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undata: are you kidding? these "riots" are the US version of the same festering problems you see anywhere people are rotting in socialist paradise
BingoBoingo: BlueMeanie4: To be fair when the Despots on the UNHCR criticize your human rights record, there may be a problem http://qntra.net/2014/12/un-report-criticises-united-states-on-human-rights/
assbot: Black Teen Tells Ferguson Commission "Darren Wilson Pretty Much Did His Job" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FPCz0k )
BlueMeanie4: you just dont hear from those ppl
undata: ... what problems, the "riots"?
BlueMeanie4: there are plenty of black ppl who think all this is ridiculous
BlueMeanie4: in engineering these problems
BlueMeanie4: personally, I think Russia has a hand in all this
mircea_popescu: reading this steam lispo thing, howdja get so cynical asciilifeform !
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo meh. more likely, a tweetmeet with some politicos trying to be all you know, talked about.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: funny thing is, nyc probably sees the equivalent of five or six 'good riot' every night. just, not all in one street.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm thinking something like "Do the right thing" trashcan through windows... prolly at least one good fire.
BlueMeanie4: the whole thing is a massive media manipulation stunt, seems we get one every few months these days
BlueMeanie4: daniel can tell you what KFC is
BlueMeanie4: any Americans in the house?
BlueMeanie4: if they close KFC, yes
BingoBoingo: Anyone offering odds on whether New York gets riots tonight?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> possibly author assumed that i read whatever snakepit he linked to it in. << more likely assumed you'll see it in your logs.
asciilifeform: (allowing also the possibility of copies residing in ru, cn vaults. but notice - their security, in that case, also - by inference - works.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so why is this piece supposed to bother you ?
BlueMeanie4: well that aint gonna get ya users now will it? ;)
asciilifeform: which is precisely the point. none of these jewels ever left the vault.
asciilifeform: if needed this to eat, would've starved.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, i'd enjoy reading, e.g., what the aes weak key class is.
BlueMeanie4: Iphone ... as in trendy tracking device?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i doubt anyone much cares bout teh master key, but anyweay.
undata: If I have mastered 2+2=5, there are things completely out of my reach
gribble: You rated user BlueMeanie4 on Sat Oct 18 13:17:40 2014, with a rating of -2, and supplied these additional notes: thinks the WoT should be more like an iPhone; http://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4.
asciilifeform: when some bozo walks a genuine master key out of ft. meade (and not opsec garbage) - i'll believe the 'poor security.'
undata: asciilifeform: so someone can surely be beaten into this state; what I'm asking is whether they don't become useless as a tool in that state
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2014 05:15:13; asciilifeform: it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?' '
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2014 05:15:13; asciilifeform: 'Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do
mircea_popescu: undata there's a reason i dun want new york after all.
undata: doesn't this suggest followers which are too sure of "what is" are not good slaves at all?
mircea_popescu: not that o noes, sekoority.
mircea_popescu: the only reason obama doesn't get a glass shard through the eye is that nobody gives a shit about him and his eye
mircea_popescu: so then.
asciilifeform: (in actuality - jp theatrical convention, actor in black is shorthand for 'not seen by the others' on stage)
asciilifeform: or, also example, the popular image of black-clothed 'ninja'
mircea_popescu: ever wondered how these dudes in their very distinctive gear manage to go in and out of the roman camp ?
asciilifeform: when it wants to work - it works.
mircea_popescu: i know this from experience, so does anyone else in any way involved with any aspect thereof.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't find it hard to believe us security sucks.
mircea_popescu: "Then, God be bless'd, it is the blessed sun: but sun it is not, when you say it is not; and the moon changes even as your mind. What you will have it named, even that it is; and so it shall be so for Katharina."
undata: mircea_popescu: dunno, I've met plenty without tits
asciilifeform: or 'all the security cams just happened to fail that day. act of god. whatcha looking at.'
mircea_popescu: undata> there must just be a class of people who are wholly programmable, who will ignore reality completely if told to do so << yes. this class of people is called "women".
mircea_popescu: <undata> what I'm stuck on is this: you can have a hole in the pentagon smaller than the wingspan of a plane << of course. why not ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> because you 'clearly do not know how the world works' or the like. << a sword that cuts both ways.
assbot: Logged on 27-11-2014 08:57:03; mircea_popescu: decimation: sign, google or apple, pick your poison <<< yeah, isn't chrome basically one of those spammy "toolbars" they had for netscape that sort-of mutated into being its own browser ?
mircea_popescu: <undata> I'm starting to see Google Chrome as a trojan << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-11-2014#936618 ☝︎
asciilifeform: betcha that uterus-extractor works great.
undata: "if works" << that's the whole point, isn't it?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> fact is, if works, will be used. << so much this
asciilifeform: does 'the pear' have 'legitimate use' ? what kind of question even is that? matter of taste.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2014 16:46:43; mircea_popescu: logo could be one of those mechanical vaginal pears they had cca 1600
undata: what troubles me is whether that thing has a legitimate use, or whether there are particular humans that are irredeemably broken
undata: the religion rootkit, whatever you want to call that
undata: this, that there's a script which is expected to precede that which my own eyes tell me
asciilifeform: this is among the sharpest and most-used tools in the reptilian toolkit.
asciilifeform: the hole was not a secret (not for long, anyway). but anyone of any note, who believed 'his lying eyes' and spoke out in public - is now written out of the script.
undata: there's a distinction there between one who can lie, and one who doesn't know it's a lie
undata: a person who can do that is a danger to everyone
undata: there must just be a class of people who are wholly programmable, who will ignore reality completely if told to do so
undata: what I'm stuck on is this: you can have a hole in the pentagon smaller than the wingspan of a plane
asciilifeform: that's another thing altogether.
asciilifeform: because you 'clearly do not know how the world works' or the like.
asciilifeform: but in such a way that, by professing whatever belief in it, you write yourself out of 'polite society' permanently
adlai: ditto for studies on the objective and subjective effects of 'oiling' the thinking machine with various alkaloids, terpenoids, etc
asciilifeform: crank bait is normally factual material that blows 'official truth' out of the water, placed deliberately in the public domain. ☟︎
asciilifeform: sorta like trying to get a sense of the lesser-known work of n. tesla.
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'baghdad battery' is an example of a subject that is virtually impossible to research on the net - on account of it being a favourite of ten thousand kinds of prolix idiot, and consequently shunned by most thinking folks
undata: I'm still stuck on the CIA having given a bomb to a guy who boarded a plane
mircea_popescu: oh check it out, the us warcrimes list includes wartime looting!
BingoBoingo: Who said anything about downloading... It's probably in one of the piles of processed tree corpses in the garage.
asciilifeform: a stooge can have no possible guarantee of not being thrown into the woodchipper at whatever convenient later time by his patron.
adlai: "The ‘batteries’ were among objects looted from the Iraqi National Museum in Baghdad during the invasion by the USA and its allies in 2003. It is not known where they are now or if they even still exist." http://www.badarchaeology.com/?page_id=208
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo remember that piracy is theft.
BingoBoingo: Not yet. Need too. Will look tonight
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is also, for the impatient, a mostly-passable film
undata: however they've done this, bravo...
BingoBoingo: Oh shit!!! asciilifeform Fuck that was a while ago.
mircea_popescu: just so, these dudes were going there because "el dorado", not because... whatever, empty space.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: notice date on article. the only interesting aspect, arguably, is how the whole thing vanished neatly into 'the memory hole' without a trace.
mircea_popescu: take woman with cock in her mouth. she's there because "the guy really respects her" right ? and "he has a great sense of humor" right ?
mircea_popescu: the ways common psychology works, the ways people motivate themselves to do things they'll do anyway...
BingoBoingo: Turns out underwear bomber was likely very cooperative because he thought the CIA would bring the FBI in on this whole informant thing.
mircea_popescu: it has everything to do with wanting to motivate euros to get the fuck there, much like the wild stories propping up the south sea bubble
asciilifeform: inception of the notion - nothing to do with anything but the usual avarice
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so i'd posit it has nothing to do with gold, olr with "gems" which they claimed the streets are paved with (most of which - obsydian).
assbot: 'Underwear bomber' was working for the CIA | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1FNVMNX )
BingoBoingo: More on how the US treats informants http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/may/09/underwear-bomber-working-for-cia
asciilifeform: (how did conquistadors get the idea of massive inca gold? easy - shown outlandish heaps of 'gold' junk. which was in fact plated.)
mircea_popescu: im in the business of trying to form an idea of wtf happened.
asciilifeform: arguably this got them killed.
mircea_popescu: im not in the business of proving to a bunch of idiots that they're wrong.
mircea_popescu: but i don't happen to favour that sort of standard of evidence.
asciilifeform: now, if you find an item that could only have been plated electrically - then.
adlai likes the speculation that artifacts throught to be gold are just electroplated
asciilifeform: last i recall, they assume 'electroless' plating and rest.