask if I end up winning this auction.
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935178 << you are among the very few who pronounce it correctly then! Most assume it is Spanish and pronounce the end bit like the end of "Rodriguez" (actually, it was a good way to screen for telemarketers back when I answered unknown phone numbers)
lobbes: err, meant to prepend above line with a " mircea_popescu: "
mircea_popescu: prolly because they don't know how to do that without creating a race condition with the time-outs involved in knowing it's stone dead.
asciilifeform: i still dun grasp why os's tcp stack doesn't liquidate a socket known to be stone dead. but this i suppose is a q for the original perpetrators , when they're connected to 220v
asciilifeform: also wtf, 'double connect on same socket', why the everliving fuck is this even a thing.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i actually dun know when/how precisely the fella tuned in. but will hazard a guess that it was because he had spark of 'hmm, these folx have working gears'. so i suspect best result with him might be to pour some kerosene on that fire. 'motivation from interest' is 9000x bigger fire than 'motivation from needs-to'.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 15:37:48 asciilifeform: meanwhile asciilifeform attempts to teach a short vtronics lecture in diana_coman's school while diana_coman slept .
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935258 - thank you! not at all a bad thing to have happening while I'm away, lol.
asciilifeform: meanwhile asciilifeform attempts to teach a short vtronics lecture in diana_coman's school while diana_coman slept .
diana_coman: asciilifeform: they have a Why Python 2.8 post if you care.
asciilifeform: ( for what are needed these 'new syntax, ...' -- aside from 'embrace & extinguish'(tm) -- remains a mystery to asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'wildmen attempt to tmsr' strange : 'Tauthon is a backwards-compatible fork of the Python 2.7.16 interpreter with new syntax, builtins, and libraries backported from Python 3.x. Python code and C-extensions targeting Python 2.7 or below are expected to run unmodified on Tauthon and produce the same output.'
asciilifeform: this algo does require a > 0 'the rest' tho.
mircea_popescu: i hope to god they were just about to take a large bite out of a steel girder at high speed.
mircea_popescu: can stretch that "any minuite" cheese into two fucking years, and whenever you put a limti o nit, "oh, you fucked them up, they were just about to"
mircea_popescu deeply regrets having spent the earlier 2010s in a "oh, stallman, famous"
asciilifeform: ( or is this a 'vina batranilor' thing ? )
asciilifeform: i'ma be quite surprised the day a 90yo d00d joins the wot
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 05:25:00 mircea_popescu: all sorta chuck moores, "famous" and apparently ever so good and useful, just WAITING for you to give them a chance to strangle you.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935131 << for what in '17 ? for writing a working logger ? next, wat, will kick out trinque , so can have 'flurry of exciting, new development' of deedbot ?!
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935124 << dunno re the other folx , but mine is set to 'lotto' atm, it uses fleanode's rotator. which is arguably unseemly, but i dun have a 'list of working fleanodes' atm. would like to obtain one. hence 'let's log ip'
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935119 << this is a deeper africanism than mircea_popescu suspects , and sadly not even limited to pythonisms. it comes from when hands grow out of arses, and folx write libs where the namespaces cannot be mixed, so yer stuck lib_a.foo lib_b.foo , cuz can't import a + b . seen it in adaisms , cl, elsewhere.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 03:56:22 ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:01:18 mircea_popescu;thinks: asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 03:56:22 ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:01:18 mircea_popescu;thinks: asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-09#1935134 << I'll take a gander into that weird. Ty for the heads up
mircea_popescu: well there's a * deedbot gives voice to nicoleci you prolly msiread as "removes voice" ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: iirc this has been noted before/it's been around for quite a while, yes (though I thought it was fixed at some point); but I don't think she self-voiced at all.
nicoleci: diana_coman, currently im having issues accessing the shell. this may be a BingoBoingo question. i'll provide a better answer as to which step im stuck on when i get inside.
mircea_popescu: o she did a new transcription ?
mircea_popescu: all sorta chuck moores, "famous" and apparently ever so good and useful, just WAITING for you to give them a chance to strangle you.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 03:56:22 ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:01:18 mircea_popescu;thinks: asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-09 03:56:22 ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:01:18 mircea_popescu;thinks: asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's "in all my driving i never had to back up, so... never put a reverse setting for the gearbox in"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:01:18 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-07 09:01:18 mircea_popescu;thinks: asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 05:16:52 mircea_popescu: thinks asciilifeform should also get something ; though it's unclear how exactly to figure this out. but -- lacking a better idea, i guess he can have 10% of the winning bid in royalties and we see.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 04:57:27 mircea_popescu: so : who would like to do a spot of work for hire for me ? the ideea is to write and publish as a vpatch a stan logbot extension which a) processes search, through talking to a [presumably present] mysql server, and spitting out the results (formatted as in http://trilema.com/2019/
lobbes: roger that. I'll take a dive into the code and see if I can figure out the socket related bits
lobbes: very odd that just that bot had a netsplit and no one else
mircea_popescu: auctionbot starting to get a list huh!
mircea_popescu: what, no thousands upon thousands of words in a deluge, transforming a pleasant morning into a mad rush to ingest novel after referenced novel ?! just eat like normal people, looking out the window ?!
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/a-catagraphy-or-the-remains-of-a-bathroom/ << Trilema -- A catagraphy, or the remains of a bathroom
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-08 00:57:48 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934939 << i tried 3 terminals, none rendered this, had to boot a crapple, lol
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 18:19:52 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934492 - asciilifeform , as far as I see, there's a bug at setting the time_last_conn at a reconnection, hence the wrong result of uptime; irc() method is missing the "global time_last_conn" when it sets the value so the set is lost.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 16:56:13 trinque: I'd have to stress test the thing to say, but response time over here is about a half second. ignoring parallelism 172800 req per day (assuming pastes expire after 24hr)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:34:07 mircea_popescu: oh, and is this a search bug, btw ?
lobbes: if not, I have no issue with making a vpatch for the various fixes in that guide
asciilifeform: lobbes: otherwise a+++ cookbook, ty for writing.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 18:19:52 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934492 - asciilifeform , as far as I see, there's a bug at setting the time_last_conn at a reconnection, hence the wrong result of uptime; irc() method is missing the "global time_last_conn" when it sets the value so the set is lost.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934939 << i tried 3 terminals, none rendered this, had to boot a crapple, lol
lobbes: I'm off to eat some food, then make a "standing up a logotron" guide from compiled notes
lobbes: (ftr, the cause of my apache access logs not functioning was indeed that I nuked a module in my attempts to get proxying working. Specifically, I nuked the "mod_log_config" and "mod_logio".. oy)
diana_coman: as to *what* caused the reconnect, I can't say I know exactly: the bot's log duly reports a "listen socket error, disconnecting", followed by the expected reconnect but I can't see / don't know where to look, possibly for anything more informative.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934492 - asciilifeform , as far as I see, there's a bug at setting the time_last_conn at a reconnection, hence the wrong result of uptime; irc() method is missing the "global time_last_conn" when it sets the value so the set is lost.
trinque: > Purges pastes older than a week every twenty four hours.
lobbes: iirc previous paste-o-tron expired 'em after a week
trinque: I'd have to stress test the thing to say, but response time over here is about a half second. ignoring parallelism 172800 req per day (assuming pastes expire after 24hr)
trinque: if we give utterly not a shit re: enumerability, can be serial int
trinque: thinking of turning this into a little wp plugin. useful?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 00:26:53 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934071 << about to head to bed, but tomorrow morning I'm gonna do some deep log spelunking and investigating and report findings in a blog post.
lobbes: first though, I'm still log spelunking re: bot reconnect. Namely what is taking me so long here is that I went to check apache access log (to rule out a ddos) only to discover... it ain't logging anymore! I suspect I nuked a crucial module somewhere when I was trying to get the proxy stuff working
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934609 << ftr I am seriously considering bidding on this, but first I want to be clear on if I am understanding correctly all portions of the ask. I'll bake a post tonight breaking this down / asking smart questions for clarity
mircea_popescu: exact same formalisms, it was like a sorta joke / toast, in the akkadia of 3000 years ago, "oh, son of god herpy derp"
mircea_popescu: that's a name, in cuneiform, of a sort of akkadian lenin in the assyrian empire. he butchered the previous royal fambly and greatly improved the efficiency of the bureaucracy.
asciilifeform: i recall when 1st time picked up a 30kg sledge hammer. 'uhh how do people work with this.' after day or 2 of driving in stakes, felt entirely ordinary.
asciilifeform: if tomorrow mircea_popescu orders 'boot me up pc in asm into sumthing i can send packets from' it'll be in a forth.
mircea_popescu could probably write a better router than whatever the fuck that was in bash
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934889 << for the obvious fucking reason! rocker goes to mountain, "oh, i wish i could live here" "really bitch ? and what about tp ?" "oh, i'd use leaves!!!" after a week of wiping ass on pine cones... ready to grumbingly but grudgingly hit the first walmart
mircea_popescu: a ok. ONLY five five year plans ago
mircea_popescu: in a practically useless way for entirely irrelevant by now purposes etc.
mircea_popescu: he last did this back when symbolics was a thing.
mircea_popescu: but that is also a matter of heuristic
asciilifeform: diana_coman: asciilifeform is originally a lisp crackpot, rather than forth crackpot. forth is arguably 'polar opposite' , there is no gc, or 'raw ast' syntax, in fact no syntax in the familiar sense ( since you've studied 'peh' this summary oughta make sense. ) so best summary would be, i dun ~like~ forth, simply keep coming back to it because it appears to be the only known solution point in the domain space of 'most physically-com
asciilifeform: iirc 1 of the meanwhile vanished folx ( mats? ) actually bought a 'greenarrays' board. hey mats, are you alive ? what happened to this?
asciilifeform: hmm apparently i was wrong re 'okad'. appears to be a circa-2012 snapshot. nao if i had the free hands to try an' run !
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934857 << why do you suppose piz pipe, 200Mb/s costs ~1k$/mo , while in timis 1Gb/s advertised at 10 $ ? the industrial pipe can, and in fact does (lately) run at ~100% capacity for weeks on end. which is not to say that there aint scam providers which will try to throttle a customer to less than he paid. simply, piz did not suffer the misfortune of sitting under any such.
mircea_popescu: doesn't strike me as that unreasonable a standard ; but if it is -- fuck reason, i'm married to this standard before and beyond any fucking reason (not to mention -- before any sort of reason inkled in young mp's skull). so if something between this standard and reason
mircea_popescu: which is why i'm famous for being tyhe guy that sent the irs packing / tore fetlife a new one. cuz ~it is actually there~. concretely.
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institutions-a-guide/ contains ~THE ACTUAL EMAISL~. with the dumb bitches' name. and http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-i/ inclkudes ~the actual filings~. not "a summary", not some fucking whisperings.
mircea_popescu: again -- http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934656 INCLUDES THE ITEMS. not a story of the items. ~THE~ items.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, umm... that's a ~description~.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 11:55:06 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934490 << also relevantly, if ben is down w/out being rebootable, mod6 needs a new co-chair in tbf
mircea_popescu: nfi what anyone;d do with a lang that requires a literal meter of shelf for the dict ; nor do i know many people who ever read twenty english dictionaries. but there it is nevertheless.
asciilifeform: ( 'peh', fwiw, is NOT a standard-compliant forth, i committed quite deliberately war crimes against the classical standard in order to make the parser as simple as physically possible, to make all operators weigh 1 or 2 chars )
billymg: without going into too much detail my current mp-wp roadmap is: 1) finish writing tests, 2) mass delete cruft/unnecessary "features", 3) formalize a republican theme (or a few themes)
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1933994 << completely true, and i agree with asciilifeform, i'm a fan of The Tar Pit's theme (i'm also partial to trinque's theme)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934677 << this is entirely troo ( recall the infamous ibm derp's 'there is a world market for perhaps 6 computers' ? )