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mircea_popescu: and what's the eggcartons made out of, that they stapled to their walls, so we don't hear the trills ?
asciilifeform: ( but also possible that asian trilema is in fact 50x bigger and reading and laughing at the lot of us as we speak )
mircea_popescu could certainly be wrong ; but it certainly couldn't be the case that i'd be wrong in such a way "as nobody could ever know".
mircea_popescu: seems to me they're mining our coin. just like before.
asciilifeform: 'where are the rembrandts' eh
mircea_popescu: if you'd be right, we'd have discovered a #trilema not twice the size (as yellow man pop vs white man pop) but >20 times the size (because hey, efficiency, yes ?). and by size i do not mean headcount.
mircea_popescu: yes. but montezuma has no idea what he's talking about.
asciilifeform: betcha that's exactly what montezuma said 'you got cannon, yea whatever, coincidence of coincidentals'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in exactly the sense snow you piss on "is pretty good at copying the color while discarding the wetness".
mircea_popescu: it becomes a success when "the iron! my god, the iron!" say the locals upon beholding the franks.
asciilifeform: from my perch seems like the rice people are pretty good at copying the irons while discarding the derrida.
mircea_popescu: a large, bureaucratic state existed before -- incas had it too. it is not a success just because it gets a lot of cows to be docile.
mircea_popescu: at no other point did it exist to any degree.
mircea_popescu: china exists briefly today for copying white man culture.
mircea_popescu: in the failures.
mircea_popescu: the merits don't matter, the problem is that literally, there.is.nothing.else.possible.
asciilifeform: where wouldja put the confucian rice kingdoms in this scheme ?
mircea_popescu: and in this sense, the opponents of multiculturalism are deeply fucktarded (as the proponents see them) in attempting to argue the merits.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile multiculturalism failed not on the merits of the idea, but because there is no iron whatsoever to be had. it's either white man culture or stupidity highway.
mircea_popescu: ie, industrialization worked because it's a good idea ~and also~ because there was coal AND iron available superficially. and where the latter not satisfied, such as aztec empire, not worked.
mircea_popescu: specifically, the ~notion~, bereft of any meat, as a skeletal abstraction only, that "mixing improves overal outcomes" ran into the reality that the only available alternative to white man's culture is nation-of-africa powered militant idiocy.
asciilifeform: plox to expand?
mircea_popescu: i am by now well persuaded that this is a place where it ~didn't~ happen.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 14:27 mircea_popescu: there is no, strictly speaking, reason that iron MUST be provided on the surface of a planet just like the earth. it ~could~, very well, have simply gone through a place poor in planetoids and ended up entirely iron free on the surface. but it did not.
mircea_popescu: do you recall the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-28#1759568 discussion ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from personal observation -- seems that they're the pantsuit vanguard
mircea_popescu: mulatto chicks as a fenotype provide the members of the remarkable stupid chick group almost exclusively.
mircea_popescu: if it's not evident by now, there's pretty strong statistical correlation between loud, outspoken, militant idiocy and skin tone.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the daily luls, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Xmj4x/?raw=true
asciilifeform: possibly tricky from technical pov, tho, you dun wanna disperse
asciilifeform: ( and finally a 'killer app' for that airburst neutron-optimized warhead.. )
trinque: where is the environmentalist outcry for nuking the congo, I ask. ☟︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/12/after-a-weekend-in-hiding-macron-emerges-from-his-hole-to-piss-people-off-again/ << Qntra -- After A Weekend In Hiding Macron Emerges From His Hole To Piss People Off Again
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=102 << Bimbo.Club -- TMSR Log Summary - 11/19/2018
mircea_popescu: ah, but there's such a thing as a noble mold.
asciilifeform spent yrs in mold-infested flats in usa, these smelled nuffing at all like civilization at any point
BingoBoingo: There's a couple places near the Brasilero border that do see the occasional pulgada of the white stuff
asciilifeform: afaik it dun snow in BingoBoingostan tho
BingoBoingo: I mean as in angle, no way the local homes could take much snow
asciilifeform: i bet pitch also in that cocktail.
BingoBoingo: Well, the big stylstic difference between new and old country is the lack of pitch on these roofs
asciilifeform: i dun think there's anywhere in e.g. usa where you could smell it, even if it were there you couldn't pick it up past the exhaust gas and garbage
asciilifeform: when i was in timis i walked around and, among other things... smelled the houses. it passed litmus. ( even tho last time i smelled the magic smell was 25y ago ! )
asciilifeform: they have a smell ( typically gotta walk in the front gate, but sometimes can even test right outside )
BingoBoingo: There's quite of few of those within a couple blocks of the habitation unit
asciilifeform: far as asciilifeform goes, if it dun have a carriage gate built to 18th c spec, it's favela
BingoBoingo: The churches are how you evaluate whether a barrio was once a town or if it is a new espansion favela
asciilifeform: it beats the shit out of cr, seems like, tho, ~errything mircea_popescu posted outside of own house looked iirc like ~africa
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yea i saw 0 from that tower that passed isCivilized()
BingoBoingo: But most everything outside of this photo's coverage is post 1920's construction, and post 1950's especially http://bingology.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/DAG/1.jpg
BingoBoingo: Then in the center of most barrios there's a historical core surviving from when the barrios were wee little towns
BingoBoingo: It lacks beach and thusly gets to stay afro barrio
BingoBoingo: Nah, they built that arch in designated afro barrio from the start
asciilifeform: they surrendered their decent arch to 'afro' ?!
BingoBoingo: During your trip we didn't have much occasion to venture into the AfroUruguayo barro or the old city
asciilifeform: ( in usa, typically 0 )
asciilifeform: but asciilifeform's traditional heuristic is 'what % of city loox like that'
BingoBoingo: Except the A/A on the balconito would be Panavox
BingoBoingo: There's entire streets in barrio sur and Palermo built like that
BingoBoingo: Kinda like Fallout happened IRL and here's this city on the edge of the world the missed out
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the architecture here has its own charm.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Barrio Carrasco where the expo was is considerably in the White Suburban style. Drive-thrus and parking lots everywhere
BingoBoingo: Anyways, now I have to explain she was seeing Argentina's version of my barrio trying to compensate for its lack of beach, while Argentina in general is more like her barrio.
asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu had a photo of argentine orc clothesline slowly pulling the nose off a gargoyle or sumthing to that effect )
asciilifeform actually agrees there, buenosaires arch is palpably moar 'white man' than in BingoBoingostan imho. 'while supplies last'.
BingoBoingo: And today I learned there is a "Highland" in Indiana too
BingoBoingo: And so the Peruana has returned from from Argentina with stories of "Todo es mas linda ahí, hay subte..."
mircea_popescu: that person, could be sent to qatar, as it were.
mircea_popescu: (yes, i'm kinda fishing for someone to go "it's 13 x 17 and you know, you're cheating by picking these, illustrating human stupidity not objective hardness".)
diana_coman: it certainly is the first "jump"
diana_coman: uhm, eleven-ness was 232 sort of thing i.e. ..ah, I see vs 223
mircea_popescu: so they spend most of the time trying to fit 11 into it, then they lose it.
diana_coman: I kind of suspect it's either pressure on the spot or people not really used to mental maths
diana_coman: come to think of it re 221 I don't get it; even without a calc, still: 2 no because odd, 3 no because 2+2+1=5, 5 no because 1 at end, 7 no because 21, then 11, 11 no because 22, 1, 13 takes a bit perhaps but...
diana_coman tends to err on the side of "no way are they going to kill my talk on THIS"
diana_coman: well, they obv had their laptops and whatnot, so yeah, I counted on "with calcs" hence larger
mircea_popescu: ah, im talking no calcs, at most napkin.
diana_coman: but uhm, 13 is the 6th number max one would try; with a calc at hand, it can't take more than 2 minutes
mircea_popescu: fwiw, /me has settled on 221 as the perfect number to build "what is asym crypto" around. experimentally, NOBODY knows it's 13 * 17 nor manages to find out.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I was expecting them to be even harder to get to so overall I'm quite pleased with it; now if at least one of them actually *does* something too as a result, that'd be already bonus
mircea_popescu: diana_coman honestly, the summary very acceptable, detailed and so on. just, you're missing out on a possible fanbase!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that might be it re mic - while I can certainly screech if try, I usually don't; never had problems with audience not hearing me but the recording ugh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had a fella like that. used no mic. and would detonate a balloon with h2+o2 at the start of each session, to get folx awake
diana_coman: ahahah, that was "compilers" for us
asciilifeform: i did not have many lectures like that
diana_coman: basically I could have a chat with them all and I know their faces already without any trouble
asciilifeform: aaah that'd explain why no mic
diana_coman: they were "supposed to be 40" I've been told afterwards
asciilifeform: in 500 seat hall, no way in hell is prof gonna be heard without mic ( the days of profs having 'operatic' voice as job qualification are long gone )
mircea_popescu: 2000s went away, to be replaced by 2010s and soon enough 2020s.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw 'lapel mic' was standard issue even at asciilifeform's uni in early 2000s. so i have nfi re the brits
diana_coman: but yeah, it can't be that much; anyways, it's done, not as if I'm running after making presentations, ugh;
asciilifeform: speaking of optics, asciilifeform replaced the sad webcam thing bolted to the torture room iron pole with a modern-day 25megapixel thing. should make for some decent shots once i get that bolix...
diana_coman: yeah, I did not even consider getting the gear myself - if they weren't so inept re org I'd have just ask the uni to provide, wtf
mircea_popescu: could also get yourself a hat put one of those car cameras on it.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how into this you are, but if you like it might as well gear up.
mircea_popescu: can get those too, ten bux or so, with a wireless connection.
mircea_popescu: a lavaliere thing ?
diana_coman: basically the only time it worked fine it was with a mic attached and that was it
diana_coman: but how clear; well, at any rate I can always try it again, won't hurt; I *did* consider it but remembered last time I cursed at such a "recording" and ...