asciilifeform: when you drive over a hole, it also doesn't usually speak and explain why it decided to be a hole
asciilifeform: oddly enuff it is cop who 'explains', 'от имени Союза Советских Социалистических Республик , i now get in your way , for your having exceeded 10 times the speed of an unladen snail on this tuesday...'
asciilifeform: i dun have nearly enuff contact with the tv insanity
asciilifeform: sometimes i wonder if it's actually mircea_popescu working without gloves on the hot smoking factory floor of the insane asylum, and asciilifeform somehow is the one looking down from dirigible
asciilifeform: waitasec since when does judge 'explain'
asciilifeform: then item went to shit, for general usgification 1990s reasons
asciilifeform: gatt started out presiding over a usg laboratory where spacecraft ran lisps, worked properly, etc.
asciilifeform: to which naggum , not surprisingly , answered 'shuddup bitch, i am making money with payware lisps, my systems work, go be emo chick somewhere else'
asciilifeform: gatt (renamed himself, today garrett ) wrote a large pile of 'lisp is dead, woe is me, once there were things but never again' 'emo' screeds on comp.lang.lisp
asciilifeform: ( there are salvageable organs in the scheme corpse. but there is not imho a usable per-se schemetron. )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766487 << one of the recurring motifs in the naggum threads is the scheme thing. scheme got stuck in its development (politically, rather than technically, it got orphaned and lacked a mircea_popescu at a critical time in its gestation ) and ended up in the hands of 'perfect circles' people☝︎
asciilifeform: ( and when this actually happens, it is as part of a great catastrophe , not something to be cheered )
asciilifeform: but no, nobody gets to reinvent in the idjit-schoolboy-dreams sense of 'and then they forgot how to do it and i Show Them and Become Newton' or whichever
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766477 << it's considerably moartragic in light of naggum's biography. he went to usa as a young man because he heard there were individualists there , and joined an aynrand cult , and burned out, came back☝︎
asciilifeform: i suspect mircea_popescu nailed the orig problem in the old article where 'and then they began to began to imagine that the machines are alive'
asciilifeform: trinque: legend was that germans cut it. and d00d was sent to fix it, but was shot, and as he bled out he put it in his teeth so as to clamp it in death.
asciilifeform: ople who trusted you, the people that loved you, to some grifter or other. You will be remembered as Adonis-number.'
asciilifeform: 'Irrespective of you, entirely and in all respects, what will happen is that you will meet a grifter and have a child, and that child will be disaster. Pain, sadness, hunger, death and human suffering of proportions strictly commensurate to your "drive", to your "ambition", to the clarity of your "vision" and the purity of your intentions. And we won't care. Nobody will care. You will be remembered as that shill that delivered the pe
asciilifeform: there was also an old mircea_popescu article about 'grifters'
asciilifeform: in modern usa called 'goodcop-badcop'
asciilifeform watched ^ just nao on a box with 0 audio... interesting
asciilifeform: once instead of '2 d00dz' it's an 'institution' , it gets chair-warmers, diversirasts, whole shebang
asciilifeform: this is what i meant in 'and then the hump of the bellcurve came for it'.
asciilifeform: 'adobe' was originally 2 d00dz , iirc ; ditto crapple. the transformation into fungi happened at some later point
asciilifeform: ( is there a technical root of the cancers after all ? or is it simply the 'monkeys inherit the temple, and it doesn't matter how temple was built' phenomenon ? both ? )
asciilifeform: i'm curious re the 'they all grow up into the same thing if given the chance' item.
asciilifeform: all things are born, flower, wither, die.
asciilifeform: i dun have a mechanized pill against this.
asciilifeform: then the hump of the bellcurve came for it.
asciilifeform: specifically re postscript --when it was new, it was every bit as clean and orthogonal as, say, ffacalc.
asciilifeform: i dunno that this is false. but seems to resemble what i said re revolutions killing civilizations -- that errything senesces , bloats, dies in the end.
asciilifeform: and it is a professional hazard asciilifeform is quite aware of on own skin.