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mod6: Fair enough. I still would like to see it continue.
mod6: Solid question, we'll address that in the next draft, if there is even to be one.
mod6: I'm not seeing it show up yet, maybe copy that text just to be sure. I think we're still working out the kinks on that.
mod6: ben_vulpes, BingoBoingo, asciilifeform : Keep me honest here, am I missing / forgetting anything else that needs to be unearthed?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> last call on this matter : are the surprises done or is there more exoticism waiting to be sprung on innocents ? << The only agreement not stated in the charter was indeed, stated in here, that alf doesn't want to be involved with mircea_popescu as backseat driver.
mod6: Well, that was the idea. Maybe not a great one.
mod6: And probably should be somehow put out to pasture.
mod6: I'm starting to agree that the foundation is not useful.
mod6: I don't think 'sheild/ralying' flag. More of "is this thing useful". Much to your question that I tackled you about a few weeks back.
mod6: However, #5 seems like a blocker.
mod6: I could step up and remove the foundation from the entire thing, and put in my own coin.
mod6: It's no secret that we need mircea_popescu's, hanbot, and S.MG's business.
mod6: So by using the foundation's endowment the idea was here, "the foundation is doing something", as opposed to "mod6 doing something". That was the idea.
mod6: I'd note that we were a bit reluctant to do this to begin with -- hence the late entrance to the venture. I think we were hoping that others would step and run it, but alas, no one did.
mod6: Yeah, had discussions around it -- The first sentence in paragraph three kinda covers most of it.
mod6: Totally srs too tho!
mod6: Ok, that makes sense to me.
mod6: (fwiw, I mearly read ".8 BTC debt to MP" as something of a personal loan to BB since he was owner)
mod6: I may, indeed, need some education on basic finance. When it came to the .8 BTC owed to you, I never figured in anything like that. Are there terms that we were unaware of? Do you feel owed more than .8 BTC?
mod6: Alright, well, I think I might be missing something between the lines.
mod6: you figure, one in ten should make it, then you get your 5%.
mod6: (Am I following here?)
mod6: Alright, so as things in a start-up start to go south business-wise, for whatever reason, i.e. product sucks, whatever, the corresponding revenue/credit crunch makes it more and more difficult to service the debt.
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, in this sense -- 33% being the indemnity cost?
mod6: Something extra in return.
mod6: Fair enough, I may have just looked at the debt to be paid to you at face value -- just a simple bill that needed to be paid, as opposed to 'bonds' or something else.
mod6: Any idea the cost, ballpark?
mod6: I'm assuming the cost for these won't sink us right
mod6: I expect quick turn around on questions -- As when emailing support, most queries can be responded to quickly. Others, maybe take 24-48 hours to have sorted.
mod6: If I don't know the answer straight off, will ask ben_vulpes or whomever needs to be asked.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes / mod6 do you want these ? (which one of you do i talk about re day to day bbisp bidniss ?). << you can talk to me any time about these things, or anything else really.
mod6: monin', catchin up here.
mod6: However, each man gets to decide if he wants to partake in the Republic. Mr. Popescu always said he would eventually leave. And I respect that. Just wish it wasn't in anger.
mod6: That we did. And I for one, would love to see Mr. Popescu to come back and be the father to the republic.
mod6: Alright then. It'll be really helpful I think for all of us. I, for one, literally have like 69000 things to keep up with these days.
mod6: Do you believe that would add some comfort?
mod6: hanbot: I can't speak for asciilifeform and make him state things. But, perhaps if we kept a public calendar of what is happening when, might give the public some comfort that tasks are getting completed on time.
mod6: I would like to see asciilifeform and mircea_popescu somehow come back to the table and continue their very important work together.
mod6: Furthermore, I may be the only investor left in S.NSA, and I would very much like to see it continue.
☟︎ mod6: hanbot: i don't expect anyones "blind spots" or "deficiantcies" to go away over night. we'll work with him to make sure things happen they way they need to do so, when they need to do so.
mod6: <+trinque> gotta also admit that the enemy will not wait for you to be done with your superweapon. << also totally true.
mod6: But I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
mod6: After the first "Hey, we're getting FGs for xmas!" And then it didn't come, for like 2 more xmas's... i could have simply negrated him.
mod6: I mean look, here's an example: I waited like nearly 4 years for an FG. But he delivered, and it works. It's a marvel, this FG. I think the fact that we have it, and it works, is more important than how long it took to realize.
mod6: I have too, and I recently read the entire thread on diana_coman's blog too. The whole thing. I know shortcomings have impacted lots of things. He's not the only one guitly of that. And even though I don't excuse anyones failures, I'm going to forgive. We've gained more than we've lost. In my estimation.
mod6: Well, no one is perfect right.
mod6: Because he said he would. And asciilifeform has done a lot for us over the years. Invaluable things. Dispite, failures. I've failed too, hopefully I'm getting better also.
mod6: Weather men admit wrongdoing or not, my hope is that men learn from the previous mistakes.
mod6: I don't think so at all. His role is outlined in the drafted document we posted above.
mod6: I guess I'll also add this: I agree that logging is very important. But lately, in here, emotions have been running high. And while trying to figure out the details, I need to focus and not read through hundreds of lines of cross talk and bickering.
mod6: Does that satisfy your curiosity?
mod6: There isn't anything to hide. We've been forthcoming about the entire venture.
mod6: Quite frankly, and I hope BB doesn't mind me saying so, we kinda needed to even talk him into it. I think he was in quite a state of dismay at the whole thing. And I find it appropriate that we did that.
mod6: Things like, what the bills were, where they need to be sent, who would do what. This kind of thing.
☟︎ mod6: I wanted to give us some space to find out the details, to discuss everything involved. I for one, even having been in #trilema the entire time, and even having read BB's blog posts about BBISP, I still wanted to give BB the space to discuss with us all the details.
mod6: This was my decision.
mod6: Sure, feel free to stop into #pizarro or follow along in the logs!
mod6: Ugh, sorry to hear that.
mod6: Everyone is invited, no need to be shy.
mod6: Ah. Yea maybe they can fix.
mod6: Pizarro, The Republican ISP's offical channel is now: #pizarro
mod6: Stand-by, we're trying to get that communicaiton out now. I'm reading the things.
mod6: This is the moment when you affirm your support, or you do not, and throw your hat in the ring to take the reigns from mod6.
☟︎ mod6: But I'll not sit by and watch a bunch of in-fighting embarrass all the hardwork and effort we've put in. I'd rather burn out, than fade away.
mod6: I'll repeat myself: If you want a republic to exist, and you believe the foundation to be a good thing, support us. I've given seven years. Maybe it's time for someone who knows better than ole mod6.
mod6: diana_coman, hanbot, same offer stands to you as well.
mod6: <+trinque> I don't think now's the time for that. lest rustled jimmies, not more. << Ok, well let me know if you want to. I'm ready to step down and take my leave of all of this.
mod6: trinque: I think you'd be a suitable replacement for me.
mod6: Debt is not an investment.
mod6: Debt, is debt diana_coman. Nothing more.
mod6: trinque: would you like to take over my spot as Co-Chairman to the Bitcoin Foundation?