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asciilifeform: artifexd: this would be - to reconcile history per-pubkey, rather than global.
asciilifeform: artifexd: i was trying to suggest another way whereby no packet needs to exceed udp's mtu in size, or be guaranteed to reach its destination in the first try
mircea_popescu: improvements don't have to be absolute solutions to be useful. they just have to be absolute improvements.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, we have a much shittier version currently,
asciilifeform: artifexd: you don't strictly speaking need fountain code in first version of this apparatus.
mircea_popescu: artifexd nothing prevents the thing to be further upgraded later on.
artifexd: It is also possible that my own ignorance is complicating the design.
artifexd: Fountain codes, insomuch as I don't understand them, complicate the design. Padding the the structure that gets encrypted doesn't.
asciilifeform: 'prison is like the grave, room can be found for everyone' (ru proverb)
mircea_popescu: should be obvious that model does not work. it doesn't, specifically because it caters to the idiocy it proposes very flimsily to be "against".
mircea_popescu: on a more practical angle, you will note that the various entities relying on "secrecy" are in jail, from the pirate robets to the shrem dude. even "thanking the judge for a justice well done".
mircea_popescu: sure, that much.
asciilifeform: not suggesting that 'anonymity' warrants complicating design, but if it can be dropped by the gods from the sky at no cost, no reason not to pick up.
mircea_popescu: no, i shan't live by any entities' permission. the state will live by my permission, or go down in a hail of bullets and flame thrower exhaust.
mircea_popescu: if the state controls the field of identity it doesn't need much more.
mircea_popescu: let the derps analyze it until they fall over. this retreat of person to "anonymity" is exactly the wrong strategic moves.
mircea_popescu: artifexd more's the point, i don't specifically give a shit about "analysis"
asciilifeform: artifexd: this requires a fixed, steady flow of bits between the two points.
artifexd: Right. But "once a second" is in the first draft of the rfc.
asciilifeform: artifexd: it is also necessary that they have no temporal correlation to anything.
artifexd: As far as traffic analysis goes, as long as all of the transmissions are opaque noise (because they are encrypted) and are of constant size, analysis is impossible.
asciilifeform: incidentally, here's a small idea. instead of transmitting snapshots of global state (of 'channel'), have each packet be a reconciliation of one particular pubkey's history. that way there is no need to reassemble gigantic blob.
mircea_popescu: everything can be bought of the shelf neh ?
artifexd: Boxes that sit in front of the server that establishes connections and only passes on the connected ones can be bought of the shelf, right?
mircea_popescu: artifexd that all depends. relativelysolved lol
mircea_popescu: it requires someone to do it correctly.
asciilifeform: the connection-tracking apparatus of tcp is really half the force behind the sting of 'ddos'
asciilifeform: not having to worry about syn floods, etc. plus frustrating most existing traffic analysis widgetry - udp, if done correctly, is a serious win
artifexd: TCP does offer advantages. Not having to reinvent/reimplement transmission reliability/ordering is not a minor thing.
asciilifeform: if you can get packet P from your box to other end, using paper letter, but not the net - should be able to do so
mircea_popescu: but otherwisew this is supposed to work today.
mircea_popescu: ideally we keep away from any really dumb ideas that'd prevent moving away from the current situation
asciilifeform: but there is no particular reason to glue it to ip on protocol level
artifexd: Is "can be transmitted via carrier pigeon" really a priority for this project?
asciilifeform: artifexd: a good compromise, probably, would be the Luby transform.
artifexd: I fear that the more complicated the math, the more likely I am to screw it up.
asciilifeform: this is one of the very few mathematical/computation subfields where there was real progress in the past twenty years.
mircea_popescu: right, this is an excessive approach
asciilifeform: the most classic, 'naive' algo for this, known to nearly everyone under one name or another, is reed-solomon.
asciilifeform: X*N is naturally larger than B. by how much - depends on particular algorithm chosen.
asciilifeform: artifexd: there are several known ways of doing a 'fountain code' (term of art) - where a bitstring, B, is transformed into a number, N, of shorter bitstrings, whereby X of N can be collected, in any order, and with certain quantity of errors permissible, to reconstitute B.
assbot: [Artifexd] A better ircd [RFC] pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3c30w )
assbot: * - Breaking one or more of the following policies will get you * - /Kill'ed an - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3c2d0 )
mircea_popescu: on a lark i connect to efnet. first server simpyl fails to connect. 2nd dumps this http://pastebin.com/epe6WQBC
kakobrekla: >As you well observe, this thing is in fact Bitcoin without the shared public ledger (kept instead as a virtual private ledger by each node).
mircea_popescu: reading the comments, this new ircd thing is actually fucking exciting.
mircea_popescu: (possibly the first in the trend of white trash "do-ologists", something that's apparently coming en vogue what with all the couch surfing entrepreneurs)
asciilifeform has been enjoying 'Seeing Justice Done. The Age of Spectacular Capital Punishment in France.' (Paul Friedland.) ☟︎
assbot: Full Disclosure: The truth about Rob Levin aka Lilo ofirc.freenode.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3aRdz )
mircea_popescu: http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2006/Jun/843 << old lilo drama, if anyone's unsatisfied by the piles of bitcoin drama we have fresh on tap.
asciilifeform: as well as the actual punishments.
mircea_popescu: such as, in medieval times punishment lists were put out in the marketplace.
mircea_popescu: i thought about it for a while, but fundamentally, wot has a lot of trouble existing independent of the forum.
mircea_popescu: obviously, will have to.
asciilifeform also points out that, as written, apparatus is also meant to replace the classical 'wot'
mircea_popescu: arguably ircd isn't really any of these, but going by intent rather than practice.
mircea_popescu: artifexd it's supposed to replace ircd as a secure, fast and reliable means to communicate directly with others.
asciilifeform: artifexd: answer not obvious from the article ?
artifexd: mircea_popescu: Do you envision the ircd project have the end goal of replacing the freenode #b-a channel or is it only supposed to be a way for one individual to communicate with another individual?
asciilifeform: but when there are more mice than human eater in the restaurant, mass-wise, it reflects poorly.
mircea_popescu: what there isn't is "forbidden types of content"
asciilifeform: wouldn't suggest that it is their duty to play exterminator
mircea_popescu: it's akin to saying that there's child porn in the blockchain. yes, of course there is.
asciilifeform: there's also the interesting fact (i shall offer no attempt at proof here) that a significant chunk of fleanode traffic is botnet c&c
mircea_popescu: but on the whole... kinda mcdonald-ish, willy nilly.
mircea_popescu: they can sort-of push the levers, they can send over diddled code to whatever "specialists" never to be heard from again,
mircea_popescu: i don't expect "the freenode folks" have technically very much at their disposal. this is the thing, frozen since the days lilo walked the earth.
asciilifeform: well yes, but the reactions of the 'nah it isn't our fault, and by the way have you tried plugging it in? and it ain't a bug, but a feature, at any rate'
kakobrekla: only bb is up tho :p
kakobrekla: prolly same dude that is pestering trilema/qntra these days.
asciilifeform: (reaction to learning of ddos)
asciilifeform: there's an interesting similarity in the reactions of the freenode folks (quoted in earlier thread) and that of the wp fool (quoted in recent article on mircea_popescu's site)
kakobrekla: i dont care enough to check the logs.
kakobrekla: idk, twas a http flood , wp prolly
asciilifeform: 600?! why so threadbare.
kakobrekla: try harder next time.
asciilifeform: one time, isaac asimov (iirc ?) got tired of idiots badgering him with questions re: subjects in which he could not possibly give informed answer, and some of these even retorted with 'please just give me your gut feeling!' to which he answered that he does not think with his gut, and the questioner is welcome to keep the company of those who do - elsewhere.
mircea_popescu: anyway, go read the log, come back in half year or thereabouts.
mircea_popescu: blockchain technologies ?
asciilifeform: how could you ever hope to learn it?
asciilifeform: muh_buttcoins: i'm genuinely curious as to why you would like to learn the answer to that question
asciilifeform: muh_buttcoins: if you were to meet with proof that it was so, or was not so, would the coins thereby unsteal themselves ?
muh_buttcoins: Do you guys think the Bitstamp owners stole the coins and made up the hacked story?
asciilifeform blows dust off textbook
mircea_popescu: so google for انجام می خندد شیطانی then
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and works, about as well as russian-english (which is to say, very threadbare)
assbot: #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/13Yy3yb )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is marked 'persian' there.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Is that a comment or a article submission?
asciilifeform: the mere emission of a 'muhahahaha' - or some more specific activity peculiar to reverse-engineering purloined fpga bitstreams ?
mircea_popescu: afaik no farsi in gtranslate, so there is that
BingoBoingo: Ah, in that case prolly no more than 97-95 percent so you don't starve or go homeless. Prolly keep the number lower than that though. Diversify get apartments in different cities around the world, ya know.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: occasionally there are idiomatic residual clues
muh_buttcoins: what % of your net wealth do you think is a good amount to invest in bitcoin
muh_buttcoins: is speculating on the price discouraged here
asciilifeform: 'PARASTOO IS INFORMING THAT "CPLD AND FPGA BITSTREAMS" RUNNING THE SECURITY MODULES IN BOTH GROUND STATIONS AND MANY OF THE HOVERING ACTUAL SATELLITES THAT ARE LINKED TO SOME TARGETED NOCs ARE FULLY DECRYPTED ..AND WE FOUND -- WHILE DOING SATANIC LAUGHS -- SOME OF THESE UGLY CODES ARE NOT EVEN COMPATIBLE WITH BASIC NIST'S FIPS SECURITY GRADE GIVEN TO THESE PRODUCTS WITH $+APPLAUSE .'
asciilifeform: or rather, at any time could have been hitler, but previously the fuhrer would have been required to put in a little sweat and pwn fleanode wholesale, whereas now he just needs to break nickserv
asciilifeform makes small 'public service announcement' that, with gribble dead, any one of us present company could be hitler.
asciilifeform: well yes. but it is 'duct tape' for the cloak thing.
mircea_popescu: "Saudi Arabia shipped 54 percent of its crude oil exports to Asia in 2013, with another 17 percent to the United States, according to Saudi Aramco's annual report. It shipped just 5.4 percent to Europe and 6.7 percent to the Mediterranean. In total, crude exports ran at 6.8 million bpd."