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Adlai: you don't know what'll happen, but you know it'll be interesting
mircea_popescu: they couldn't get into the highschools, so prepuberty is the last time we met at the table.
mircea_popescu makes note : jews don't keep lent.
Adlai: "i don't think i smoked enough to pay for a decent book" << as though books are priced by content and not... who knows
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 21:09:46; mircea_popescu: <mats> wasn't telling a lie, merely made a mistake <<< it's a very interesting point as to how do you establish this ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think i smoked enough to pay for a decent book in those tobacco prices.
Adlai: and couldn'tc speak for which books were his, and which weren't
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 22:21:02; asciilifeform: those aren't naggum's books!
mircea_popescu: quote : "You don't suppose we read that stuff, do you? Why, half the time you're talking about books that cost twelve and sixpence!"
ascii_field: Chinese forum (in Chinese, which I can't read, but it seemed to be about Lenovo). In the end it did the exact same thing that the autochk.exe method (under Windows 7) does (loads LenovoUpdate.exe, installs a service, etc), except you get a cryptic entry in your System Log: "A platform binary was successfully executed."'
ascii_field: internet connection is established. I don't know too much exactly what those do, but one appears to phone home to http://download.lenovo.com/ideapad/wind ... 2_oko.json which is a bit worrying with the combination of a "ForceUpdate" parameter shown and the lack of ssl, making it fairly likely that it's exploitable for remote code execution by anyone who can intercept your traffic(public wifi, etc).'
ascii_field: (for n00bz: 'remote attestation' is this crackpot concept where usg has permanent root (yes) on 'your' computer, and uses it to verify that you aren't, e.g., running illegal linux)
ascii_field: mr mold doesn't do hardware
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> boils down to the hardness of the fritz chip << the reason they don't call it that is because they are trying to avoid the literature documenting the costs of making it hard and the limitation its softness imposes.
ascii_field: for answers to questions that don't have rigorous answers, but must be answered.
mircea_popescu: <mats> wasn't telling a lie, merely made a mistake <<< it's a very interesting point as to how do you establish this ? ☟︎
mats: he is quite clear about what it can and can't do, no dishonesty as far as i can tell
ascii_field: boils down to the hardness of the fritz chip (and yes, i will keep calling it that, because the motherfuckers don't get to pretend that fritz, palladium, etc. never happened.)
mats: i'm rapidly tiring of being a relay, but: he says that intel's 'trusted execution technology' wouldn't work with marss86, and you'd also have to have the key to provision marss
ascii_field: the thing about the 'hares' fella is that he is a textbook case of 'but terrorists wouldn't DO that!!111'
mats: wasn't telling a lie, merely made a mistake
ascii_field: http://marss86.org/~marss86/index.php/Home << wasn't inria. go figure
ascii_field: it wasn't a paper, but a downloadable source thing
ascii_field: i'm not mpoe-pr and don't engage with sc4mz0rz recreationally
ascii_field: anyway this would be more interesting if 'homomorphic crypto' weren't a sc4m
mircea_popescu: in your mind this means "i won't be able to tell if nsa is running X on my computer". in my mind, this means "nsa won't be able to tell if i'm running trilema off obama's computer".
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you don't imagine the stuff won't be hacked, right ?
mircea_popescu: my perception of "secured computing", for what it's worth (perhaps not much) is that it's very much akin to clothing. sure, it "protects the body". yet one generally wishes for the sort of house that allows, and that's populated by the sort of women that don't particularly need that protection.
mircea_popescu: didn't churchill in fact use it latert than 1945 ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think orwell is properly credited with the invention of this term ?
phf: jurov: theoretical potential is not the problem. what i'm saying is that there's existing "flora and fauna" that you're going to run into pretty fast. local деревенские "people from the village", police, military divisions that for all practical purposes own the locations principality style and don't need to "trade" in order to get guns, cars and supplies. for some reason that sort of fantasies don't usually go "let's build a dream su
mircea_popescu: better'd be to see who hanged for the fact that prefab production wasn't transitioned to "sandwiched prefab with styofoam". in like, 1992.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't grow on trees.
mircea_popescu: if you can't field this you don't belong there.
phf: the heat in novosibirsk like in all russian cities is provided through pipes in a form of a compressed steam and hot water from a ТЭЦ. (a major difference between eastern europe and the states). if ТЭЦ fails, novosibirsk turns into a ice coffin, on account of all the concrete box construction. that actually happened in the past for short periods of time (like a week or two) and it's usually a major humanitarian disaster. we don't even know
phf: (the pig scene, for the curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmy07aO10qM&t=2m18s)
phf: that's kind of an obvious point to a nerd boy, i thought the solution always was "stop being such a little shit", not "let's change everyone around me so i finally don't feel inadequate"
phf: (there's a 90s russian commedy, дмб, about a bunch of hapless army conscripts. at some point they are supposed to provide entertainment for generals, in some total buttfuck nowhere location. one of the activities is pig hunting, they release a pig, and the general goes after it. so of course the pig gets eaten by one of the hungry conscripts, and he has to pretend to be a pig running through fields. i can't help but think about orlov's boomer
mircea_popescu: i don't disagree with the point at all, i just don't think that's what happened there.
phf: well, the fantasy is a from the perspective of the bureaucrat himself, so he doesn't necessarily sees the bigger picture like a monarch would, he just does the inspection. record would be required though
mircea_popescu: for one thing, if it were bureaucracy driven, wouldn't you expect the girl be shot ? the woman dismissed ? some sort of "repercussions" ? "consequences" and whatnot ?
phf: "my brother's brother heard it from the guy WHO WAS THERE" "man, i wish i could just steal girls from classrooms like a brave chechen, because i sure as hell can't talk to them"
mircea_popescu: but hey, orlov doesn't know about india. he got a hammer an' he's a builder.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is that the us never having been a nation, it can't possibly fail like one.
asciilifeform: the latter point isn't even so far off
asciilifeform: phf: orlov is obsessed with the subject of 'noble orcs', where it is gypsy, or eskimo, or whoever hasn't invented water closet yet
mircea_popescu: you're not smart to live a long time, you're smart to live well. length don't enter into it.
mircea_popescu: you know, teaching a woman that she's supposed to neglect the functioning of her head so she can focus on... the kitchen, i guess, as the puritans can't quite make the cunt point, is criminal.
mircea_popescu: and they didn't hang tyhe "local police" by the lamp posts ?
asciilifeform: the only mistake i see in that photo is that the pit ain't full
mircea_popescu: problem is, armies don't actually work for this purpose.
asciilifeform groks this, but also does not know of how to explain in printed word to folks who don't
mircea_popescu: On the Russian side, it was invariably the mommy who came, and nagged her son: “You shouldn't fight! Fighting is bad!” On the Chechen side it was invariably the father who came. He slapped his son upside the head and told him: “How dare you lose a fight to a stinking Russian—the son of an alcoholic and a prostitute? Tomorrow you thrash him so hard that he pisses himself from fear any time he sees you!”
mircea_popescu: and no, the us didn't make shipping cheap, china did (srsly - look at what they did to that market if you wanna get scared).
mircea_popescu: so no, people aren't these magical snowflakes made out of independent thought and closely held principle. that view is chiefly an economical surplus phenomena, people tend to form that view if they live for too long unchallenged. otherwise, people are lazy and small. some smaller than lazy, some lazier than small. but by and large not worth the mention.
mircea_popescu: da couldn't get her to say otherwise, after all.
mircea_popescu: wen't great for her, she's rapemeat, she loves it, ask her!
mircea_popescu: don't impose your values on others mkay ?
williamdunne: Well the only references I'm seeing to it are describing it as a traumatic experience. While traumatic can be a force for good I can't see anything suggesting it did her any particular favours
mircea_popescu: but the one time you'll know this, apparently hasn't come yet.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i don't expect this is something that can be verbally communicated, and jesus fuck have i wasted some time if that's actually not so. but perhaps it'll be easier to understand when you take yourself out of there.
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mircea_popescu: ;;google don't take your guns to town
mircea_popescu: i don't follow ?
mircea_popescu: not that people weren't tempted, especially after a fucking while.
williamdunne: Haven't you heard? Criminal activity is immoral by default
mircea_popescu: "85% voted to implement a trivial change that was both needed and uncontroversial. they didn't implement it and bitcoin forked. lesson learned! 44% "vote" to implement a change that mp said he will attack. WHATCOULDGOWRONG!111"
mircea_popescu: <assbot> ~44% of Bitcoin mining hash power is currently voting to support 8 MB blocks. << jesus fuck look at these idiots, didn't skip a beat
fluffypony: obviously can't be faked
williamdunne: bank has notarized + apostilled documents certifying GPG key owned by me. bank uses GPG. bank requires documents to be signed in front of a notary and apostilled and won't accept GPG signatures. wao. fiat word sux
punkman: mine as long as utility company doesn't cut power, make new account, start over
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 21:47:42; mircea_popescu: how exactly did some us black guy get his "we" to include i presume egyptians, which weren't black while he wasn't in africa, is anyone's guess.
asciilifeform: 'One of the juicier scientific scandals of recent times involves Dutch psychologist Diederik Stapel, who admitted to fabricating many of his research results. A full list of Stapel's falsified articles hasn't been published, but the titles of some of his articles (some of which may not be tainted) offer insights. The article that outed him was "Coping with Chaos: How Disordered Contexts Promote Stereotyping and Discrimination.
mircea_popescu: msotly banned because the idiots prescribed them like they prescribe anything, "forever", and they don't work forever.
asciilifeform: the FBI has caught you downloading illegal material, you don't have a clue what to do. ... ... Most Americans are like that, kept alive and prosperous only through the exertions of people more productive, inventive and generous than they are. The productive view them not so much as loathsome insects, as puppies who will eventually go to the pound if they pee on the rug too often.'
asciilifeform: r people. Your illnesses are treated by people who speak a language you don't understand and who give you little nondescript pills containing who knows what? Everything in your house connects to outlets in the wall that supply electricity created by processes you don't understand. You are reading this on a device that might as well be populated by fairies for all you know. And when something pops up saying you have a virus or
asciilifeform: 'You eat food you didn't grow and in many cases have no idea where it came from or what it looks like in nature. You rely on elaborate machines to get you places, but have no idea how they work. If your car stops, you have no idea what went wrong or what to do to fix it. In many cases, there is nothing you personally can do. To travel long distances you get into a big flying tube that leaves you completely at the mercy of othe
asciilifeform: oughtn't it be in the king's inglisch then ?
mircea_popescu: heh. usians don't want to work no more. news at 99:99
nubbins`: nah i don't crochet
mircea_popescu: you know they don't seem to exist here ?
mircea_popescu: no state ever created anything. it was another mircea that carried the fucking head of the turk pasha after that one failed crusade when all of europe ran off and the us wasn't invented yet.
mircea_popescu: so... take teh "oh you didn't create" talk an' dangle.
asciilifeform: then to herr dutch you are a dragon and don't exist
assbot: Steve Dutch: Forget Third Parties: We Need a Fourth Party, (And Why We Won't Get One) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JTpDdY )
asciilifeform: 'You did virtually nothing to create the conveniences you enjoy. The retirement plan 300 years ago was: get up, go to work, come home, go to bed, repeat. Then one day, you didn't get up because you were dead. ' << mega-clairvoyant! knows my retirement plan!
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i kinda don't look at that part, because plenty of orthodox nuts otherwise very intelligent.
asciilifeform: didn't know they made those any more.
mircea_popescu: "Hey, who wouldn't vote for Morgan Freeman? Obama is unabashedly liberal, intelligent, and acts like he knows it. He's "uppity." People who think they're superior run headlong into someone who is superior, and they don't like it."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except they weren't also hosted ?
mircea_popescu: not even a weapon. they also don't craft houses, or water pipes.
asciilifeform: 'goblins don't craft weapons'
mircea_popescu: "Mostly it's laziness (or shallowness) and an attempt to seize the moral high ground. It's hard to defend specific issues when you're confronted by someone who simply rejects your basic premises. How do you find out what lines of argument they would find persuasive? (Hint: ask them. Say "what exactly would you accept as proof that I'm right?" Most of the time they don't have a clue, because most people only think about
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski nah, didn't write up brazil.
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1p6K0xGKd0 << for non-canuckians who don't know the legacy of hal johnson and joanne mcleod
pete_dushenski: trinque: i haven't seen it myself, seen it in the logs who knows how many times
pete_dushenski: don't suppose you have brazil and can post as well
kakobrekla just saw a 1990 movie 'Hardware', subtitled 'you can't stop pr0gr355'
mircea_popescu: uh... what does he mean women "won't do this" ?!
BingoBoingo: gernika: Nubian isn't West African