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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So I can learn and derp on systems other people aren't counting on
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> y'know, like everybody in, e.g., buenos aires, can << this is wild and unsubstantiated FUD. bad coffee is everywhere in ba, the argentines can't grow their own, and their braindead government won't let them import green beans in enough of a timely fashion to keep them from going stale or molding. i have *had* good cups of coffee there, but even in the nice places the espresso is only casi casi. ☟︎
decimation: I suppose I don't see a difference between analog and digital communication, even in principle
trinque: this of course doesn't absolve gox of being grossly incompetent
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now.
ascii_field: (karpeles doesn't want to eat the nailgun yet, apparently)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1218686 << obvious;ly thewir derpy web2.0 site doesn't load here. how much actual BTC could i get by shorting a billion eth atm, provided of course there were an actual market for the thing which behaved like a market and so i could do this ? ☝︎
shinohai: If you aren't in WoT, you don't exist.
phf: ascii_field: so what's the difference between existing leaky abstractions that don't leak in some meaningful sense and the ones that we decide to introduce?
phf: ascii_field: oh i wan't talking in the abstract, i was thinking in terms of prescriptive specifically when it comes to working on bitcoind
peterl: no, just some derpy schmoe. I thought about sending funny emails to all his friends, but didn't.
peterl: hmm, yeah, I havn't had time to keep up with that, did you use it? I suppose I could resurect it?
ascii_field: trinque: i'll repeat the question - what is the meaning of 'isn't time' here ?
ascii_field: what means, 'isn't time'
trinque: ascii_field: tactically speaking, supposing there just isn't time for antifuse rom?
ascii_field: 'protocol' is when you can't rewrite because you can't unburn a hole.
ascii_field: trinque: i was pointing out that you need a relatively minor (from r&d standpoint) device, that was ~once available~ and isn't today.
ascii_field: but in virtually every case known, it was really a case of 'i won't go in that hole, promise'
phf: well block*.dat are essentially append only, the idea can be emulated by having transaction bits. you write a t bit, you write rest of block, when done flip t bit. on restart you walk backwards until the first flipped bit and you file truncate anything from that point on
ascii_field: trinque: you speak as if this thing didn't eat enough ram and weren't slow enough
mircea_popescu: "it has problems, can't deliver on customer expectations, etc". you see the seeds in the amazon recent lol/
mircea_popescu: much like the olympics they can't aford.
ascii_field: wake me up when they can't afford to mine spamblox any moar.
mircea_popescu: 2 uni profs aren't a threat to the fucking mice in their own lab.
shinohai: "We just launched and are all excited, but one caveat. Transactions don't work."
shinohai: I honestly have no issues with those that do choose to practice religion, just respect the fact that some don't.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't that be a shittier muppet ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, obviously unlike iran they won't cut a deal.
shinohai: I moved away and never looked back. Haven't spoken to anyone in my family in almost 20 years.
trinque: they at least knew the whole world was filled with shit, just weren't sure what kind
trinque: haha, I don't torture the poor folks anymore, keep my heathen ways to myself
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> though I can't claim to have gone through all of them in great detail << o.O so then what have you done ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field just the fact that it was probably determinable with great certainty at age 7 or so that i wouldn't grow up to be mircea_popescu << you think anyone actually wants more of me around ?
mircea_popescu: <jurov> you haven't heard? mp will ban it soon << all stacks must wear burka!
mircea_popescu: jurov just because you posit there's going to be retrospection needed doesn't mean it's either necessarily so or what i said, you know.
funkenstein_: plenty of aether to go around, i think we just don't know how to use it yet
ascii_field: the subject of why every bag of meat on this sorry rock can't have own radio station, to any useful degree, 'will not fit in the margins of this page' unfortunately.
funkenstein_: though I can't claim to have gone through all of them in great detail
ascii_field: just the fact that it was probably determinable with great certainty at age 7 or so that i wouldn't grow up to be mircea_popescu
ascii_field: trinque: i wasn't even speaking of health per se
funkenstein_: i don't think DDOS is going away
jurov: you haven't heard? mp will ban it soon
trinque: and if they don't have the luxury of making that decision, *shrug*
trinque: jurov: as for the culling, wouldn't that be up to the parents that clearly decided to let you live? heh
jurov: lol don't act surprised http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-07-26.log.html#t10:06:45
phf: using linux kernel as the base allows for rapid repurposing of cheap chinese computers, without having to write drive controllers or general kernel hackery. in case of suckless it was probably more to do with audiocards and inertia. at the time when the suckless project started, it wasn't yet obvious how compromised kernel will eventually become, the reaction was mostly to userspace retardation
jurov: they don't want anything to do either.
mircea_popescu: much like i don't make kids, the women make kids. i just kill some of the kids they make.
mircea_popescu: i don't solve problems. i just throw away other people's solutions. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (my isp won't like != 17 either. i will have to send these packets to mircea_popescu by camel.)
mircea_popescu: mkay. i wouldn't be too worried about her fate - it'd cost usg more than it'd cost me to ditch udp.
mircea_popescu: i get it, you want a woman that's transparent and doesn't bleed.
mircea_popescu: no, because it can't check.
asciilifeform: i don't like the fact that i gotta say it in cleartext !
mircea_popescu: decimation except he didn't like the fact yu gotta say where you're sending stuff "because usg snoops it"
decimation: at any rate, the problem isn't udp or tcp, it's the fact that ip packets route without any signature
asciilifeform: i mean, they can't walk in any faster than the 100Mb ethernet into the bldg
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i might. atm not really a big enough deal, whatever, some people can't read trilema for half a day or w/e. but we were discussing the general point.
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking wonder "locales" don't somehow udp.
mircea_popescu: in any case : if it were the rule that udp gets dropped universally, i wouldn't have to have above convo with provider.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very easy to filter: reject anything that isn't a valid gossipd packet addressed to your key
decimation is confused how any criticism of udp doesn't apply directly to any 'higher' ip protocol
mircea_popescu: what the usg does or doesn't do, wants or doesn't want, etc is irrelevant to everything, usg included.
asciilifeform: except that it doesn't
asciilifeform: don't fall for the 'good cop'
decimation: udp can't be easily distinguished, and this is a gossipd-flavor
asciilifeform: and 4) isn't readily and easily flagged and filtered as 't3rr0r1st net' by 90% of world's isp
asciilifeform: what i'd really like to see is what mircea_popescu proposes i use for single-packet auth that 1) isn't udp 2) existing net will reliably route 3) existing os will agree to emit without any new code running as root
asciilifeform: 'back' is 'item is in memory cache but now isn't there when i load, it must have un-happened'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's "back" when you don't keep time yo.
mircea_popescu: yeah this scheme doesn't lend itself to much rss ing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't get to respecify rss eh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i haven't any notion as to ~why~
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if i restart trilema, it doesn't pop them out again
lobbes: which, I guess doesn't store history
mircea_popescu: there wasn't much in the way of sane transportation routes in the fronteer, either.
mircea_popescu: nah. one sticks around because it works. the other because it's the best alternative. you don't like either of them, it's true, but that fact does not alter the reality.
mircea_popescu: i don't see it.
asciilifeform: the times prior to mains current don't count.
mircea_popescu: they're just broadly speaking acultural and unseflwarare enough, unlike the romans, so they don't spend three centuries waxing poetic over this understood situation
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't see this picture where it is absent in us but somehow present in patagonia
mircea_popescu: if you think the dispute as to how internet won't be available in the future in the us comes down to what anyone wants, usg or not usg...
mircea_popescu: usg is arguing that "olympics are bad mkay, not because we can't afford anything, but because <<<gentrification>>>".
mircea_popescu: you are aware the usg can't maintain infrastructure anyway, and if you persist in staying there you will one day connect to b-a via satellite phones provided by, likely, fucking spain.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the link concerned ~infrastructure~. usg is trying so that when i get my signed udp, and try to send it to mircea_popescu, it won't leave my street even.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so then we don't even disagree.
mircea_popescu: im just saying you don't own the moon, is all.
asciilifeform: the infrastructure can't support ~anything~ in its current configuration.
mircea_popescu: i don't care what you need. fuck you and your needs. the infrastructure can't support udp in the current configuration. you don't get udp for this reason.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: you realise UDP is essential for a number of services and that they wouldn't function using TCP, right?
asciilifeform: shinohai: but you don't really need the manual unless you are doing something more clever than anything i've done so far
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2015 01:52:06; asciilifeform: mats: and given that authentication happens on receipt of first packet - with antireplay nonce - unscannable for (you can't tell if a machine is a brick, a live box refusing to relay ping, or a gossip-udp node)
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 10:48:40; jurov: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-byrne-opsec-udp-advisory-00 i had to check it isn't 1st april
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 10:48:40; jurov: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-byrne-opsec-udp-advisory-00 i had to check it isn't 1st april
jurov: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-byrne-opsec-udp-advisory-00 i had to check it isn't 1st april ☟︎☟︎
decimation: don't bother
asciilifeform: i can't bring myself to even try to read this.
asciilifeform: decimation: it isn't an ada or otherwise proofy system
decimation: heh I didn't realize it still existed
asciilifeform: we don't need most of it