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mircea_popescu: because no fucking laywer to date has yet asked a question he didn't know the answer to
asciilifeform: this, famously, is why you don't ever want to give public access to a mechanism which tries to decrypt messages supplied by public
asciilifeform: punkman: i can't find anything that will display this pdf
decimation: but that wouldn't be practical
asciilifeform: can't select.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: didn't say it was an elixir of immortality. just a baseline for literacy
asciilifeform: 'average guy' isn't worth the materials needed to tan his hide
asciilifeform: and Run Moar Binariez You Didn't Build Yourself
trinque: wouldn't be lame to do it as described
jurov: i just wanted to point out that creating new adresses on the fly isn't universally better than generating the from seed ☟︎
Apocalyptic: that is: the hierarchy-deterministic way of computing addresses doesn't weaken at all the signature
Adlai: "can be stolen by people who have the auditor keys" - don't expose mpub, period. bip32 is not designed for auditing [live] wallets
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 22:01:09; assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 20:22:56; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2015#1057738 << it is. people (especially people kinda too lazy to study things in depth) have all sorts of theories about privacy and keep pestering me for special addresses etc. it's a fashion is what it is, one i don't aim to encourage, and i'm stuck because w/e, serving teh customer.
Apocalyptic: didn't investigate if they have a particular form in base 16 or 2
decimation: if you can't understand prng, how are they gonna understanding the elliptical key math, even if they supply their own dice numbers?
Adlai: punkman: fwiw i'm quite sure bip32 doesn't make your addresses less secure, provided you don't leak the key data
shinohai: thx Adlai too many people don't want bitcoin but an *app* for bitcoin
asciilifeform: not like there aren't rng available now
asciilifeform: if you're poor, you 1) don't need this 2) throw fucking dice
Apocalyptic: punkman, maybe HD wallet doesn't mean the same thing for you
Apocalyptic: punkman, I simply don't see the relationship between HMAC-derived addresses and the signature process, more specifically the k-value
ben_vulpes: this is above my pay grade in terms of data structures, but perhaps an opportunity to learn. is there not a data structure available for use that doesn't have to iterate through the whole index to grab the element of interest?
trinque: ben_vulpes: widespread use of indices to deal with the fact that berkdb... ain't a db?
ben_vulpes: how's life, davout? haven't seen you much of late.
ben_vulpes: don't worry about wasted effort. the more people who have it in their head, the better off la serenissima is.
ben_vulpes: isn't processmessages the only thread that writes to the db?
mircea_popescu: i gyess i don't understand how beards work
assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 04:39:08; asciilifeform: i mean, yes, i haven't turned my death ray on db.cpp yet
asciilifeform: because ahahahaha, i wouldn't notice, right.
assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
jurov: !t m f.mpif
trinque: asciilifeform: are you the one weird trick they don't want me to know?
mircea_popescu: you left the tank empty deliberately didn't you.
asciilifeform: did they think i don't have a record of the submitted tailored moduli ?
mircea_popescu: well this isn't very smart then, is it.
asciilifeform: and dr. evil doesn't like it to be there,
mircea_popescu: mostly doing pest control or i don't remember what nonsense.
BingoBoingo: pywallet isn't manually
shinohai: asciilifeform: u don't just add keys manually ?
shinohai: it's no big deal bitcoind doesn't have importprivkey to me
BingoBoingo: Also US really doesn't do much in the way of putting spent fuel in coffins, Tends to leave it swimming in pools, just outside of reactor housings
asciilifeform: all living things 'are until they aren't'
mircea_popescu: up until it... isn't.
asciilifeform: as of now, their shit not only doesn't stink, but is made of monocrystalline diamond as far as the dean is concerned
mircea_popescu: up until they aren't.
assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 14:20:38; mircea_popescu: i guess alf's observation re kalash bullets, copper and izhevsk is so difficult to grok and utterly advanced people just can't wrap their heads around the fact that copper's not really the only superiority metal.
decimation: but that ain't gonna happen because it would cause $bil in paperwork to be generated
asciilifeform: in precisely the same way as a cpu where buffer overflows don't happen
decimation: they just aren't allowed to be built
assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 14:47:17; mircea_popescu: yet somehow in their minds the idea doesn't form that... hello ? anyone home ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-08-2015#1220842 << paging tlp! the au folks aren't trying to win, they are trying to 'feel winners' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in fairness it hasn't been studied too much yet. who knows.
assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 14:35:30; mircea_popescu: that's all i was saying really. making your own rare metals may work, but it won't be this century.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-08-2015#1220742 << i don't expect to live to see an ingot of hafnium in person. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yet somehow in their minds the idea doesn't form that... hello ? anyone home ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the x per day bla bla figure is spurious. obviously there's a shitton of energy there. the problem is we don't yet have the filters.
mircea_popescu: that's all i was saying really. making your own rare metals may work, but it won't be this century. ☟︎
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
mircea_popescu: (i have the math done on the difference between being exposed to a meltdown outside and being exposed to ingested material, if the obvious difference's aren't obvious i can dig it up)
mircea_popescu: 't make usg's shit not stink somehow, magically.
decimation: yeah, it's one of those 'we could safely use nuclear to supply electricty to everyone but we don't because reasons' situation
mircea_popescu: yes. the fact that they can't currently be extracted efficiently from electronics scrap speaks volumes.
decimation: the challenge with rare earths isn't finding them or digging them up, it's sorting them and processing them
mircea_popescu: i guess alf's observation re kalash bullets, copper and izhevsk is so difficult to grok and utterly advanced people just can't wrap their heads around the fact that copper's not really the only superiority metal. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and you simply can't beat a value proposition like "either have europium or not be able to display the color red - it's that simple".
decimation: gold is nice because it doesn't oxidize, just sits
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla interesting. tho i don't get enough from that article to figure out how the fuck it'd work
punkman: shinohai: it doesn't work like that
asciilifeform: 'wat,no i didn't'
mircea_popescu: so you wouldn't see it now.
mircea_popescu: can't run such on a tiny system tho, obv.
BingoBoingo: Doesn't advertise version number?
mircea_popescu: anyway there's a reason for the magic numbers too, something to do with theoretical maximums of a 1mb block but i don't recall what THAT was either.
asciilifeform: i don't see an lg_max here
mircea_popescu: lol what, you thought i thought it didn't ?
mircea_popescu: so it isn't.
cazalla: punkman, what a lost generation, can't even kill a chicken without getting out their phone to post it on fkn instagram
asciilifeform: ^ apparently doesn't work
trinque: asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: is there a particular reason we didn't set that knob to maxint ?
BingoBoingo: And then it didn't
asciilifeform: i mean, yes, i haven't turned my death ray on db.cpp yet ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: is there a particular reason we didn't set that knob to maxint ?
BingoBoingo: punkman: Unwedged 0.7-ish stator still isn't anywhere near this sync'd yet
decimation: I can't enumerate them all, but the network code, for instance, runs in a different thread than the db code for instace
decimation: folks can't be bothered to actually think about how to design things without collisions
trinque: because that didn't cut it
BingoBoingo: So it's more "non-deterministic behavior" and 40,000 probably just wasn't enough DB locks and objects to fix it
decimation: hopefully this will influence apple to turn osx into a more adult unix, but I wouldn't hold my breath
punkman: "Why don't you use short keys? They scale better"
trinque: then from the other angle, maybe she looked great in that dress, and the neckbeards couldn't take the heat
trinque: so... don't!
mircea_popescu: anyway. why can't "coding like a girl" mean you write good documentation, for instance ?
danielpbarron: but we need the explored resources anyway; it's not like i'm wasting time doing somethign i wouldn't have done otherwise
BingoBoingo: My favorite part of reading my debug.log is getting to see all the transactions that don't make it to the mempool
danielpbarron: well i don't have a function; i have a formula
punkman: so if Hearn trusts in the Gospel of Satoshi, why isn't he running 0.1 or 0.5.3? "No it wasn't. That is something you invented yourself much later. "Small devices" isn't even defined anywhere, so there can't have been any such understanding. The actual understanding was the opposite. Satoshi's words: ..."
punkman: Q: Is there a Django Girls for men? A: There doesn't seem to be a need for Django Boys at the moment.
BingoBoingo: K, moar locks doesn't seem to be fixing wedge
trinque: once you can internalize a lie like "don't judge" you're broken
punkman: trinque: don't judge