mircea_popescu: diana_coman, well, i dunno about redefined. rated 9 here aka l1

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, was linked from his own article, i dunno

mircea_popescu: what can i tell you my bruther, we got problems.

mircea_popescu: and if it doesn't, i daresay the problem's not your slaves.

mircea_popescu: i dun imagine paragraph-select is how people expect to use it.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938308 << this isn't nearly as universal as all that. going by my own practice, sometimes i paraphrase, sometimes i footnote... but the whole discussion's more a case of "when bird flies, wings move, why not airplane". cuz not everything's a bird, what.

mircea_popescu: (subsidiarily, i also want to select inside a logline maybe twice aweek, which is hundred of cases by now)

mircea_popescu: i am pretty sure nobody here ever thought before to ~edit~ their irclogs for ~any reason~.

mircea_popescu: that it is. and i would be concerned if there was no synced logger, too.

mircea_popescu: or to put it another way : a logger confronts the dilemma if whether to sync with history or with other loggers. i don't believe there's need for a rule, it can stand as such.

mircea_popescu: not that i'm against sync-able loggers. but i don't believe all loggers MUST be thusly.

mircea_popescu: i kept dithering back and forth in here because i stupidly never sat down to draw this all out properly and review history etc. but now i have, and that's the story.

mircea_popescu: in order for this system to retain its utility throughout the board, i believe the whole array should be offered to castle owners. thus for deedbot to manage voicing in a castle the owner would have to specify the castle name, what x value he wants, whether lobe 2 is on and if so what threshold y to be used.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938169 << quite. i intend it to be pilot plant for standalone, i'm specifically curious how bad "the bad" is gonna turn out to be.

mircea_popescu: i dunno that i'd want this ; but the experimentally inclined may find it interesting to explore

mircea_popescu: if i make the log say X on my blog, that's my fucking priviledge, it exists on my authority.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938136 << this is quite the idea. i have no expectation trilema log and whoever else's such log be machine-identical.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938134 << can be "easily fixed" in theory because it was dumped in mechanically ; but won't be easily fixed in practice because fu, i'm not changing trilema articles once published.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938078 << now this is so ; i'm quite happy we found out about it actually.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938067 << so the idea is that the flatfile is part of the orig logger ? i misread, i thought it's novel addition.

mircea_popescu: which is why generally when rendering log i tend to preserve nametags per line and the original lines (though not always) and instead insert extra line breaks now and again to paragraph it up.

mircea_popescu: unlike "poetry" ie the socialist shit, where "things look a certain way" with 'verses" (and i'm stuck ha;lf the time dropping it altogether, because it's better absent than fucked), our prosody is actually interesting.

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938061 << this is a long standing problem (not kidding, i been pondering "how to display logs" for a LONG time). generally it seems to me preferable to preserve the original prosody of the author (because yes, this is what this is, "how to break into lines", duh, ancient greek issue)

mircea_popescu: no, tis outta respect. i will take the time to type something out, an old poem, whatever, for similar reasons : some things are worth it. and they get worth it through occasionally, ever so occasionally, doing you that rare and radiant wonder of a favour, where "it turns out" aka you finally deign to fucking notice you were doing something stupid.

mircea_popescu: se, so i have 500 gallon jugs with time lying about.

mircea_popescu: in fact, the reason i take the time to explain how various shits work, unpopular as they may be, is because i put the time in to actually understand how they do in fact work ; and i did that not because i was bored, or because i was desperate to find something to pour some of this time into, i have like a well of time at home and it's overflowing so you gotta put some in all availavble receptacles or else it floods the hou

mircea_popescu: the dichotomy between the subjective life of the subject and the demands of the outside structure ~is creative~. this is specifically the mechanism through which it is creative : "i wonder why it is i want something that these idiots didn't put in". one possible outcome of a correct such evaluation is, indeed, "jesus fuck they're idiots". however, ANOTHER possible outcome is the ~EXTREMELY~ valuble bootstrap out of d-k rec

mircea_popescu: the persuasive universe is actually very much like a fungal infection of the mind : it grows nicely, i'm sure, but in so doing it misuses a fundamental other thing, that actually has a function independent of ever-growing fungal blather.

mircea_popescu: "i thought this was uncontroversial" "yes, that's how it usually goes."

mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, surprise sex is inconvenient" "yes, i'm sure it is"

mircea_popescu: the only available support for such bootstrap is this kind of indicia, "why are my self-perceived needs conflict with my betters' designs". it could, surely, be the case they're fucked in the head. i'm sure they often are.

mircea_popescu: ie, if "selection doesn't work for me" "why not ?" "because what i want to select recurs", give some thought whether indeed "selection is broken and should be fixed". WHY do you want to select something THAT RECURS, and recurs so much it actually doesn't allow you to extend the context slightly, one character at a time, resolving your problem ?

mircea_popescu: for this reason any imanentization (ie, mapping of concepts into reality) will revolve around a "paradigm" / wilful blindness of some kind. "how could i not think of that" is always lulzy -- if you thought of everything your head would explode. and that's a literalism : if you somehow fit all states of its own emptiness into a glass it'd go boom.

mircea_popescu: consider both the positive (no convergence language'd ever have emerged out of "oh, phf did excellent job with logger") and the negative (without "we have these loggers, how do we sync them" nobody'd have ever understood why mp-wp is a better display mechanism than "this shit i just brewed").

mircea_popescu: this whole pile is however a massive lesson in evolution-vs-design thematics & tropes ; that "the function creates the organ" is musky throughout ; the blogger's retrospect ("had i not done x it'd never have occured to me to do y") omnipresent ; and so following.