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cazalla: BingoBoingo, any idea if estwing is still
a good american tool brand or are they rubbish and just trade off the name now?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-07 18:51 mircea_popescu: wait, in some paralel github universe bitcoin crash is actually "
a majority fork" ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, they could hire the girl also, and for the 450k you can get
a 2 bedroom and rent one. this'll work well as you'll never see each other again
mircea_popescu: in order to be
a petty criminal, you must be innumerate. there's no other way.
mircea_popescu: the sort of idiot who'd go into petty crime does so FOR CONVENIENCE. if he was willing to follow check lists he'd go to sv and be
a fucking pm.
mircea_popescu: not
a matter of price,
a matter of all the strings. gotta keep it maintained, tank full, etc. you realise 50% of all arguments among car using negros is "who left the tank empty" ?
mircea_popescu: to them, feinstein is nothing more than any other old bitty. she dun fuck, she dun twerk, she's as interesting as
a printed picture of
a bone is to
a dog.
mircea_popescu: anyway. there was trhat whole puerto rican nationalism slaugther, they got like
a half dozen in the 50s iirc.
mircea_popescu: you keep saying this as fact, then i link you to dead feinsteins, then you forget about it for
a week or two, then back to it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "
a guard" pish. that's where you take the riots, if you're serious about rioting. brick pelt pelosi, feinstein and friends.
mircea_popescu: at this rate they're going to have
a privatized tsa in the bathroom.
mircea_popescu: "oh mr p, wouldn't you love to PAY so some inept schmuck can waste your time with
a barrier on the road and everything ?" "totally!"
ben_vulpes: to make
a car the rumor mill suggests isn't particularly profitable
trinque: somebody did it in
a movie.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not so. below
a certain level (self-reflection), planned and spontaneous project to the same point.
mircea_popescu: full fucking stop. they can't build the "hypertube" or w/e, and just in the same way, they can't build
a fleet of b2s. just, simply, overpoweringly, can not.
mircea_popescu: yes, in the sense door is
a constellation of wood and divine grace.
mircea_popescu: you're welcome to not believe, on ops grounds, "i will not believe enemy is dumb". but that aside, as
a theoretical concern, how the fuck else will you explain "recent models actually worse performing than earlier models" ?
mircea_popescu: literal kabuki, "and then we pretend the man with
a black headband is invisible". exactly the same, "secret".
mircea_popescu: in soviet, maybe. in usg, it's really just
a social game.
mircea_popescu: ~only correct way to understand post-cold-war government is as
a public funded term paper mill. there's
a bunch of people writing the papers and
a bunch of nominally designated "students" "turning their work in".
mircea_popescu: something like that. though i expect they had
a coupla people specially for interfacing with him.
mircea_popescu: from the little actual i've seen, dude's just
a very serious engineer type of the 70s, entirely unequipped to deal with the metrosexual fucktards of the 90s
mircea_popescu: for unexplained reasons not
a very popular/studied/modded chip.
mircea_popescu: wait, in some paralel github universe bitcoin crash is actually "
a majority fork" ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's kinda the thing, they self-flatteringly imagine i ended up here cuz i fell from
a pot, not because i can see through them like so much glass beads.
mircea_popescu: the other moo moo strat, since we're doing moo moo strats, is, of course,
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-07#1694702 : spend
a little time trying to follow
a particular line into some detail, then "totally overwhelm" your betters by pointed questions. cuz you know, they totally don't outthink you on
a regular basis.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform other than the butthurt of matt levine, who apparently holds the irrational impacted belief that usg matters/has
a future against all possibnle evidence, what about that piece ?
mircea_popescu: fixed structure is
a cognitive necessity, from the kuhn-popper theory of paradigma-based research throughout the actual practice of scholastics all the way to
a 10yos fixed structure "composition"
mircea_popescu: o wait, are you saying it's not actually
a butt plug, but something else ?
mircea_popescu: in other news : cutting up
a fresh vanilla bean and leaving the cuttings to sit under costa rican rum qs in
a brown glass bottle results after
a week or so in such an incredible vanilla tincture as the senses can scarcely believe.
mircea_popescu: whereas
a dysfunctional socialist environment will have you chant nonsense in
a circle.
mircea_popescu: and so yes,
a functional commercial environment will have you do some things, such as painting masterpieces and discovering the new world, in preference of others.
mircea_popescu: in this configuration, it spins an axle. in another configuration, it'd have fed
a mold or w/e.
phf: so to revise the original point, markets create additional conditions under which higher payoff is obtained through cooperation in
a situation of conflicting interests. though i'm not quite sure how that applies in the drowning situation, since it's missing the whole exchange of resources
phf: well, those things that i brought up, kinship, religion, they are part of identity. "he's not my brother i won't go out on
a limb" vs "my life's not my own, god told me to help even if i die".
phf: smooth, i suppose you could say that
a raider wouldn't make
a choice to trade, likewise trader doesn't necessarily have the inclination for raiding
mircea_popescu: this doesn't happen just when you want it, but generally. if you're gonna kill the dude drowning to take his underwear, you'll be stuck wearing
a pair of stained underwear which you didn't stain yourself.
mircea_popescu: the problem with payoff is, of course, identity. to quote that splendid film, "when
a man takes an oath, he is holding his soul in his hands, like water. if he opens his fingers then, he shouldn't worry about ever meeting himself again."
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly alf -- teh russkis came up with the following item :
a 20 ton truck with two engines, one powering the left side wheels, the other powering the right side wheels. i thought you should know.
BingoBoingo: 4.
a.1 phf loads salvage module and recovers scarecrow
mircea_popescu: 1. phf is walking down the road ; 2. phf perceives something in river ; 3. phf goes to help ; 4.
a. phf discovers it was scarecrow, unloads helping module ; 4.b. phf discovers it is muscovy and he's from lvov, unloads helping module ; 4.c phf discovers it's his brother AND CARRIES ON.
mircea_popescu: but you're not helping him because he's your brother. you're helping him because you were going to help ; the part where he;s your brother is
a 2nd step, where he doesn't get not-helped for being on do-not-help list.
phf: i understand the reversal (and it's
a neat one) but i don't see how it's supported by anything but itself. you're basically saying that "oh someone's drowning, that's not my brother, fuck im" is what's happening, where's i'm saying "nothing's happening of note, oh it's my brother drowning! i should help him" is what's happening
mircea_popescu: the trick here is the usual "sleeping mind goes backwards through causal-time". the kinship is
a particular shaving of the cooperation field -- you're supposed to help your kin and not help the nonkin. this does not mean "kinship made you help your kin" ; you wer going to help and this told you who NOT to help.
mircea_popescu: cooperation is
a behaviour ; kinship is
a status. they're not compatible in this sense.
mircea_popescu: much in the vein of "hair-grows on face ; we call
a moustache this particular shaving pattern, and sideburns this other shaving pattern" ?
mircea_popescu: so is there any argument against the "cooperation is what happens anyway, there's
a number of known ways to discourage kinds, such as market, faith, kinship, etc" ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, "advanced" folk can't get
a carpool to work, whereas "backwards" folk can drop
a supernumerary child with the first woman/gaggle of children they run into, and it'll work out. "here, take this, i'll take it back tonight".
mircea_popescu: seems the natural basic quanta of cooperation, "making
a new child".
mircea_popescu: phf wouldn't you expect, if market encouraged cooperation, for fucking to be most common in market-driven societies and least common in marketless ones ? whereas europe has
a fertility problem and chuka very much does not ?
phf: if you screw somebody in
a repeated trade, they won't necessarily do trade with you again
mircea_popescu: consider the case of kitty genovese ; or else
a more general, abstracted point : you go into
a field where men are working, in
a rural, traditional, thereby market-clean setting, and i dunno, sayu
a man is drowned in the river and ask for help. they will cooperate, won't they ? whereas if there's
a market going they'll go... "go talk to the market-specialist, we're not in that line of work", yes ?
phf: i wasn't actually thinking to the west, i was treating soviet union as
a self-contained system. the point i was trying to make is that (and this is all very RANDian) in the absence of
a market graph you needed an alternative mechanism to encourage cooperation, which in this case was the propaganda system "real soviet man does X" etc.
mircea_popescu: i know for
a fact kgb had chuka defection directorate because hey, during the groznii siege all the signals folk involved had "experience in the problem".
phf: i understand the point though, my understanding that i haven't evaluated in
a while was that soviet were attempting to solve prisoners dilemma by training "
a soviet man". brain tattooing makes sense in that respect, though my interpretation is generous to the goals
phf: perhaps it's because it doesn't come with
a high pitched, clear voice of
a true pioneer singing about rodina
mircea_popescu: strangely, the us version is
a lot less endearing, perhaps in that it so carefully avoids appearing naive to itself.
mircea_popescu: but see, that's not at all the point. for one thing : all scholarship is nonsense. for the other, soviet school si entirely propaganda, which is to say "prepare organ donors for
a certain way of life". the fucking point of the fixed form 3rd/4th grade composition is to allow the submarginal intellects making up the bulk of the population to tattoo their brains into
a form that'll then allow them to survive, as traffic agents
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this is the problem -- we do SO MANY things. "oh i'm
a father and an employee of the month", says the office plankton. well... also
a consumer, and
a sayer of VERY finely tuned nonsense. wut now.
mircea_popescu: not just the animals, either. the people are SO FUCKING SUSPICIOUS if they lived in lafond's own they'd be shot like twice
a week just "on general principle" to borrow
a tarantinoism. and utterly unaware of it, also.
phf: would it be appropriate if slightly simplified for, say, knuth to get
a algorithms/computation tattoo?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo he slid over the floor at the rate and in the manner of
a tiny tumbleweed being blown by wind
a coupla days ago. i jumped up because wtf, tiny tumbleweeds blown by wind ??!?!
mircea_popescu: ie, "for its purpose" it has easily > 10mn dpi. but for your purpose, i doubt it has
a functional .2 dpi.