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ben_vulpes: the point being
that one shouldn't be allowed
to fire off an order and
then immediately its cancellation just
to see
the market response?
mircea_popescu: they actually have a point, albeit a finnicky one and meanwhile
the world fell from under
the sort of place where such;d be entertained.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes:
the notion
that an order once placed must live on until filled is pretty lulzy <<<
that's not what's going on
there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: anyone wanting
to hire 30 inventors needs his head checked <<< and what could you do for
them ?
ben_vulpes: lolno, even my dreams aren't
that grand.
ascii_modem: ben_vulpes: if you were
thinking of physical glass
tty - sadly i no longer own one
ascii_modem: bad example?
think of every 'intellectual narcotic' or whatever folks call it now
ben_vulpes: subject of
terminals, may i ask what
terminal you use, asciilifeform?
ben_vulpes: <ascii_modem> perl and
the like cannot really die;
the human folly
that makes
them irresistible for some folks - is immortal << not
to mention at
the heart of so many
terminals.
ascii_modem: hell, people still read
thomas aquinas etc
cazalla: mircea_popescu, dja mean qntra or gaw has been largely ignored ? <<< i meant qntra but it was like
the 2nd post i made so sorta makes sense not many people read it
mircea_popescu: but people in
the 120 and over range
tend
to wish
to followalong at home
mircea_popescu: i mean yeah
that's how it works for
the retarded, 75
to 90 iq
ascii_modem: pg's flunkies believe
that
they shall be rewarded in
this life.
ascii_modem: and setting bozo bit on
the fellow who convincingly plays
the part of your only
ticket out of hell - is psychologically expensive
ascii_modem: until kid 'sets bozo bit' on his 'sensei', he will assume, at any juncture where he finds himself lost,
that - his own fault
mircea_popescu: bear in mind
that i have
the advantage of very deep intimacy with people
that age
ascii_modem: this is not how
the kids in question work. whatever saint craps out - gospel. if patent nonsense:
test of faith!
mircea_popescu: what fucking sense does
this even begin
to make! who's graham loyal
to, where's his flag flying ?
mircea_popescu: does
this guy have not
the slightest moral compunction about
that one kid ? because why, because 5 million mouthbreathers
that wouldn't read him anyway wouldn't see it in a million years ?
mircea_popescu: which you know
they were recently convicted for criminally colluding not
to do.
mircea_popescu: but wait! if
they didn't pay "the same price" for an immigrant,
they'd have
to pay a higher price for a local
mircea_popescu: how about
that one kid who worships him for whatever dumb kid reason, who suddenly looks up from
that page and
thinks...
mircea_popescu: yet
they do understand enough of you know, basic arithmetic and
thermodynamics
to see
that a "same price" argument is pure nonsense.
mircea_popescu: but
there are
these people in
the middle, who either because
they're young, or because
they're marginally educated, or marginally intelligent, don't really find
themselves in a position of serene immunity.
mircea_popescu: i mean,
the written output of
the bezzle world is not about convincing, or for
that matter even fooling mp.
ascii_modem: the bugger knows well from what countries
they bring
the coolies, and why
mircea_popescu: i find it fascinating just how willing
to insult
their audience
these people are.
mircea_popescu: either
this guy is dumb or
the most bald faced scammer ever. seriously,
that's how prices work ?
mircea_popescu: "So
they claim it's because
they want
to drive down salaries. But if you
talk
to startups, you find practically every one over a certain size has gone
through legal contortions
to get programmers into
the US, where
they
then paid
them
the same as
they'd have paid an American. Why would
they go
to extra
trouble
to get programmers for
the same price? "
mircea_popescu: and i have
to invent some explanation
to account for all
the effort libtards have put into
trying
to break down functional society ?
mircea_popescu: "The anti-immigration people have
to invent some explanation
to account for all
the effort
technology companies have expended
trying
to make immigration easier. "
ascii_modem: perl and
the like cannot really die;
the human folly
that makes
them irresistible for some folks - is immortal
mircea_popescu: such an improbable feat,
that, if you
think of it. most of
the bad languages i met in my adolescence are dead and im not even old yet!
ascii_modem: aha, recall naggum's picture of 'thriving perl ecosystem' as, iirc, a carcass in
the sun alive with vermin
mircea_popescu: *: decimation
thinks
that
time horizon has already been reached <<< pretty much. i dun know any great programmers
that want
to go
to
the us. i know some great progreammers stuck i nthere
that haven't yet figured
that yes,
they can leave
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem much like pestilence is a hygiene problem. sure, it is. doesn't hurt having smooth surfaces
tho.
mircea_popescu: im fucking excited
to see
these guy's monthly report for dec or jan or whenever's next
mircea_popescu: cazalla: well,
that didn't
take long.. bitcoinfoundation.org has redesigned
their website yet again <<< gotta do something...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform's "whatsoever" sucks, not least of all because it creates hole for various gnomes
to shoehorn
their stuff in
mircea_popescu: download and verify blocks, create and broadcast
txn which are included in blocks.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: what does it mean
to bitcoinate? << download and verify blocks, create and broadcast blocks which are in
turn verified.
assbot: All your onions are belong
to us.
mircea_popescu: "You need
to learn an important lesson and it will not be complete until you are completely humiliated -- or you figure out
that what you have done is so bad and stupid
that you simply leave us alone until
the shame wears off." << surprising naggum never made
the next logical step into bdsm.
mircea_popescu: "Why do you need
to have
this pointed out in public after you demonstrate again and again
that you do not understand what you are saying, cannot do what you say "is not option", and continue
to blame others for your behavior?" could have been removed without loss, for instance. parsimony is a great approach, especially when dealing with idiots.
mircea_popescu: re
the "turned
their nose, mainly on account of
these pieces",
there is something in
there i can see as well. it could be reduced
to mere bad writing, but otherwise
there's
this recursive insistence on boring, banal shit
that gives
the impression
the guy's not quite... you know, queenheaded.
mircea_popescu: hm, from asciilifeform's naggum link. "The moralist would not _be_ a moralist if he were willing
to abide by and obey
the rules he
thinks
that other people should follow."
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2014 19:20:38; ben_vulpes: if only
tiberius were still with us. now *that* was some
trolling.
assbot: Logged on 26-12-2014 19:13:33; asciilifeform: 'For us as
the Reserve Bank... ...we'll have
to figure out how we make money because
the way we generate most of our revenue is
through forms of seigniorage, people are willing
to hold currency free of interest and
that's how we make money...'
mircea_popescu: how about we do something useful. it's been... about a year or so i've been
trying
to set yu people up with servers.
mircea_popescu: t anyway, since you seem
to be pretty much
the balance of still active freenode staff : rather
than wasting
time on
this nonsense of some kid
that
thinks banal netbios ddos makes him a wizard (which i
think has outlived its charm anyway)
mircea_popescu: i was waiting for
that absolute becoming comparable at
the hands of
the internet busineseers.
mircea_popescu: davout: who decided, and why,
that
the contents should be gpg signed ? << oh for cryssakes it was in
the log like 20
times.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: decimation kinda what leads
to my "no men" statements. brutality only works on certain
types.
decimation: well, from
the press reports, he seems
to be
the model
that isis is using on
their side of
the war (wrt random brutality), and it seems
to be working for
them
decimation: ascii_modem: lol he was
too much for
the SS colonels
mircea_popescu: is
this
the guy
that got beaten
to death by
teh frenchies ?
mircea_popescu: anyway,
this discussion readily reduces
to stuff
typified by like...
tom sawyer
ascii_modem: (
those unfamiliar with herr dirlewanger - srraight
decimation: if in
the sense of 'have, but can't use', I agree
mircea_popescu: decimation seems a distinction without a difference in
the context.
decimation: I don't agree.
there are plenty of men, but none of
them would be willing
to give up
their lives
to further
the cause of
the
transgendered in syria
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem i've not seen many exterminators scurrying
to scuttle
their embassy or anything like
that.
mircea_popescu: the us is not
the us of vietnam era, when what you say was probably
true.
ascii_modem: this is like supposing
that exterminators are enemies of roaches
mircea_popescu: by
the way : i've been reading chinese magazines, in
the sense of looking at
the pictures.
decimation: re: orcs in
the desert <<
the us could roll
them over in about 2 days if
the us were willing
to commit
the men & willing
to actually fight
to win
mircea_popescu: watch us foreign policy around china and you'll get a pretty good idea of how
the war'd go. according
to both parties.
mircea_popescu: not only are
there ~3 armies it could never
touch, but it's getting humiliated on a regular basis by
the orks in
the desert.
decimation: it does seem
that
the us generally puts much weight on 'but
they would never do
that' in its foreign strategy
mircea_popescu: what
the hell is
this war planning where "willing and able" are ifs on
the part of
the enemy ?
decimation: in which case, it would make a hell of alot more sense for
the us
to be stamping out
thousands of f-16s for each 1 f-35
decimation: I would grant
that it is likely
that if
the us went
to war against someone who would be willing & able
to shoot down satellites
then
the us would find itself suddenly back into an air attrition war with human-piloted planes
decimation: well,
the problem ai planes & ai soldiers is
that
the poorly wrought heuristics
that went into
the design would quickly be learned and exploited by
the enemy
decimation: ascii_modem:
true.
that's why ideally your robot plane ought
to be able
to operate without comms
to
the greatest extent possible
mircea_popescu: ascii_modem well, maybe
they make
the fighter-bombers of
the future work on love.