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Vexual: thinking "why can't i do
this at home?!?!?"
Vexual: theyr're
the ones crying and laughing into
their grapefruit juice
Vexual: Just like Orwell describing
the lingering smell of
turpentine as he writes of
the atmosphere of
the poor quarters.
Vexual: yes,
the bits
that get left out are always interesting
BingoBoingo: Is MP slowly
turning into a wooden soldier?
cazalla: devthedev,
they likely awarded it
to a friend,
that's usually how
those competitions go
devthedev: cazalla: I'm quite surprised you didn't win
the Changetip contest during
the Bitcoinbowl
cazalla: i imagine litecoin bagholders won't be
too happy about being back at #4 according
to coinmarketcap ha
BingoBoingo: While Obala is busy inventing ISIS, Kirchner is doing great work by saving
the world from
the specter of shit eating Jewish werewolves
assbot: President of Argentina adopts Jewish godson
to 'stop him
turning into a werewolf' - Americas - World -
The Independent ... (
http://bit.ly/1Bfmi1D )
BingoBoingo: The Reciever
throwing a pass
to
the Quarterback?
BingoBoingo: Yeah. My favorite part was
the NC State
trick plays.
bitstein: Right? And from your recap, I'm glad
that
they were able
to help bring attention
to a celebrated American
tradition with
two
teams
that seem
to really have a love of
the game.
BingoBoingo: I just figured someone had
to go over
the product Bitpay was sponsoring.
BingoBoingo: bitstein: Saw you enjoyed
the Qntra Bitcoin Bowl recap.
davout: kind of afraid
to
test
davout: webchat should be usable again
then
b00lcrap: who is
the mastermind behind
this late 90s attack.
b00lcrap: even if i get ddosed i mean
they couldnt possibly make my internet any worse
davout: yeah, i'm implying
that it shouldn't be *that* surprising for a PDF
davout: BingoBoingo: i heard some webpages actually do
that
too
assbot: Terrifying: PDFs
that displays
totally differently on
three different readers; different again on printing. PGP sign only
text files! /hashtag/31c3?src=hash
ben_vulpes: so
there's a really particularly good argument for
tiny blocks.
Vexual: surely
two gives you
two ways
to describe
that you are
that person
Vexual: yeah, i'm a glass half full kinda
thing
Vexual: so
twice as many ways in?
danielpbarron: yes, someone could hijack your gribble account
through either authentication method
Vexual: what do you mean about attack vector? losing control of
the address?
Overand: danielpbarron: in case you care, i registered an address
too
kakobrekla: anyway now i see my week wasnt all
that bad.
Overand: What good is a one-way
transfer?
Overand: and
that's at
the current blockchain rate
Overand: but getting
that across
the *world* would
t ake a lot of power
Overand: Anyway,
the current blockchain with error coding and such could probably reasonably fit into a 20k wide channel
Overand: though
they're mostly working with relatively
tiny bandwidth digital modulation
Overand: man,
tempting
to go ask on
the FreeDV / Codec2 mailing list
Overand: so
that 27 kilobit data rate is probably - yeah - in
that 12khz am
decimation: 16 kHz is probably
the max
that you will get allocated politically
decimation: yeah and it would require many kilowatts
to sustain a large coverage area. and since
the ionosphere varies over
the course of a day, one ideally would need multiple
transmitters with multiple frequencies
Overand: though per wikipedia,
they can shoehorn 700 kilobits worth of bandwidth into a 100khz channel
Overand: decimation: DRM's highest bitrate seems
to be about 27 kilobits
decimation: I'm
thinking more of a mesh network
than a point-to-point
decimation: I
think what shortwave would be better for would be a
transaction network
decimation: at any rate, I'm not sure
that shortwave is really suited for blockchain broadcast unless one had a really big
transmitter (and more importantly - government-allocated bandwidth)
decimation: there's one in brazil
that is reliable
too
Overand: (a lot more antenna
than your coke machine is likely
to have)
decimation: there used
to be a
transmitter in nova scotia
that came in well
Overand: that was with like, 40 feet of antenna up a
tree
Overand: haven't
tried since i improveed my antenna situation
Overand: and yeah. i've never gotten a DRM broadcast reliably here in
the US, but, who knows
decimation: but you need a bigass
transmitter on one end
Overand: but it's suboptimal. you ever
tried
to receive DRM reliably?
Overand: satellites are a better candidate for
this
Overand: it depends on
the spectrum you're willing
to use
decimation: but
they could sustain
the kind of bitrates required
decimation: most shortwave broadcasters limit
their DRM
to 14 kHz
decimation: yeah, it depends how many
transactions per block
Overand: per bitcoin.it wiki,
transactions are about 500bytes, running at 7tps, so
that';s ~3500 bytes/sec or (humorously) 28,000 bits per second
decimation: the block contains a list of
transactions, up
to
the max block size, plus
the hash, plus some other stuff
decimation: there's only one block
that clears every 10 minutes right?
decimation: I
think it would be possible
to fit
the blockchain into a 2400 bps channel
Overand: What's
the current data rate like?
decimation: at any rate, it's been discussed as a possible means
to distribute
the bitcoin blockchain and/or
transactions
decimation: Overand: as for 'replacing
the internet', I suppose it depends on what
those 7 billion people have
to say
Overand: Anyway, point being I'm not a
total idiot when it comes
to
this.
Overand: erm... maybe some SSB on 80, but
that was same-continent
Overand: i don't
think i've worked 80 down
Overand: nor for ~7 billion people
to communicate with each other.
Overand: It's just not a great candidate for replacing
the entire internet
xanthyos: i'd rather let
them waste
their money
Overand: They're a nonprofit with decent people
there, if you want
them
to stop, just drop
them an e-mail.
xanthyos: i paid
the 8 dollars
to not use it for another decade.
Overand: That's a great callsign,
though.
Overand: And yet I'm pretty sure I've done more on
the air
than you have.
xanthyos: Overand: did you get your general before or after
they dropped
the 18 wpm morse code requirement
Overand: I'd stick
to VHF/UHF/etc if you're
talking about medium-throw distance
Overand: It certainly not 'reliable,' and it's not a great way
to get anything of any reasonable bandwidth anywhere
Overand: Shortwave's fine, but it's subject
to a
ton of ionospheric stuff.
kakobrekla: for
that you need shortwave, not optics.
Overand: You know,
the whole "running fiber optic cable between mud huts after [insert emergency/collapse/rapture/disease/singularity]"
thing.
Overand: When I'm giving an overview, I like
to couple
that with
the
tech stuff.
Overand: There are a number of schools for
that, but I meant it in
the general sense.