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mircea_popescu: ave remained entirely without note. Unfortunately someone decided
to promote him from advising ways for an arcade could extract more money from chumps
to managing
the finances of a populated area
that is still by some miracle, in some form a sovereign state with a government.
mircea_popescu: One piece of fallout from
the recent SYRIZA win in Greece's election is
the appointment of Yanis Varoufakis, most notable for
tinkering with Valve's Steam video game marketplace
to
the position of Finance Minister. Yanis Varoufakis is much less notable for in
the spring of 2013 writing one of
the many essays naively assailing Bitcoin as some sort of impossible fantasy incapable of anything, an essay
that safely could h
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you definitely impose contorted grammar upon
the reading public.
BingoBoingo: * decimation would prefer
to humbly submit
to
the silent dance of
the celestial spheres, as man has done for all known
time << You do realize if you
try
to advance critical
theory past Kant you buffer overflwo straight back
to Hume. It is an ugly loop.
BingoBoingo: adlai: In my experience MPIF invest in
the person with
the
trading device instead of moneyed buffer intermediary
BingoBoingo: decimation: Man has never done
that since ptolemy
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I
think adlai mentioned it assuming an intermediary being necessary not knowing
that MPIF is direct.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: adlai no dude, weren't you looking
to run a PC based on it ?
decimation would prefer
to humbly submit
to
the silent dance of
the celestial spheres, as man has done for all known
time
☟︎ BingoBoingo: decimation:
The point is I am
the one who imposes
time onto
the manifold of
the unintuited world and not
the reverse.
adlai: mircea_popescu: it really depends what
that capital is for. for funding further development of
the bot? not much, feature by feature, i'm not looking for a vc-style investment. for
testing
the algorithm on larger amounts,
to see how
the strategy scales up? right now,
two digit btc sum, more as progress permits.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Only hourly corrections for DST, but I do
that based on raw feels.
decimation: BingoBoingo: did you set it in
those 8 years?
BingoBoingo: spring operated wrist mounted
time standard is only 1.5 minutes off of ntp reported
time in 8 years of constant operation.
decimation: asciilifeform: did you have
to patch gcc
to fix
the bug you posted
the other day?
decimation feels sorry for
the poor celestial navigator who is
thrown off
the
timebase bus
mod6: asciilifeform: sweet. what'd ya have
to patch?
gribble: adlai was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <Adlai> 'want' is a strong word. i'm suggesting it as a possibility,
to an intrepid [General] Manager
mircea_popescu: maybe
the blockchain
that messes up seconds is a minute off over
ten
trillion years. whereas cesium clocks, .855% off
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Latest qntra piece I
took
the opportunity
to empty
the venom sacks a bit on new Derpolis. Pete apparently leik'd it.
mircea_popescu: how about
the effects of gravity! how about
the effects of universe expanding! how abvout etc.
Dimsler: what about
the effects of dark matter on subatomic particles
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ima
try an' catch up. apparently can't sleep
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: About 500 ml of 80 proof vodka
tonight. Making up for
the bender
this past weekend could have been. After reddit IRL I need
to clean
the slate with a strong solvent.
BingoBoingo still maintains official apperception independent
time standard off of wound spring.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that's why i laid into him. he wanted micro precision somehow magically over macro spans.
mircea_popescu: "hey check it out, as long as im measuring atom
transitions by atom
transitions, atom
transitions do not appear
to misbehave!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as long as
that determination was made in a certain system
that precludes so and so :)
mircea_popescu: such as, contracts. "rent
this appartment for 50`000 blocks"
decimation: sure. but note
that
the precision is measureably poor
decimation: mircea_popescu:
the question, as I stated earlier, is whether 'rotation of
the earth about axis' or 'number of vibrations of cesium' is your
timebase
mircea_popescu: we can agree
that any convention is provably broken.
that's by definition.
BingoBoingo: Space similarly, not a property of "nature", but imposed upon nature by
the apperception
mircea_popescu: EXACTLY. same argument bolsters
the "time in blocks" conventionb.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "they had
to act inconsistently
to maintain a certain facade of consistency"
mircea_popescu: note, re
the "replication"
that recently
they were stuck adding a 2nd 3rd second off midnight,
decimation: isn't
that what your processor is doing right now?
mircea_popescu: standards generally are a recent
thing. but
time is particularly iffy when you
try
to bridge what's fundamentally unbridgeable
decimation: yeah, I am inaccurately using
the word 'accuracy'
mircea_popescu: even
the other kind is a convention rather
than a factual point at subsecond accuracy across decades
BingoBoingo: Time is not a feature of physics. It is imposed by
the apperception upon
the manifold.
mircea_popescu: time as anything other
than arbitrary convention is a hard proposition.
mod6: looks ok on
that box
decimation: mircea_popescu: well,
the way it works now,
to my understanding, is
that
there's a kind of wot among high-spec clocks
mircea_popescu: note
that merely *thinking* you do, or "not being able
to find otherwise" can
trivially be replicated by
the conventional model he proposes.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Maybe? Only
the fucking white ford F-150 which until mention in chan
that bombarded my domicile with microwaves knows for sure.
mod6: lemme see on
this pcbsd box, its set
to 1024x768
mod6: asciilifeform: what size display do you ya have? i checked it out with lynx
too, looks pcool.
decimation: sure. do you have a clock
that will but sub-second accurate across decades?
BingoBoingo: decimation: GPS
time is USG
turd. Want
to be able
to keep own clock.
decimation:
http://www.leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm " GPS, Global Positioning System
time, is
the atomic
time scale implemented by
the atomic clocks in
the GPS ground control stations and
the GPS satellites
themselves. GPS
time was zero at 0h 6-Jan-1980 and since it is not perturbed by leap seconds GPS is now ahead of UTC by 16 seconds. "
decimation: BingoBoingo: well, if
the atomic clock is your
timekeeper,
than leap seconds are silly
mod6: decimation:
thanks!
mod6: BingoBoingo: werd. been consider switchin
to hard-core mode.
mod6: does anyone like
thebitcoin.foundation/banner.html ?
BingoBoingo: Why should
the measurement of
time suffer for
the insufficiencies of celestial body movement.
BingoBoingo: Let
time stay constant. If planetary rotation slows acknowledge
that as
the problem.
BingoBoingo: decimation: You forget I am one of
the luck ones who sleeps ad libitum, who
through
the #b-a logs primarily judges
time in GMT in spite of proximity
to 90 degrees west
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2014 04:19:25; mircea_popescu: Oh? And when
the last law was down, and
the Devil
turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper,
the laws all being flat?
This country is planted
thick with laws, from coast
to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut
them down, and you're just
the man
to do it, do you really
think you could stand upright in
the winds
that would blow
then?
mod6: so i added
the file direct
to
the website, along with
the sig file
mod6: ok, so i sent
the build.sh script in plaintext with a detached sig
to
the mailing and it just never showed up. lol
danielpbarron: a second will henceforth be known as 1 six-hundredth of
the average
time it
takes for a bitcoin block
to be found
decimation: right now it's
the rotation of
the earth, even
though it varies
decimation: well,
the whole
thing comes down
to
this: what ought
to govern
the period of a day?
the rotation of
the earth or a random clock?
BingoBoingo: Ah, but
time zones have everything
to do with
the imprecision people are willing
to accept when it comes
to
time
decimation: time zones have nothing
to do with leap seconds
decimation: a leap second is literally correcting for
the fact
that a cesium atom vibrates with more precision
than
the earth spins about its axis
BingoBoingo: decimation: And
the boundaries of fiat
timezones are any better?