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mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i dun see why it would have to be fresh.
asciilifeform: a full-bore year zero would require everybody suddenly forgetting their keys
thestringpuller: so the db is gonna be fresh, everyone has to re-register keys and stuff?
thestringpuller: they can if you rate through pm
mircea_popescu: hekc, the old ones don't go away either, you can just log the chan.
mircea_popescu: if they're signed they don't go away anyway.
thestringpuller: when did the cult become forgiving :P
mike_c: yes. thankfully we are not experian :)
thestringpuller: mike_c: well some things stay ony our credit report for years even if the rating changes :P
mircea_popescu: mike_c this is a good idea huh.
thestringpuller: if you're upgrading why not take revision of rating
mike_c: can it get 'rated since' right? so you don't have to weigh whether it is worth changing a rating description vs losing the original rating date.
mircea_popescu: on the plus side, since we have the signed pastebin thing down pat by now,
thestringpuller: ah so the wot is forking ;)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the agreement is adding assbot wot capabilities is desirable and strengthens the whole shebang overall << will assbot write to a wot db - assbot_wot.db if you will? or will it just be read-only?
mircea_popescu: tempted to guess it'll be before bitstamp's exchange's back online at any rate :D
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the agreement is adding assbot wot capabilities is desirable and strengthens the whole shebang overall
mircea_popescu: PeterL the latter.
PeterL: mircea_popescu: you said a replacement for gribble auth was in the works, were you referring to "gossipd" or a more readily available something else, like using assbot for auth?
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: convenience is appreciated esp. by the chronically inconvenienced. << does this mean you also appreciate time management?
PeterL: Justin Amash has an interesting take on the issue, https://www.facebook.com/repjustinamash/posts/557041991001878
BingoBoingo: PeterL: Well a number of refineries there, but there' refineries pretty much everywhere.
PeterL: wrt pipeline: I thought they were piping it to texas because that is where the refineries are, refineries are there because that is where ports are?
pete_dushenski: since there's no ;;later function, you'll note that i left you a msg in the logs
RagnarDanneskjol: While we anxiously await gribb's return, its worth mentioning, the best btc exchange avail is funded by donations...address is at bottom of OTC website
thestringpuller: what if nanotube leaving was an attempt to make ops in our channel
nubbins`: apologies for the technical difficulties, gribble's absence has left us mildly encumbered
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Naw, I had just noticed he joined the chan earlier.
asciilifeform: <RagnarDanneskjol> (23:51:57) nanotube: hi, looks like outbound connectivity is dead on my vps. filed support request, would appreciate someone to take a look
BingoBoingo: I actually think this whole fracking/pipeline thing is rather poetic. The United States is literally shattering the country's bedrock to become more like Nigeria.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski> further north, monsanto farms Further north and Keystone XL doesn't need to be as long. Right now trains and barges move crude. Refineries scatted around as well.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> who would need oil there, arizona ?! new mexico ? << This. Also Oklahomo, Louisiana...
mircea_popescu: who would need oil there, arizona ?! new mexico ?
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> BingoBoingo ok, but it's neighbours too? << Yes, especially the neighbors. "Fracking"
mircea_popescu: looking for butts to probe
mircea_popescu: shit, "human girls asshole" search string trendingon trilema. THE ALIENS HAVE LANDED!
mircea_popescu: well actually i don't think it's shameful either.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo ok, but it's neighbours too?
pete_dushenski: “The greatest secret of monarchic rule...is to keep men deceived and to cloak in the specious name of religion the fear by which they must be checked, so that they will fight for slavery as they would for salvation, and will think it not shameful, but a most honorable achievement, to give their life and blood that one man may have a ground for boasting.”
mircea_popescu: this is true.
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> BingoBoingo right, but you're saying there's no domestic need in the texas area? << Texas itself net exports on its own
mircea_popescu: earned, and appeal solely to reason. In fact, the real disturbers of the peace are those who, in a free state, seek to curtail the liberty of judgment which they are unable to tyrannize over.
mircea_popescu: Schisms do not originate in a love of truth, which is a source of courtesy and gentleness, but rather in an inordinate desire for supremacy. From all these considerations it is clearer than the Sun at noonday, that the true schismatics are those who condemn other men's writings, and seditiously stir up the quarrelsome masses against their authors, rather than those authors themselves, who generally write only for the l
pete_dushenski: you just caught me in the middle of reading "ethics" again and that's the salient bit
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu aha yknow come to think of it that rings a bell
mircea_popescu: i enjoy reading these articles even if it's the same subject matter all over again,
pete_dushenski: and it might be a bit loose to call spinoza an inventor given that he only crafted words ☟︎
mircea_popescu: On April 5, DPR wrote: "I've received the picture and deleted it. Thank you again for your swift action."
pete_dushenski: not that the opposite of anonymous is an inventor
pete_dushenski: in a way, i suppose that the opposite of an inventor is anonymous...
mircea_popescu: and the opposite of ballerina is, dependopopotamus.
mircea_popescu: i was talking to him lol.
asciilifeform: what's the opposite of ballerina ?
mircea_popescu: so the opposite of inventor is "anonymous" ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: herr jobs & bezos are well-known figures but they are 'inventors' in much the same way as they are ballerinas.
pete_dushenski: whether or not he was "the first to 'invent' xyz"
pete_dushenski: to which point i think both deserve some credit
mircea_popescu: well he doesn't mean inventor-inventor, like tesla.
asciilifeform: for instance, one often meets with discussion of how edison 'did not invent' x. which, for most values of x, is technically true. but i have not been able to find evidence (did try) that he is not the actual inventor of phonograph.
pete_dushenski: as much as being known for their, well, craftiness
pete_dushenski: i guess an "inventor" for me doesn't have to have a specific product attributed to them
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: possibly you knew of some invention that i am not aware of, attributed to these men ?
pete_dushenski: i mean you know a lot about a lot of things
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i merely thought it was odd that you brought up two figures who are not, afaik, known to have invented anything as examples of inventor
mircea_popescu: possibly life threatening.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: though if nanotube goes in for this, omidyar should go <<< turns out stan is ALSO toxic
assbot: Immigration policy is about barriers to entry, not fairness; or how Paul Graham thinks programmers are inventors | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1xKEm4H )
mircea_popescu: (the colodial silver folk are the working study group for this)
mircea_popescu: anyway, gold oxides and suspensions are very moderately toxic
asciilifeform: not the only edible one, either
mircea_popescu: more so than gold.
undata: google says the average bladder is about 0.5 L
mircea_popescu: re u : it's chemically toxic.
mircea_popescu: because the us is built on "0% risk", see. otherwise smoking is ok and no need for helmets.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Pu - toxic; dU is a weak alpha emitter
mircea_popescu: kinda why du projectiles keep coming close to ban
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: seems like it does require a crown contract attesting to the fact of use in a particular product, along with statement of disposal arrangements << uranium is, if mishandled, extremely toxic.
undata: and yet people still swim in the river
asciilifeform: how much must drink from the reservoir to get lethal dose.
undata: look that reservoir, you didn't make that to piss in, we all did
undata: ^ clearly this merits spending a few hundred million
assbot: Portland Will Save Reservoir Water Tainted By Teen's Urine ... ( http://bit.ly/1HXIUYG )
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo right, but you're saying there's no domestic need in the texas area?
asciilifeform: winter clothing << the comical heat-only-the-humans-with-microwave-turret gadget from the film series 'silicon valley' was - afaik - proposed in earnest. possibly in ussr. vague recollection.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Not really. Domestically we are getting the oil just fine. There's refineries spread all over the country. The point of the pipe is it runs to the ports in Texas.
pete_dushenski: export pipelines to china from alberta are happening whether keystone goes forward or not
BingoBoingo: I thought the entire point of having a domicile was heating it so clothing inside became optional.
mircea_popescu: i dunno exactly what inflamed part of the cerebrum it comes from, but it's a commie thing.
mircea_popescu: it's a commie thing.
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2015 21:24:49; jurov: http://phys.org/news/2015-01-super-insulated-indoor.html had to double check it isn't the onion
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-01-2015#970234 << remember the days ceausescu was proposing the exact thing ? did husak havesomething similar i dun recall ? << Because they can't imagine people having occasion to fuck in the winter? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Well it's like the KeystoneXL pipeline debate for which both sides neglect to discuss the destination of oil flowing through it (the export market)
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2015 21:24:49; jurov: http://phys.org/news/2015-01-super-insulated-indoor.html had to double check it isn't the onion
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-01-2015#970234 << remember the days ceausescu was proposing the exact thing ? did husak havesomething similar i dun recall ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2015 20:53:34; asciilifeform: http://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/35154/whether-to-tell-his-prospective-employer-that-a-new-male-post-doc-opposes-affirm << found this by pure accident. linking here just for mircea_popescu's butterfly collection.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-01-2015#970220 << but it gets pretty thoroughly shot down ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that it's obvious to you but not to them has more to do with the fact that they're used to their own shit than anything.
mircea_popescu: they pretend, just like everyone else, to the utmost of their ability.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo why ? it's the same tribal, pretentious, inept culture. << At least Botswana's economy accepts that it exists simply as a tool for extracting raw resources.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: is this new "1 week buffer from event" copy now standard practice? << people like putting it in. what can i say ?