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assbot: Logged on 11-09-2014 03:44:31; *: asciilifeform also saw this
assbot: Logged on 11-09-2014 03:44:22; *: decimation remembers every pos and library using said terminals growing up, only to be replaced with buggy-ass windows for no reason ☟︎
decimation: yeah I think we discussed the dumbification of pos terminals in the past http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2014#825488 ☝︎
mike_c: this has nothing to do with website shopping
cazalla: mike_c, ty
decimation: I wanted to burn
decimation: I called customer service and they said that it would be quite impossible to change the first set of numbers, because that's my account number
decimation: when my credit card number kept getting stolen (before I was smart about website passwords), amex refused to change anything other than the last 4 digits when 're-issued'
PeterL: patate: what brings you to #bitcoin-assets?
mike_c: for "my" safety. except i'm not liable for fraud. so actually they are being a pain in my ass for their safety. fucking home depot.
decimation: "but germany agreed to X"
asciilifeform: mastercard << reads like yet another 'let's whip the hellespont.'
mike_c: yes. and now i have to run around to all the individuals i trusted before and change it.
decimation: I think this is common in the 'democratic' world - 'venue shopping'
decimation: mike_c: did it have a secret number on the front that you were only to share with pre-trusted individuals
assbot: MasterCard's Submission To Economics References Committee Now Available | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1A9OBOW )
decimation: asciilifeform: the link cazalla dropped http://qntra.net/2014/12/mastercards-submission-to-economics-references-committee-now-available/
decimation: it's obviously an idea balloon that they are going to try to use to kill bitcoin dead everywhere
decimation: as far as I know few/no american tardstream media is covering
decimation: this mastercard in australia thing is lulzy
decimation: mike_c: are you saying that luck ain't got nothing to do with it?
mike_c: v2 of the bitbet analyzer is so cool i almost want to keep it to myself. i'd win all the bitcoins.
asciilifeform: melatonin at night: for what it's worth, i usually tune the gamma to be heavy on the red
asciilifeform: decimation: and aha, these aren't piss-ant led lights either. ccfl tubes - which means they can't be cranked down all the much (and stay lit)
decimation: probably affecting your ability to produce melatonin at night
kakobrekla: yes it can be felt here on 5x27" as well but no tan :\
asciilifeform plugged in the two 'eizo' panels spoken of earlier, can actually -feel- the heat now
undata: then of course the whole thing is moot on broken hardware
undata: there's always the hard problem of bootstrapping your build tools in a secure way
undata: that'd be miles better than just trusting what ended up in the ebuild
undata: it'd be neat to publish the hash of a given release of a package into the blockchain
decimation: one of the main problems that linux packaging aims to solve is exactly the issue ascii rants about, that is - lack of a global namespace for code
decimation: 'make install' the turd as it comes without modification
decimation: well, gentoo is pretty close to having 'unpackages'
decimation: Dr-G: are you connected via tor and then sasl, or end-to-end sasl to freenode?
undata: decimation: yep, I think it's necessary
decimation: undata: true, but how else does one 'convey' trust?
undata: I don't see how you solve that problem without having all source packages grabbed directly from creators with signatures verified, and compiling yourself
decimation: and note that "Maintenance" nearly always consists of adding some derpy package turd
decimation: which is nearly universal as far as I can tell
asciilifeform: decimation: aha, the 'anonymous monkeys submit, poettering signs' model
decimation: why should I trust some derp who 'volunteers' for arch over the upstream creator?
decimation: asciilifeform: one thing that annoys me about most distro crypto-discipline is that they pretend that only the 'maintainers' could sign
decimation: few actual important details have been released, like "where they are gonna buy bitcoin" and "how they gonna index btc price"
decimation: yeah, it seems they are already derped by much of of the 'tardstream' media anyway
cazalla: decimation, they're pretty quiet
asciilifeform: (given public keys of the players)
asciilifeform: ideally should come with a script that establishes that a copy is 100% canonical.
asciilifeform: the beauty of the everything-pgp-signed concept is that this thing ought to be deadly-easy to mirror.
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asciilifeform: or is there a new site
kakobrekla: ask ben_vulpes about the feed
mike_c: assbot plz send donation to b-a donation address.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i take it turdatron functions to spec now?
assbot: f9beb4d9 #16: SUCCESS (stable); Comment: asciilifeform's turdmeister-alert-snip patch
assbot: f9beb4d9 #10: SUCCESS (stable); Comment: empty folders are required for build to pass
assbot: f9beb4d9 #9: SUCCESS (back to normal); No comment.
assbot: f9beb4d9 #4: FAILURE (broken since build #3); Comment: result of applying the chicken patch
assbot: f9beb4d9 #3: FAILURE (broken since this build); No comment.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it's every bit as evil as you think. esp. given as (i, at least) 'drink' considerably more display than wine.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've only just now started appreciating good wines, i don't care to get into "good" monitors too.
kakobrekla: this will get a bit spammy, but i want to have it in the log, so lets just get it over with.
ben_vulpes: dunno how i hit enter there...
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've only just started to appreciate it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the gizmos in question were 'sx2462w'.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: them.
asciilifeform: eizo, opium of the eye
asciilifeform: lol, i've quite the collection of freshly minted 'paperweights' here (all the retiring non-eizo panels)
BingoBoingo: I was thinking more like a pinky finger cased in lucite, the chunk of flesh, not the monitor
BingoBoingo: 30 is easier to toss at monkeys than 200
asciilifeform: decimation: all the pleasure of good deal, ruined by getting shafted in a newly discovered (personally) way
BingoBoingo: You could ask for a portion of the monkey?
asciilifeform: nor a third unicorn.
asciilifeform: it was a unicorn, and the usual shipper-insurance/vendor-guarantee combo does not really work on unicorns.
decimation: I went to a ebay 'junk dealer' once. The owner knew his electronics, but he employed a bunch of monkeys to pack, ship, and do clerical work
asciilifeform: only reason i even bother to bring this headache up here in #b-a is that it presents an interesting case
asciilifeform: it wasn't the vendor.
asciilifeform: just thinking about the imbecile who packed.
decimation: maybe for you, today, they sell for $1.4k
decimation: mainly the whole screen
asciilifeform: thing is, these are $1.5k machines that sold together for 300. what, ask for refund for one?
decimation: heh that's a subtle way of putting it
asciilifeform: so here's a poor man's mega-lol. i buy two 'eizo' sx2462w monsters. both show up, were packed in new, m0d3rn expanding chemical foam. one - properly. other - with all the foam on one side of crate. naturally, frame cracked, 'bullet hole' of dead blue pixel on crystal.
ben_vulpes: "Currently, digital currencies lack the basic protections consumers have come to expect when transacting online. For example, contrary to a consumer's experience when paying wit a MasterCard product, if a consumer uses digital currency to make a purchase on line and the merchant fails to deliver the goods, the consumer has no recourse through the digital currency's network." << oh lordy
decimation: xinxiwang: I've always wanted to ask a singaporean what he thought about politics in the us compared to politics in sg
assbot: MasterCard's Submission To Economics References Committee Now Available | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1v84HDK )
decimation: np. I take it that you hail from singapore?
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decimation: although it appears that there are other taxes depending on which region one resides
decimation: no, the 28% only applies to the first $16k of income
undata: so it seems "half" is the usual amount of taxation wherever you are
decimation: yeah, but there's a cap
undata: decimation: woah, 28% on the lowest tier of UST?
thestringpuller: ;;later tell jurov withdrawals
decimation: yeah, plus that highly regressive 'social security' tax
undata: decimation: 13%, the communists!
decimation: re: regressive tax < pete_dushenski made me aware that Russia actually has a regressive tax, probably for the same reason you think it is a good idea - the rich are more likely to pay
decimation: maybe they hacked those chinese flash cards with onboard microcontrollers for write leveling/usb to compute
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: training wheels on a function wave?
mircea_popescu: amorous answer than you were looking for but we actually are putting the finishing touches on one of our biggest data centres yet in the next couple of weeks, I actually spoke to someone a few days ago who saw it and he's never seen that many miners and flash computers in one place."