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hanbot: <thestringpuller> how did you not have a stroke while in the trenches of super retardism? << what matters are facts; doesn't matter how often idiocy is repeated by idiots, or how exotic it gets. also, cold showers.
assbot: bruce_fenton comments on Is Bitpay spending too much? 9 employees were laid off last week. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDpff9 )
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2s2yp1/is_bitpay_spending_too_much_9_employees_were_laid/cnm0n9q << if anyone wants to point out to bruce fenton that http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=D.BPAY isn't selling worth a crap. and it's damned cheap too.
mircea_popescu: "I think the bigger issue is that Bitpay doesn't have a long term business model. Even assuming that Bitcoin adoption grows, transfer of Bitcoin to fiat is a programmable function. People will immediately cut out the middle man if it becomes less expensive, and its a bit of a race to the bottom as people compete in the space for the best rates, quickest conversion and most apis."
mircea_popescu: no, fred wilson on twitter isn't it. i mean business.
mircea_popescu: that leaves what, propping the scam foundation ?
mircea_popescu: BitPay will soon be dead. They probably make $1000 per month revenue and burn around $500K. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Basically they fired the guy who blew $1.5Million and only 5 Transactions (probably sub $10) to show for it.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i recall that.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: So, I'm a big Dave Chappelle fan. Anyhow when he got heckled and ragequitting off stage during one of his last stand up shows he came back out and said something to the audience: "You know why my show is good? Because the network officials say you're not smart enough to get what I'm doing, and every day I fight for you. I tell them how smart you are. Turns out, I was wrong. You people are stupid." This is how I
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where was this ?
mircea_popescu: "An as yet unknown1 individual or group has taken up the mantle of DPR and launched the next iteration of the Silk Road marketplace, but this time around it's not accessible via Tor."
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller btw, how does it feel to like hit it with article ?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Things happen
mircea_popescu: so then ? huge instablocks, miners running into the disaster of textile
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what even is the point of gigantic blocks ? << More pretend businesses for the Mr Spamzors
asciilifeform: what even is the point of gigantic blocks ?
thestringpuller: used to not affect, me. Today, I'm like "Sweet time to get beer".
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: you know. we used to have a "no alcohol on sunday" policy.
kakobrekla: my guess is nobody really knows what the actual fuck is going on.
asciilifeform: or is this more of a 'camel's nose' affair
asciilifeform: re: fork wars << i find it strange that the phoundation folks are derping around with block size, etc. rather than shooting for straight dekulakization.
assbot: . /btc_feed Really you aren't going to cite the source http://t.co/j5ClkrUzCo you quote in your layoffs article http://t.co/firoaZwLPP
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. It really does. It's been a fight getting credibility from people on the fence. Took a few days for people to realize the BitPay layoff article wasn't bullshit.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo seems qntra is doing pretty well these days huh
BingoBoingo: Retard, that's not a bullet with the name on it that's just a fucking casing.
kakobrekla: 266, previous top.
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artifexd: If I can replace them for 1.35BTC each (or less), I will.
artifexd: ;;later tell nubbins` Do you have an common casascius coins you want to sell? I sold a dozen and would like to replace them.
assbot: zomg_pwn comments on Is Bitpay spending too much? 9 employees were laid off last week. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DzeWui )
BingoBoingo: Or maybe the handlers too.
BingoBoingo: Not the handlers, but the muppets.
BingoBoingo: Well, they are going to stop saying MP coin soon I imagine, because... They still base their idea of MP wealth on that dorky tortilla chart from god knows how long ago.
mircea_popescu: ie, how soon do they concede defeat.
BingoBoingo: I'm surprised it took so long for the coin name for issue to resolve
mircea_popescu: i wonder which way they end up solving it.
mircea_popescu: so their attempt to fork bitcoin escalated, because before they can in earnest get to that, they have to resolve a namefork
mircea_popescu: so they'd rather it be mpcoin vs "bitcoin". except... if the gavincoin chain fails, this in effect renames bitcoin after me.
cazalla: i'm not sure if there is anything better than butter soaked bread topped with an inch of vegemite
mircea_popescu: no really this shit is beautiful. so, libertards that think they're part of bitcoin come up with the idea to fork bitcoin to make it moar libertardcoin. mp says "fu and your gavincoin". now, they do understand that leaving the issue as bitcoin vs gavincoin pretty much settles the propaganda angle.
mircea_popescu: "mp got bitcoin renamed in his honor by not doing things! now that's the true entrepreneurial spirit!"
danielpbarron: they are starting to call the real bitcoin "MPcoin"
davout: no trouble beliebing that
BingoBoingo: decimation: And that's why the people who made the jump to culturing forest organisms in dirt found a useful.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: tieteixobactin << My outsider view is that microbiology has been more busy derping with 'computing dna' rather than actually studying microbes
davout: they look pretty different from what i'm used to, pretty fat and appealing :D
cazalla: davout, well agreed there, i won't buy and eat them from fish market in melbourne but while living near Sydney, happy to shove as many down my gullet as possible
davout: cazalla: never. been to sydney only a couple of days, lived in melbourne for a while tho, where i witnessed the unspeakable horror of these oysters being sold already opened
cazalla: <davout> cazalla: not very surprising coming from a people that sells oysters already opened <<< ever had Sydney rock oysters?
mircea_popescu: but it's how they're bringing "hope and change" to bitcoin, or w/e it was they were bringing.
asciilifeform: that kind of behaviour is more or less the same as asking for a, e.g., 'ld_preload attack' or the like.
mircea_popescu: bvut the recent openss; ecdsa library issue ? it's because they pulled "ecdsa"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the original complaint was more of a "we include names, do not know what code they stand for"
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.msg10118626#msg10118626 << fwiw, cooler heads seem to have caught on and are in danger of prevaling. which'll make this play out exactly as a mtgox 2.0 (i asked for tux' head on a platter in april, "community" protected him for a few months, i got head delivered february next. wonder if gavin makes it that long)_
asciilifeform: do artifexd, mircea_popescu, (who else in there?) understand the 'oeap' or 'pkcs#1' routine that is to be used in 'gossip' ?
mircea_popescu: it specifies the mystery meat is all.
asciilifeform: that doesn't solve the mystery meat problem
mircea_popescu: and that's that.
mircea_popescu: everything gossipd uses is thereby forked and frozen.
asciilifeform: idiotically complex solution to a quite simple problem, and there is no opting out if you want compatibility with anything
asciilifeform: imho this is the crevice where the remaining mice live, for the record.
asciilifeform: and how does your $library actually implement this
asciilifeform: now have to decide 'OAEP' or 'PKCS#1' ?
mircea_popescu: i kinda think we realise...
asciilifeform: "oh, we included code but we had no idea what it does" sort of approach to code-is-spec specwork << this is actually a very serious boojum, beyond what most realize. i'll give example.
mircea_popescu: kinda a resplendent showcase of why one does not really want to be on the side of idiots.
mircea_popescu: i doubt it was ever in history the case that idiots supporting something did so much damage to it by its attempts at supporting it.
asciilifeform: can any of these really be 'for real' ?
asciilifeform: 'It's time for devs to bring hope and change to the Bitcoin community' << trololol!
mircea_popescu: resists transforms.
mircea_popescu: quite stable this abstract grammar.
davout: the interesting in this bit is that if you s/devs/power rangers/ it works just as fucking well, if not better
davout: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.msg10119424#msg10119424 "Devs, Miners, Traders: they are the three branches of Bitcoin Government. They check and balance each other. Traders and miners have ruled too long. Their power is waning. It's time for devs to bring hope and change to the Bitcoin community. Then we can come back stronger."
decimation: gut flora are probably more important than we know
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah that's a good theory
decimation: heh interesting, didn't know that
mircea_popescu: well either that or shit transplant from europeans
davout: "oh that croissant from yesterday is hard? let's just soak it in that delicious milk+almonds thing and sell it under a different name" delicious nonetheless
mircea_popescu: i think that may actually be required for people with no better source of b complex / colon flora
davout: decimation: tbh the almond pastry thing is usually bakeries recycling yesterday's pastries
decimation: in france they fill pastries with almond paste; in australia, with yeast shit
decimation: mmm bread with yeast shit on top
decimation: Vegemite (/ˈvɛdʒɨmaɪt/ VEJ-ə-myt)[2][3] is a dark brown Australian food paste made from leftover brewers' yeast extract with various vegetable and spice additives developed by Cyril P. Callister in Melbourne, Victoria, in 1922.[4] A popular spread for sandwiches, toast, crumpets and cracker biscuits as well as a filling for pastries, Vegemite is similar to British, New Zealand and South African Marmite, Australian Promite,
assbot: Vegemite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1A6ooio )
davout: mircea_popescu: that sort of rings a bell, was that in bsas? i kind of remember you mentioning some sort of cheese too
davout: god forbid you confuse vegemite for nutella. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME
mircea_popescu: davout ever showed you the alleged "salmon" that was jet black ?
davout: mircea_popescu: of course, i'm speaking about stores, where the oysters are presented like that
decimation: it's the shit at the bottom of a beer barrel after fermentation is done
decimation: yeah in the us it is common to get oysters seved open
davout: that's even a worse offense to humanity than vegemite and the australian accent combined
mircea_popescu: plenty o\f restaurants bring them open to the table tho
davout: oysters. they're opened. right.
davout: cazalla: not very surprising coming from a people that sells oysters already opened
kakobrekla: you dont actually eat them.
cazalla: forever i think
mircea_popescu: how long are those supposed to keep
mircea_popescu: "This is one of the shittiest pieces of fear mongering I've ever read. Hard forking is and should be a natural and regular occurance and never has any hard fork ever threatened the block chain. It's called natural selection. Have a little faith in the educated masses"