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phf: you replay to 167998, you then let it run till 168000 on the network. if it doesn't wedge with that setup, than you have two possibilities. it is either a heisenbug, or you need to replay to an earlier block, say 167000 and let that run on the wild network, etc. ☟︎
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/08/05/the-bitcoin-crash-fork-failure-chronology/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The Bitcoin Crash fork failure chronology.
phf: if it consistently wedges at 168000 across various machines and settings then it's not a question of wild sewage
phf: well, if i were approaching this, i'd replay to 167998 or so, setup a script to ensure that every time i start trb it starts from that state. i would then see if on forward play it would wedge. i would then investigate what is the nature of wedging, and slowly instrument the code along the various paths to tell me where exactly it decides to stop doing the right thing, etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 04:32 asciilifeform: mod6: imho manual knobs ~for unwedging~ are a fundamental mistake. nodes shouldn't be wedgeable, period. and the only use for a wedged node is to learn why it wedged and to make said scenario impossible in the future.
asciilifeform: phf: there was a bdb idiocy iirc that wedged at 168k
phf: that's a nice round number too, 168000
asciilifeform: ( and where if the addnode people get hiccupped it will pick a rando scum to rely on, and never drop him no matter how many hours, days, WEEKs without newblock incoming)
asciilifeform: i walked the logs , found no record of a nailed root cause or finalsolution
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> worth a comparison << Aha someone steps up to duplicate my December 2016 to May 2017 experiment!
asciilifeform: worth a comparison
asciilifeform: and been a while since i synced from empty
mod6: <+phf> that's because you didn't try to simply use the patch to makefile that i posted on the list << i've had a trb openbsd since you posted this yes.
asciilifeform: why would it demand a working network PRIOR to assignment of static ip ?!!!!
asciilifeform: you have nfi whether it is actually a last year's hex string, fed back to you again.
asciilifeform: it's a hex string, neh
asciilifeform: i do not know of anything that would qualify as a final solution for this.
asciilifeform: however one of the things that i always had ill ease about re pgp challenge-responsetrons , is that enemy who somehow substituted one, can get you to decrypt a message of his choice. (e.g. last year's launch codes.)
deedbot: http://trinque.org/2017/08/05/otp-bot-services/ << trinque - Towards a Reliable OTP Mechanism for Bot Services ☟︎
asciilifeform: so i assumed it was a dud
asciilifeform: dunno -- possibly because it never turned into a proper vpatch ..?
asciilifeform: i had a year+ of unsuccess with openbsd
asciilifeform attempts a build of traditional stator trb inside netbsd ( as rotor is unnecessary there, there is no drepper glibc )
asciilifeform discovers that NOTHING AT ALL works under netbsd for ~building~ ( i had 2yrs ago build a 'stator' FOR netbsd, UNDER linux, worked... )
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-05#1694201 << eh? Reread message I sent (maybe I can't word things). There was a mistake that benefits me, not you :) ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the cellars of the shitreich, https://archive.is/mpbcX >> '...ederal prosecutors also attempted to block Hutchins' request for bail on grounds he had shot firearms at a shooting range last week while in Vegas for the Black Hat and Defcon security gatherings'
phf: and now a message from our sponsors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9Iv_2fH_4
phf: kiss from a rose … this is tmsr radio! i'm waiting from your calls. ☟︎
phf: keep those leaps sealed, stranger, but meanwhile … seal, "kiss from a rose" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCol1dhLmco
phf: a quite type eh, well, it's 4:30am, tmsr, i'm waiting for your calls, meanwhile, .. frankie bones, the man, the legend, on … tmsr radio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZbogMbh3iM
phf: and since it's a slow night at tmsr, in other non-news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHGyW3IJZL0
mircea_popescu: well, a little perivulvarily, but nothing to write home about.
phf: i had a viewing of olympia couple of days ago at my place.. i mean, it's not any kind of a movie..
mircea_popescu: if one can make it throuygh a 30 second superbowl break, one can make it through 30s nazi-sf attempts.
mircea_popescu: you might have to go through kgb archives to locate a print. i rather doubt the internet has such doubleplusungood material.
mircea_popescu: and since i'm doing a nazi film retrospective, asciilifeform phf ever saw der herr der welt ? 1934 sf! robots! death rays!
mircea_popescu: about a harem's worth, +-.
mircea_popescu: and in other humble living news, a pound of frozen maraschino cherries, a coupla bananas, a dozen or two shots of prime rum, milk and ice qs blend into a rather pleasant cocktail
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Sada Abe - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sada_Abe>; Sada Abe | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers: <http://murderpedia.org/female.A/a/abe-sada.htm>; Smiling Sada Abe - FamousPictures.org: <http://www.famouspictures.org/smiling-sada-abe/>
mircea_popescu: major japanese sex/fun scandal pre ww2, lifetime whore from whore fambly cut off dude's penis and went around with it inserted for a few days.
asciilifeform: 'i want a glass of beer' 'here is some sand, a plot of land..'
asciilifeform: anyway above contemplation is a year+ of sweat and all you get at the end is a very expensive arm.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever reball a bga?
mircea_popescu: board is no such a huge deal. for one thing they're all farmed out anyway, and most parts are off the shelf ; for the other -- how the fuck are you gonna cut off the on-chip nasty.
mircea_popescu: there';s no fundamental reason trb needs more than about 5mb or so of ram ; but this aside : gotta find a way to put your own ram in the damned arm boxes.
mircea_popescu: right. so basically time exposed a broken box you had in your basement. happens to me all teh time. ☟︎
asciilifeform: it was running a vintage centos prev.
asciilifeform: it was a fist-sized 'gigabyte' fanless celeron thing.
asciilifeform: possibly, i'ma try it on this here one i've nailed to a plank
mircea_popescu: yes, but i expect you can turn it off with a proper bios ?
asciilifeform: that's a 'kabini'
asciilifeform: possibly one could try building a netbsd that doesn't try to touch the usb chip at all. then enjoy setting up sans keyboard. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 22:43 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694035 << doesn't sound like much of a box. yank usb3 controller off board i guess ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-04 21:20 asciilifeform: but dun have time to spend 2 wks making a gentoo box...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-04#1694035 << doesn't sound like much of a box. yank usb3 controller off board i guess ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: but dun have time to spend 2 wks making a gentoo box... ☟︎
asciilifeform: because the shitware iron does not in fact follow anything resembling a spec. it follows a liquishit that would take up five walls of book if ever put to paper -- which it won't be -- and co-developed with winblowz shitware driver, which ~runs, and rathead shitware 'open' sores driver, which runs, and naught ever else.
asciilifeform: ( and in fact it ran on my pogo. but that doesn't produce a usable trb node. )
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ( 'why should we ship dev tool! we're a binary turd, microshit by other name' ) << this
asciilifeform: ( 'why should we ship dev tool! we're a binary turd, microshit by other name' )
mircea_popescu: a nice.
mircea_popescu: a kk
lobbes: I.e. the "<a href=http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-08-04.log.html>s</a>.</li>."
mircea_popescu: aand in other mini-news, <li>#trilema <a href=http://btcbase.org/log/>l</a><a href=http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema>o</a><a href=http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today>g</a><a href=http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-08-04.log.html>s</a>.</li>.
asciilifeform: ( they didn't own a fab, either, contracted )
asciilifeform: as for weight, original bolix was doublefridge size. the 3620 (what i have here) was paraded when debuted by the ceo hand carried on a stage in front of audience, 'only 100 pounds!'
asciilifeform: if we're speaking of 1980s, no comp maker then engineered 'for power draw and ecology', it was a nonstarter
mircea_popescu: right, you can make a lisp machine.
asciilifeform: you ~can~ make a i386. or a m68k. mips. 'ivory'... etc
asciilifeform: ( and that's the global clock net max, rather than 'hey i can make a pentium pro'. LUT delay is 10ns+ iirc )
asciilifeform: ice40 series tops out at 250Mhz iirc, so it'd be a modest thing. but working.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/08/04/how-does-infant-car-seat-handle-in-blackzilla/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - “How does infant car seat handle in Blackzilla?”
mircea_popescu: this is to my eyes a very substantial difference.
asciilifeform: not every craft ends up creating a self-licking-icecreamcone guild
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because that's how it goes, whether to have a caste at all comes before what kind shall it be.
mircea_popescu: but this is a node further down the tree.
mircea_popescu: veterinary tools are not much worse for the job than what was found in a hospital cca 1970. the problem with obgyn is the hand not the tool.
asciilifeform: there used to be a population of quacks offering 'cheap, discrete' abortions with veterinary tools they somehow got hold of, & similar
mircea_popescu: which is the sad point that i am constrained to make against my will : there's a good fucking reason for tivoization.
asciilifeform: bonus re teflontape -- teflon + Al reaction -- explosion and HF. this requires strictly pressure to initiate. pressure that is sometimes reached in a water pipe...
mircea_popescu: their bane is technology. /me saw pipe screwed in backwards (for some reason pipe had been threaded the wrong way for the nut). but with the help of teflon tape (GAS version, btw) it only leaked a little. dripped.
asciilifeform: i recently saw a truck painted with ad, 'we are the plumber who will fix the pipe your husband 'fixed' '
mircea_popescu: you gotta a) read the fucking manual to find oil drain spot ; b) lift front on crank ; c) set a large enough recipient correctly on the ground.
asciilifeform: in old-time su, when auto aficionados all had access to a pit, they could
asciilifeform: a trial with toslink is in the worx but omfg i have too few hands and infinite work
mircea_popescu: screw a filter in if short, no biggy.
mircea_popescu: technically this is a good thing, can use very long cable.
asciilifeform: and it ain't a 'cable too short' either -- i used a 4-metre fiber
asciilifeform: but currently i have nfi who -- if anyone -- makes a better one pcb-mounted visible-light one. that module is ubiquitous.
asciilifeform: btw that laser was a bit wonky, i hesitate to recommend it : it would overpower the receiver if the fiber were actually screwed in all the way 'to the hilt', and barf
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in subrural romania, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-BxbLyO_ng
asciilifeform: both may very well still make diff in a tactical setting.
asciilifeform: (i.e. made no diff, in a lab setting, whether power source was pc (mine is on isolated mains however) or batt )
mircea_popescu: you mean, you had a boxed fg running and it produced 20GB of entropy so far and you can't detect anything more or less than with an unboxed FG ?
mircea_popescu: (25 bux for a meter's worth or so)
asciilifeform: ideally you'd put a black hose around it.
asciilifeform: this is a 20bux board that gives fullspeed usb , lamps, ir i/o (why -- idk ) and various else.
mircea_popescu: "hey, we discover a way whereby cold equations no longer applies" "o wow. does this way still do anything ?" "nope" "so it's directly equivalent to not having invented anything" "yes, but we can brand this."
asciilifeform: and buncha lights, and a pin header.
asciilifeform: 'icestick' is a notbad student devboard btw