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asciilifeform: jurov: only a matter of time
kakobrekla: is that causing the diff?
jurov: asciilifeform no tthey want to embrace and extend grub, too
assbot: BitBet (S.BBET) November 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xBo9zP )
jurov: and of course, this is the moment i discover conflicting information
asciilifeform: check out where the fuckers say 'grub [bootloader] should detect an impending fsck' - because it is the responsibility of the entire planet, they think, to compensate for their idiocy
jurov: and i forgot to process them on coinbr
kakobrekla: aha its me then, classic.
kakobrekla: its been fixed for the tax i think
jurov: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET says dividend was 1.44548619 , but monthly report and my records say 1.45215309
kakobrekla: jurov were they paid out on mpex?
asciilifeform: 'Please could we stick to the technical aspects of this problem. Attempts to apportion responsibilty rarely lead anywhere.'
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: that was a quote
jurov: kakobrekla: ^ why S.MPOE/S.BBET isn't there since october?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you must run a tight ship
asciilifeform: 'My experience of running Linux on my personal local interactive (rather than server) systems over the past eighteen years leads me to believe that the long-term benefit of *prophylactic* fsck invocations triggered by mount-count or interval-since-check is approximately zero, since *those* invocations of fsck have never discovered FS corruption on my systems.'
asciilifeform: jurov: nah this one's further in the thread
assbot: How to Be an Expert in a Changing World ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDFYSG )
ben_vulpes: http://paulgraham.com/ecw.html << run many models; run as many evaluations on those models as is practical and reweight the decisionmaking balance regularly; most ideas are bad ideas so try to find the smart people. did i miss anything?
jurov: A: Don't be immature jerk and learn to live with results of your actions.
jurov: Q. This does not help because I want to stop one that has started. This is like uninterruptible Windows 8 updates!
jurov: A: You can go back in time and add a kernel parameter
jurov: is anyone actually competent to herd trillions of transistors?
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asciilifeform: 'little' being the size.
thestringpuller: "little malice" sounds cute like a puppy tearing up the pillows
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: or a lot of malice in the case of heartbleed
asciilifeform: the best place to hide a little malice is a gigantic pile of incompetence. ☟︎
decimation: asciilifeform: I suspect more incompetence than malice, but it's still a good point
decimation: yeah it's a good point. there is a vast difference between 'source is open, could read' and 'design is obvious, fits in head'
asciilifeform: as they have in fact been demonstrated to do on many past occasions.
asciilifeform: decimation: another thing is that intel et. al. are not honest actors and there would be every reason to suspect the physical product and documentation to diverge in arbitrarily malicious ways.
asciilifeform: doesn't matter how thoroughly the thing is published.
asciilifeform: decimation: there is a good reason to doubt that a sufficiently gnarly turd can ever be considered 'open'
decimation: asciilifeform: either from ore or paying the ransom required to get intel et. al. to completely open the design for a chipset
decimation: asciilifeform: there's no way in hell someone could create a 'free and open' laptop like that for less than a few $100 mil
cazalla: more like they want equal outcome
cazalla: i think we need more womens too https://twitter.com/Catheryne_N/status/545650643759669250
cazalla: ben_vulpes, i like how they blur the name but leave the avatar making it easy to find with google image search http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fkcQBH9yWJIJ:instagram.com/dontrunup+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=ubuntu#
mats: brutal takedown:(
asciilifeform: 'but we tried! we oughta get points'
dignork: in fact they are right - their work indeed might be both free and open.
dignork: well, grassroots naive engineering, they asume doing minimal amount of integration work ona product, makes it 'open' 'free' etc.
asciilifeform: just that it is being specifically pushed, with conscious malice, as 'auditable', 'open', and even 'resistant to supply chain attacks'
asciilifeform: dignork: nah, the linked board is at least useful for something around the house (it's a generic arm-based microcomputer)
asciilifeform: https://www.crowdsupply.com/inverse-path/usb-armory << another mega-lol. trust our magical trust chip, infused with powerful all-purpose trust juice !
Adlai: could they pick a name that doesn't remind me of mitochondrially transmitted religions?
asciilifeform: no mention of this on the site, that i can see
asciilifeform: incidentally, that thing contains the ubiquitous RTL8111 (ethernet) chip
asciilifeform: 'Purism Installs TOR by Default' << l0l! cherry on the cake!
asciilifeform: (for those unfamiliar with the subject, 'microcode' is best imagined as a kind of 'piano roll' of toggles which get flipped when a particular instruction is encountered by cpu. this in turn actually cranks the ALUs, pipeline stages, all the other familiar components.)
asciilifeform: in reality - not at all the same.
asciilifeform: supposedly the same items
asciilifeform: ever wonder how intel sells to both usg and plebes ?
asciilifeform: 'So, sure, it's pure to build without the microcode blob, which means in reality that you're deciding to use the microcode blob *already embedded in the CPU*. And, on many new CPUs, the one that comes with the CPU has issues that mean you won't get past DRAM init. And, if you do get past DRAM init and boot, you've got a CPU that may have subtle errors and corrupt memory.' << this is an interesting and little-known fact
asciilifeform: who wants to buy this? down's syndrome cases ?
asciilifeform: 'the Management Engine... is a separate microcontroller embedded in the PCH and has a full network stack, has access to DMA and other nasty things. The firmware is signed by Intel and verified at each boot by the microcontroller, and if the firmware signature fails to verify correctly, the x86 cpu will not be allowed to boot... We must get that freed by Intel' << lol!!!
kakobrekla: hmm, i wonder if i seen this before?
kakobrekla: back out to new \clean" output addresses in a random order, or at random times.
kakobrekla: many users, routes them all through a single mixing address, and dispenses them
kakobrekla: canonical solution to this problem is a mixer that receives \dirty" Bitcoins from
asciilifeform: can't resist pointing out that 'mostly open' machine is not unlike mostly-turd-free dinner
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/12/four-bitcoin-based-projects-from-mit-students/ <<< beyond me to gauge whether good or not, perhaps someone *cough* bingoboingo wru *cough* might know better, just a bunch of links really
asciilifeform: 1) they don't build 2) you need winblows even to try, and the entire build scheme consists of winblows 'bat' files.
asciilifeform: anyone here ever try actually building any of the supposedly 'open' sources ever put out by intel ?
asciilifeform: 'We are working with Intel to allow us to scrub, release, and maintain the source for this, but haven’t finalized that yet. We are devoted to freeing this binary.' << pigs will fly.
asciilifeform: 'Purism is manufacturing the motherboard, and screen printing the keyboard.' << piece of shit. printed key marks - come off.
Adlai: oh is this the evidence + objections?
Adlai: hmm, dunno. some book about assange mentioned that wikileaks was redacting sensitive info in documents from day one.
assbot: Julian Assange on Snowden, disliking Google, and his “inevitable” freedom | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1vbR73v )
mats: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/julian-assange-on-snowden-parallels-why-hes-anti-google-and-inevitable-freedom << if ars is to be believed
mats: p sure that was snowden you're talking about
Adlai: whatever happened to the digest-redact-encrypt model of leakage chumpioned by assange et al?
cazalla: it's all good, gonna just post it up and people can come to own conclusions
mats: or is that not what you're talking about
cazalla: seeing bingoboingo is not around atm, anyone able to lend me their technical expertise on a document?
kakobrekla: i thought for a second it was that other thing that also looks like mac.
assbot: Librem 15: A Free/Libre Software Laptop That Respects Your Essential Freedoms | Crowd Supply ... ( http://bit.ly/1wA7gE8 )
jurov: ;;later tell PeterL will check
thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: that's what I like to hear.
PeterL: ;;later tell jurov did CoinBR not pass through december dividends for S.MPOE and S.BBET?
Apocalyptic: redditards can ask for whatever they want and keep on luring themselves to the illusion of relevance
thestringpuller: the redditards are beginning to ask for hardfork: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2pvhs3/we_are_moving_towards_1mb_average_block_size_very/
assbot: Objet non trouv&eacute; ! ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6uSCq )
mats: http://dept-info.labri.fr/~denis/Enseignement/2008-IR/Articles/01-futex.pdf << futexes are tricky
mats: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~hestness/papers/bressoud-hypervisor-ft.pdf << hypervisor-based fault tolerance
mats: http://www.scs.stanford.edu/nyu/02fa/sched/xfs.pdf << scalability in the xfs file system
mats: now i can read these papers ive been putting off
mats: ive got three weeks off
Vexual: id never heard that kraftwerk
Vexual: shout out to punk for the excellent interface too
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Vexual: one can't just look at the tits and get the required feedback
Vexual: people arent cows tho
asciilifeform: who ever thought of asking 'the people'
asciilifeform: quite the same creature as the old south vietnam