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mircea_popescu: source ports, thats easy."
mircea_popescu: sees the query from victims upstream DNS, but since systemd-resolved also uses fix
mircea_popescu: "The attacker would need to guess the source port of the origin since he only
asciilifeform: no, in this hypothetical, as i understand, we discover an irreparable boojum with chain as it exists.
kakobrekla: flee to where?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let the idjits hardfork from it.
asciilifeform: tickles the megalomaniacal muscle in any man
asciilifeform: quite possibly this is ideal scenario. a hardfork that sane folks on the whole planet would immediately flee to. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "careful with that axe eugene" ?
kakobrekla: idk in a sense putting 0.5.3 together is worse than x10. not only it might tell you there is bad air, you cant open the window anyway.
mircea_popescu: dude that bitcoin-assets bash is like the best site on the interne.t
asciilifeform not familiar with the figure in question, cannot comment
mircea_popescu: <Vexual> I'm no expert, I suppose they're all stuying polotics and stuff << they totally are. about 3/4 of my class in college was actual hos.
mircea_popescu: but this "in romania" discussion is entirely besides the point, not like she can't just as well do it in switzerland or luxemburg or w/e.
mircea_popescu: NOT within the first three arondisments, either.
asciilifeform: somebody here, iirc, suggested exactly this.
kakobrekla: no that wasnt the question
asciilifeform: plan was, someone wanted to fix it...
kakobrekla: and if it doesnt, whats the plan?
asciilifeform: beyond verifying that it indeed functions.
asciilifeform: back to that thread: can't speak for others, but i don't intend to use the trimmed 0.5.3 in anger.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: should we even be doing bitcoinwhatever on x86 << what do you think.
Vexual: remember, this lady prolly get free handbags and parties
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: chick makes 1500 per show, 18k for the whole season, pre tax << what does 18k usd buy in ro ?
Vexual: yeah or he just goes and takes tuxs safe
assbot: Logged on 26-03-2014 03:30:35; asciilifeform: nitpick with pediwikia - the 'batman' in the epic is not wearing a 'batman' costume. he's a bloke who smashes heads with a baseball bat.
asciilifeform: this may be the source of the reference in question. iirc, 'power rangers' was one such film.
asciilifeform: by same convention, they will only do so at the last minute, when about to be crushed one by one by the forces of evil (tm)
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: there is a film convention, found usually in 'superhero' yarns, where a gang of derps each of whom amounts to exactly nothing, 'combine their powers' and form an invincible killing machine of one kind or another
asciilifeform: take your pick of a sufficiently 'heavy' problem (not necessarily deeply-mathematical, however) and, carry it on long enough, will realize - that we don't really 'have computers.'
mats_cd03: earliest log reference is to mp. no context.
mats_cd03: what is the origin of this 'power rangers' nick?
kakobrekla: you think i can come up with such stuff myself?
asciilifeform: not entirely off the mark.
kakobrekla: yes it was a reference to that
asciilifeform: actually i started out thinking about something quite else, when realized that we can't build a computer.
kakobrekla: is this how it went?
kakobrekla: something like that
kakobrekla: 'i once tought about bitcoin but then realized we cant build a computer'
Vexual: oh, the book
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: why do you suppose i asked for the book
Vexual: yeah all I want to know id who ignores it
kakobrekla: i was saying to ascii anywho.
asciilifeform: we're still at this stage.
asciilifeform: much like the early concept of 'space station' was born from the fact of 'a military satellite's expensive, someone gotta change the vacuum tubes when they burn' -
Vexual: yeah, i send em out from time to time
Vexual: I've sent my fair share of malformed tx
asciilifeform: ever set up local node to pump blockchain from exclusively ?
ben_vulpes is frustrated with the manual testing process
ben_vulpes: recently restarted from zero with the db_config file
asciilifeform: afaik kakobrekla's db trick has no effect in 0.5.3
ben_vulpes: working on some testing automation to boot
ben_vulpes: ramming it into the iceberg again
Vexual: I'm no expert, I suppose they're all stuying polotics and stuff
mircea_popescu: pretty sure callgirls make about 10x that.
mircea_popescu: chick makes 1500 per show, 18k for the whole season, pre tax.
mircea_popescu: romanian press : "wow, find out how much alina eremia makes working for romanian tv!!!" "alina eremia paid kingly-ly for role in tv!!!11" "find out here..." etc.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: scratch that, it was 'getting started in electronics' (mims)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: these are my personal favourites from these categories
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: found a cool app that teaches basic circuit building. (like gates and shit), i was wondering if you had any references to good exercises, in your vast library :P
mircea_popescu: maybe 15yo me speaking through my voice. but what i recall was "o noes, memory mapping"
asciilifeform: because it had to make sense to author.
asciilifeform: even today, the (rare) malware written in asm, once you get past the obfuscations, is easier to make sense of than conventional (compiled) turds
asciilifeform: at least, in the period when mostly written by hand
mircea_popescu: jesus they had some incredible "mystery code" back then, cuz you never really knew what's being addressed how.
asciilifeform: (where one can have multiple tasks, and each has illusion of owning the machine, swapping from disk on access to physically-nonexisting page, etc. the whole shebang.)
mircea_popescu: kinda when the insanity starts. "o, we'll fix it."
asciilifeform: though 'protected' also added page table and thereby virtual addressing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is this the real that was address-ambiguous, which is how 286 "protected" mode came about ?
asciilifeform: you're still stuck with the 'segments' idiocy, though
asciilifeform: entirely identical to classical 'real' mode but without the 20bit limit.
mircea_popescu: so you could read a portion in front from two diff places
mircea_popescu: wait, is this the thing which ambiguously allocated a part of the pages
asciilifeform: afaik the etymology of 'real' in 'real mode' was such: no use made of page tables and other indirections
mircea_popescu strains to remember
jurov: mircea_popescu stan is talking about pseudo-8088 memory space done by real mode segments
mircea_popescu: same thought process imo
asciilifeform: but when weitek (original brand of 'fpu') appeared, registers therein were already, iirc, 80 bit
mircea_popescu: "real mode", in the following sense : just like you have ints and floats, ie, reals, ie, two ints bundled together one playing mantissa
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: think of the children!
mircea_popescu: people easily forget that the "two byte year" comes from a time when they also had a 20 byte bus
jurov: we got there by piling chairs upon poor 8088. preserving binary compatibility for all costs worked for people involved
asciilifeform ^ did not know that an article like this existed, or was thought by someone to be needed
jurov: and i'm not sure it's actually intel fault...rather msft was utterly inept to use real mode emulation
asciilifeform: but yes, 20 bits of address space, cut into idiot 'segmentation' - thank intel.
mircea_popescu: anwyay, you could rewrite your io.sys. this was trivial enough to do that brigther highschoolers did it to prank each other.
asciilifeform: (afaik all classical dos-es used it for disk access likewise, though)
asciilifeform: mostly for the int 13 bios routine that loaded the boot block
asciilifeform: apps were expected to talk directly to hardware << except for disk. hence the 'd' in msdos.
asciilifeform: one could turn on 'memory hole' in some old bios configurators.
mircea_popescu: anyway, msdos as an os was not horrible. it wasn't great or w/e, arbitrary standards, but better oses are not actually common today.
jurov: not very fair comparison...there was Das IBM PC, apps were expected to talk directly to hardware
asciilifeform: that's another thing
mircea_popescu: the entire memory hole thing. bypass still present in bioses as late as the 2005s
asciilifeform: but this was really intel's fault.
asciilifeform: most folks who remember msdos with ill thoughts, i've found, suffered in the latter part of the '90s with 'memory hell'
mircea_popescu: yes. now there;s all this demonic elaborate suckage from hell.
ben_vulpes: mebbe a motto for the foundation
mircea_popescu: a point not commonly reached these days
ben_vulpes: i am interested in the history, though.