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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But since the founders made the Keybase abomination, I want to find out how much their original venture lies
mircea_popescu: xe4l there's a deeper point involved here. stealth does not work in and of itself, as a strategy. if you want safety, you deploy an army. if you want to play the stealthy, you attach yourself to something with an army.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: actual woman on dating site? lol wtf << Site in question kept my dick wet through Library school.
assbot: 10 results for 'buried treasure' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=buried+treasure
xe4l: !s buried treasure
assbot: Here's part n of our endless saga, aptly titled "The People Know Shit" or alternatively "Nothing's Dumber Than The Voice In The Crowd". pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1AUMssM )
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://trilema.com/2015/heres-part-n-of-our-endless-saga-aptly-titled-the-people-know-shit-or-alternatively-nothings-dumber-than-the-voice-in-the-crowd/#comment-111340 he's right isn't he ? 1400 btc the most ever bet in a single bet on bitbet innit ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nominally they accept Bitcoin and the same founders also made the Keybase.io thing. Gotta see if the average man on it looks worse than an ungulate.
asciilifeform: xe4l: were you here for the 'buried treasure' thread ?
xe4l: in this context, not really actually
asciilifeform: xe4l: let's imagine we were. wouldn't discussing it here defeat the purpose of the exercise ?
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Related: We just detected that you’re now among the most attractive people on OkCupid. << Profile picture is a Llama. Not metaphorically or anything. Picture is actual shaggy Llama. << ahahaha wut.
xe4l: anyone using traffic creation software to mask activity? Eg: all internet connectivity from residence is routed out vpn(s), using QOS and traffic simulation software you maintain say 10mbit worth of various traffic (replaying or creating all relevant encapsulated protocols in use) with a low QOS setting such that your consumption is undetectable?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah. Bitcoin accepting merchant "Okcupid". Simply probing a data aggregator that happens to accept BTC.
asciilifeform: (appears to be a logical inference here? llama was voted up?)
BingoBoingo: Related: We just detected that you’re now among the most attractive people on OkCupid. << Profile picture is a Llama. Not metaphorically or anything. Picture is actual shaggy Llama.
decimation: lol yeah that poster is hilarious. the best cattle *volunteer* for the bioreactor
BingoBoingo: It's systemd all over again. Work is their enemy. Enemy is merely interested in producing anti-work.
asciilifeform: like stone tablets to moses
asciilifeform: the muppets' work? sure. handlers? could extract it (from where? don't look at me) and put in their hands
decimation: asciilifeform: based on their current work 'output' that scenario seems very unlikely
asciilifeform: (re: general chumpatronics. begs to be photodiddled.)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> at any rate, why would the phoundation's handlers cut their funding now ? << Hearding 101. If the sheep don't want to move on you let them get hungry in their overgrazed pasture. Makes them more receptive to new grass.
decimation: what would a 'wunderwaffen' even be like? some kind of fatal bug they secretly fixed?
asciilifeform: by the looks of it, probably a 'they showed up' kind of affair
mircea_popescu: what do you think this is, some sort of wh fast tracked project ?
asciilifeform: unless they have a replacement muppet brigade on hot spare
asciilifeform: at any rate, why would the phoundation's handlers cut their funding now ?
mircea_popescu: considering whom it has to look impressive to...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wunderwaffen that doesn't have to defeat the enemy, but look impressibe - is a little easier.
asciilifeform: xe4l: do read the linked threads.
xe4l: rgr ty
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you have any idea what sort of work's involved in coughing up wunderwaffen that weren't planned for ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'disregard x years and you'll never see the difference' is sop on usg projects.
asciilifeform: they could try to worm out of this tight spot by coughing up a 'wunderwaffen'
mircea_popescu: how's that for irony.
mircea_popescu: outside of handwaves and "it has been covered in previous posts", three years of "development" can readily be discarded and nobody'd know the difference.
mircea_popescu: the problem with this approach is that once challenged, they can not i nfact produce a list of what they did.
mircea_popescu: anyway, a point of strategy, which i think everyone'll appreciate cuz it's lulzy. so : the scam foundation and its merry band of power rangers have very carefully constructed this situation where "nobody knows" what's what and whence it came and where it's going, because they (wrongly) perceived that ownership of an opaque codebase will guarantee them control and continued relevance.
asciilifeform: but no warez behind the names, naturally
asciilifeform: but the playlists in question were a fashion where kids posted them on their 'look i have a w3bs1t311111'
mircea_popescu: how do YOU listen to music ?
mircea_popescu: i still have them
asciilifeform: cve is the sec. research equivalent of the 1990s 'winamp playlist' (who remembers these ?)
asciilifeform: this goes beyond the merely suspicious or ill-reputed, but is shitgnomery plain as daylight
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yteah i am quite unhappy with an' suspicious of the current avenues for fixing "open source" software.
mircea_popescu: (the take forever to verify tx thing)
mircea_popescu: but since we're discussing this, CVE-2013-2292 is still not fixed ?
asciilifeform: a 'chinese encyclopaedia' of, for the most part, mystery meats
joecool: i guess should look and see how they patched the behavior
asciilifeform: the default change behaviour is asinine (owing to how it destroys wallet backup as a concept) but i cannot recall how it can be seen as 'vulnerable'
asciilifeform: my sole recollections are from a brief discussion here, i think.
asciilifeform: anyone else puzzled that nowhere on the net - including above 'canonical' page - tells us wtf it did, in detail ?
mircea_popescu: 2293 i recall was a retarded dos that had about 0 practical use
mircea_popescu: joecool do you recall what that cvs actually did ?
asciilifeform: (the duplicate nonce thing)
asciilifeform: neh that wasn't it
mircea_popescu: iirc that was due to a bad hardware "rng"
asciilifeform: the entirely nonsensical way in which the client decides what to do with 'change'.
mircea_popescu: someone refresh me on what exactly that vuln was anyway ?
asciilifeform: walletron doesn't belong in the net stack. or on that box at all.
assbot: Logged on 23-10-2014 05:06:33; asciilifeform: decimation: in my (now very old) plan for rewrite, there were to be two machines
asciilifeform: change predictability << personally i'd like to see the problem solved in the civilized way. i.e. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-10-2014#890278 ☝︎
mod6: asciilifeform: sure. ben & myself were just discussing this yesterday actually. heh. not sure what this version will be called yet.
mircea_popescu: send to the list, signed.
mircea_popescu: joecool> cool, you want any patches submitted for review on stuff like this? << definitely that part.
asciilifeform: one of you will have to pick the new string.
asciilifeform: mod6: i'm leaving this for the folks actually involved
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mod6: asciilifeform: ah ok. hmm. well, too late to go back and edit the 1st patch. but i guess you can submit another that resolves that issue.
mod6: yup, shouldn't be an issue for you. we'd love the help.
joecool: format looks easy enough to follow, cool
mod6: if persons submitting patches do not have L2 trust with assbot they may be submitted directly to me, and I will review. and will probably have to sponsor said patch myself.
mod6: joecool: here's a guide to submitting a patch: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000022.html
asciilifeform: mod6: presently it spits out the traditional one. perhaps this should change at some point.
joecool: cool, you want any patches submitted for review on stuff like this?
mod6: the list is getting lengthy, but we're not going anywhere, so we've got time.
mod6: joecool: not at this time, but that might get added to the list at some point.
mircea_popescu: i shall let teh experts comment.
joecool: 0.5.3 is the version linked on thebitcoin.foundation
mircea_popescu: weren't they working on 5.9 ?
joecool: mod6: are there plans to patch things like change predictability?
assbot: If you go on a Bitcoin fork, irrespective which scammer proposes it, you will lose your Bitcoins. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xZHeMT )
BingoBoingo: beautyon: mircea_popescu laid out basics, but more guides written differently could help more innocents get the picture http://trilema.com/2015/if-you-go-on-a-bitcoin-fork-irrespective-which-scammer-proposes-it-you-will-lose-your-bitcoins/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i meant in terms of getting raped.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> sure, personal's anothermatter, especially if you had any assets. << Nah, you get the lawyer in personal ESPECIALLY when you don't have assets
beautyon: By the way, are you going to publish a low level guide to warn everyone thinking about "upgrading" to the fork? Forearmed is forearmed.
BingoBoingo: <joecool> mod6: solid, i'll open a bug to get it included in gentoo (and troll Luke-Jr) << He prolly has a historical version of his patch set s should be fine with it.
joecool: mod6: solid, i'll open a bug to get it included in gentoo (and troll Luke-Jr)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> you actually do better by not even hiring a lawyer. << Personal bankruptcy differs in that you get a lawyer because it compells phone spam aggro to their number and not yours
mod6: <+joecool> mircea_popescu: nice domain for the foundation, did you guys actually fix 0.5.3 to fetch all blocks??? << yup.
mircea_popescu: this is the rule in corp bankruptcy proceedings as administered in the us
BingoBoingo: Oh he got the whole farm
BingoBoingo: Because he just wanted to lobby
BingoBoingo: Murckckkck left the Fundnation
mircea_popescu: actually... quarter i guess. buncha people left last year too didn't they. is murky boy still involved ?
mircea_popescu: the half or so that's left, anyway.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, i marked mtgox for death in april, they struggled to prop it for six months before abandoning it ignominously, i do not believe they do not know they can not stand.
mircea_popescu: wasn't such a smart move, that.
mircea_popescu: yeah, a lot of ground has been lost since the hearn attack.