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Luke-Jr: also, MD5 is not safe for this
nubbins`: did YOU save the MD5 sums? 8)
nubbins`: it's all in easily-digestible chunks, no sweat to eyeball each patch & fully understand what's going on
mod6: but i'll publish it to the list with some refinements before the end of the month
nubbins`: start with chicken.tar.gz and go from there
nubbins`: tracking down vintage 0.5.3 and applying .foundation patches = fun times
Luke-Jr: https://gitorious.org/bitcoin/bitcoind-stable/commit/b4e9cd8e8ab310bf341103bac1e9640e27cc7488 is also informative in that respect
assbot: Bugfix: Bump lk_max_locks default to 537000, to safely handle reorgs ... - Gitorious ... ( http://bit.ly/1577ozQ )
Luke-Jr: https://gitorious.org/bitcoin/bitcoind-stable/commit/4a89522c22e07a640463292b212ecdf31037a8c4 is the 0.4.x commit for the hardfork
Luke-Jr: ie, those limits are for the wallet
Luke-Jr: decimation: Bitcoin Core does not use bdb for the blockchain
Luke-Jr: including through the 0.8.1 hardfork
Luke-Jr: I maintained that up until Sep 2013
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: 0.4.9rc3 should work I think
nubbins`: or rather, that 0.5.3 was the point at which no further breaking changes were implemented
nubbins`: it was decided that 0.5.3 was the earliest that'd still work.
felipelalli: MPEx are going to negotiate Gavin Coins?
Luke-Jr: not sure why this patch is reducing set_lg_max..
Luke-Jr: the 0.5.x backport just changed set_lk_max_locks to 537000
mod6: which are those?
Luke-Jr: I think the db_config patch may explain why it works, but could be potentially inadequate for the current consensus rules ☟︎
mod6: i cant believe im going to do this
Luke-Jr compares with the 0.5.x backport of the hardfork
undata: that one diddles the knobs on bdb
decimation: do you have a document describing what exactly changed in this hardfork?
Luke-Jr: ok, so how are you getting it to work without the hardfork?
mod6: dude, that was published on the 1st of january.
Luke-Jr: it can't, if you don't have the 0.8.1 hardfork patched in.. ☟︎
mod6: there is not anything post v0.5.3 patched in at this point.
Luke-Jr: decimation: why do I care about the author?
Luke-Jr: which patch contains the post-0.5.3 hardforks?
decimation: Luke-Jr: how do you discern the trustworthiness of the author?
mod6: Well, that's what there is: the v0.5.3 base + patch files.
Luke-Jr: what are the patches even against in the first place?
Luke-Jr: I don't want patches, I want the complete code.
mod6: Although the rm_checkpoints one will probably be tabled before the end of the month.
mod6: If you don't want to bother digging through the mailing list for patches, you can just dl the tarballs under "Submitted Patches" on thebitcoin.foundation site
Luke-Jr: I see no tar, except a build
mod6: Luke-Jr: not even sure where you found that link..
asciilifeform: see the code << they haven't a copy of 'tar' ?
mod6: what's the link?
mircea_popescu: jurov << ppl be complaining they can't see teh code ?
Luke-Jr: is there a place I can see the code? the ML archives linked a github, but it is 404
undata: danielpbarron: damned quick on the twitter draw
Luke-Jr: so is this a Bitcoin Core fork?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla hey is there going to be a party on the log's 1mn th line ?
assbot: ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ykLRzl )
mircea_popescu: including the actual bitcoin foundation is the correct move there. mod6 ben_vulpes are in charge. ☟︎
Luke-Jr: so unless you think dogmatically blocksize must remain 1 MB forever.. tell him what needs to happen to make you comfortable with it
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: Gavin wants to know what has to happen for people to agree to it - he isn't trying to force it through without consensus
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: did you read the discussion earlier in #bitcoin-dev ? nobody is going to just go along with this as it is right now.
mircea_popescu: yeah, you did. you were promised one thing, got another thing, they told you "it's just as good, pretend like you got the original". and you did. becauser you believed them, that delivery's imminent and errything.
Luke-Jr: when he proposes it, then people can argue for/against it, and either it will gain consensus or it won't
mircea_popescu: i will just remind you that you actually believed the bfl scammers, and stained your own beard lieing about THAT delivery.
mircea_popescu: and what lies gavin is sprouting to an eager ear... his problem.
mircea_popescu: there is no "community" agreement. reddit isn;'t the community.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: there isn't anything yet, he hasn't even proposed one
Luke-Jr: a real hardfork is one where the community is in agreement on it
mircea_popescu: exactly what this is.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book.
mircea_popescu: perhaps as valuable as an ethereum node, that.
mircea_popescu: as far as hardforking goes." << the downside of a hardfork is that every user that buys into the gavin scam will be left without a bitcoin node.
mircea_popescu: "Downsides of a hardfork are simply that all nodes who do not go along with the upgrade are left without a functioning Bitcoin node, and susceptible to fraud (double spending, etc). This means a mandatory update of every node in the wild, which could require hardware upgrades as well. Miners are not in any special position to decide a hardfork, and are at the mercy of the bitcoin users (mainly merchants and exchanges)
assbot: You rated user Luke-Jr on 24-Jul-2014, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: VERY old history of being untrustworthy. See http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2014#767750 or inquire within.
mike_c: ;;later tell BingoBoingo draft submitted
undata: warning to neti-pot users: same thing can happen... boil the water
decimation: sometimes the lake swims in you
mats: that's terrifying
decimation: it lives in warm freshwater, and finds that human brains are tastey
decimation: re: lake havasu < connecting to your medical deal, several people have died swimming in that lake as I recall http://www.havasunews.com/news/new-reports-of-rare-brain-infections-surfacing/article_adadef24-056a-11e3-b7a8-001a4bcf887a.html
mircea_popescu: One night, Charles Manners (Lord Lieutenant of Ireland) appeared in the regal box at the theatre on the same night that Peg was attending the show with her girls. Some wags in the gallery began shouting at her “Oy Peg! Who slept with you last night, Peg?” Peg gave them an imperious look, threw a dramatic glance at the Lord Lieutenant and in a scolding tone, said: “Manners, you dogs!”
mircea_popescu: i was thinking umm lake havasu wtf.
mircea_popescu: "Question: Why would I go to the fucking dumpy ass trailer park called Lake Havasu when I am currently living in Carefree and 10 minutes from Scottsdale?" lol i was waiting for this.
asciilifeform: a real ripper of a time!
mircea_popescu: the type of plague that destroys the medical community, that guy.
mircea_popescu: AS IF THEY WERENT GENTLEMEN
mircea_popescu: right about at the time they tarred and feathered that asinine idiot who said they should wash hands ☟︎
asciilifeform: anyone who has read medical treatises from as little as two centuries ago, will see a place for gavin et al in that profession
asciilifeform: that other kind - that was (and some would say still is!) - medicine.
mircea_popescu: genders don't preserve through the eons, they bleed. the french soldier of 1800 wasn't a soldier in 1750. he was a peasant.
mircea_popescu: there weren't as many of these.
mircea_popescu: old men pretending to be teaching the young'uns "trigonometry" who thought pi = 3.
asciilifeform: neh, he'd travel from town to town and proclaim that he'll fell tree with the power of farts
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that he'd have a complex story as to how earthworms cause trees to flower
mircea_popescu: if gavin were a blacksmith, he probably would have passed for a good one. if this guy were an actual lumberjack, he'd probably have counted for a fine lumberjack.
mircea_popescu: fifty or five hundred years ago, that wasn't a crowd. it was sole individuals, and the idiots were still a crowd.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i mean it deeper than that. i mean, actual quacks passing for professionals. see, since the internet there's a line being drawn : sure both gavin and wood dude pass to a certain crowd as idiots for the genuine article. but there exists a thinking crowd that sees through it.
asciilifeform: buried in ten thousand 'get rich growing turtles / sorting pigs / ... / ... - guaranteed'
asciilifeform: 'improve your memory, guaranteed, with scientology therapy.' ('popular mechanics,' 1958. classified ad.)
asciilifeform: i'm rather fond of old magazines. (mid 20th c. to late '70s, in particular.) the american ones are hilariously rich in sc4mz0r1ng
mircea_popescu: the funny thing (to me) here is, gotany idea how much of this shit floated before there was an internet ?
asciilifeform: in BingoBoingo's words, the arse shapes the turd.
mircea_popescu: the river shapes the rocks, right ?
mircea_popescu: he can still prove it to you, but only secretly and if oyu agree.
mircea_popescu: "I can and will still prove to you that Nubbins is full of shit and on a smear campaign, i am now just choosing to do so directly with the people who matter, not every tom dick and harry that thinks they know a darn thing about woodworking"
asciilifeform: unless there is some unusually reliable record of the past concerning the object
asciilifeform: speaking of diamonds (specifically of the synthetic variety), one possible observation here - not concerning the idiocy of the wood thing as such - is that anyone demanding a specific 'colour' (as per the 'monolith' essay) - i.e. provenance - of object, is begging to be chumped ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's like a diamond, depends which way the light falls.
mircea_popescu: hard to tell, this.
asciilifeform: for sheer idiocy of the expected chump