571300+ entries in 0.386s
mircea_popescu: The CryptoCurrency Certification Consortium (C4) establishes cryptocurrency standards
that help ensure a balance of openness & privacy, security & usability, and
trust & decentralization.
undata: there's both a bootstrapping problem
there as well as a finger-vs-moon
thing
undata: I can name delusional
thinking much more easily
than I can say
to what coherent
thinking might be anchored
undata: and having said
that, I can already see
the problem with
that framing
undata: mircea_popescu: does
the disease reduce
to "can't
tell
the difference between imagined and perceived"
undata: it's
the economic "jesus is coming back"
undata: "the recovery" <<
there's a good one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the difference between us here is
that you seem
to include
the margin. i say
there's no margin included.
undata: reminds me of
the Bill Hicks routine where he
tells everyone in marketing in
the audience
to kill
themselves
undata: ah I was just ranting earlier about how all american communication has been reduced
to marketing
undata: ah when I hear meta I
think metaprogramming
mircea_popescu: what's all
teh "ironic"
trend if not, you know, "i'm meta-er
than you ha!"
mircea_popescu: the only reason hipsters have moved on
to bikes is
that
they're meta cars
mircea_popescu: what's more socially acceptable
than playing
the farmer on facebook ?
mircea_popescu: ask some chick if she wants
to get laid ? o but... not meta enough!
mircea_popescu: you're not "supposed
to" beat your own kids. you're supposed
to... "be better
than
that". and do it ? indirectly! ha! win.
undata: seems like
the bank and
the state both own some ownership
undata: well sure, I pay my landlord
to rent
this apt, he pays
the bank for
the building and
the state for
the dirt
mircea_popescu: but if you look at it, pretty much all effort goes
towards meta.
undata: it seems fitting,
the state in
this case can issue power, but revoke it at will
undata: sure,
then he can either steal from you, or print more, which steals from you just
the same
undata: hence you receive "ownership" from
the state but have
to give it back more
undata: then you can rent ownership from
the state, but never have it yourself
undata: it seems like in state-run economies, when
they print money what
they're actually manufacturing is ownership
mircea_popescu: but a state with economic involvement and
the custody of
the currency is like...
mircea_popescu: this'd work fine in practice for as long as
the martian contraption owner didn't also have a cock
undata: asciilifeform:
the metaphor needs
the horses
to get smaller
the more of
them
there are :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not sure if you've noticed, but
the movement is AWAY from direct sense,
towards meta.
undata: +asciilifeform | why not skip straight
to chattel slavery - more honest, makes immediate sense
to everybody. <<
this is "why propaganda?" isn't it
mike_c: thanks.
that what google
translate said but i didn't know if
that was just robot
talk.
mike_c: totally on
topic: can someone
tell me how
to say "date of birth" in spanish/mexican
mircea_popescu: they've got
the opportunity
to send
their kids
to college :D
undata: feels not so great when you have
to start paying
them
undata: "And
the 1990s, remember, were
the good
times for
the middle class."
undata: "notice, I've created
this graph."
mircea_popescu: this is
true
tho. numerically :
the poor used
to have 0.8 opportunity, and
the rich 0.75
mircea_popescu: "Perhaps he was handed
the story by
the CIA, as German journalist Udo Ulfkotte confesses he often was."
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Gold
to drop under $1000 before Feb 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1080/ Odds: 49(Y):51(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight.
Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,979.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Gold
to drop under $1000 before Feb 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1080/ Odds: 100(Y):0(N) by coin, 100(Y):0(N) by weight.
Total bet: 1 BTC. Current weight: 100,000.
pete_dushenski: though i
tend
to spend >1 month per winter somewhere warm so it's easy for me
to say :D
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu cute!
that's pretty much what
the non-migratory fauna look like here atm.
twas -35C last week,
though a blessed -10C
today
mircea_popescu: you people with your retro fashions will be
the end of
the fucking world
pete_dushenski: i ordered a model m and a unicomp
to see how
they stack up
cazalla: mircea_popescu, ya, i know of eve but who wants
to fuck about with fiat
to isk
to bitcoin, y u nao use bitcoin itself already
pete_dushenski: undata how incredible are we
talking? like built-in-easy-bake-oven-incredible?
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> pete_dushenski, i can see paying $2,500 for a ship in a game, not as a pre-order mind you. i hope for a game where bitcoin is
the ingame currency and players set pricing for resources independent of publisher << it;'s called eve
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i can see paying $2,500 for a ship in a game, not as a pre-order mind you. i hope for a game where bitcoin is
the ingame currency and players set pricing for resources independent of publisher
undata: "The humans
then
turned
their attention inward, creating ever more realistic virtual worlds
to live within.
The comet hit in 2091."
pete_dushenski: it's all about roi where "return" is in units of
time mindlessly consumed
undata: there's something amusing in
there about proles pouring enough money
to build a real rocket into a
toy, but..
undata: Cloud Imperium does look pretty badass, if
the videos are any indication of where it's headed
pete_dushenski: star citizen will prove, once and for all,
that consumers really want good clean fun
pete_dushenski: cazalla if gta5 can deliver,
then surely something with a fraction of
the drugs, violence, and sex industree can
cazalla: star citizen better deliver
the goods