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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo " in that is discards the organized theft and poverty cultured by socialism" << in that is discards the organized theft and the poverty cultured by socialism. if you enumerate gotta keep all elements in the same degree of articledness.
mod6: yeah. it ate that one of mine too. its hungry.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 check plz ? << i don't see anything in the mailing list
mircea_popescu: line up and skirts over head bitches, there's no decency in sight.
mircea_popescu: a) "stagnation" is not the ultimate evil. that fake dilemma. b) seriously, the only "decent" way ?
asciilifeform: (if don't know, learn where the x GHz clock comes from. pll multiplicator of an ordinary quartz! compounded error)
mircea_popescu: which such control can be exercised is through a democratic, collective agency."
mircea_popescu: "The reason that money is and can only be political is that the only way of steering a course between the Scylla and Charybdis of dangerous ponzi growth and stagnation is to exercise a degree of rational, collective control over the supply of money. And since this control is bound to be political, in the sense that different monetary policies will affect different groups of people differently, the only decent manner in
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2014 23:47:17; asciilifeform: likewise - perhaps there is no need to point this out, but the linux/bsd kernel is also not a scientific instrument.
decimation: yeah it's not really able to measure 1 ns with precision
asciilifeform: decimation: prolly tick counter
decimation: interesting, they must have some kind of functional timer
adlai: mircea_popescu: scalpl has existed for less than a year. puberty rarely starts in less than a decade. by this metric, i'm optimistic!
decimation: that's actually not too bad
BingoBoingo: Now now, apparently distributive justice is a concept white people who redefine queer to no longer mean gay take seriouslu
mircea_popescu: decimation asciilifeform only q is, does it take less than 10 mins per block.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo " can indeed wield the power of capital thwart assaults on " < to.
decimation: asciilifeform: I imagine the pogo is slow as balls
asciilifeform: btw that thing is running on me pogo now.
mircea_popescu: "First, the bitcoin social economy is bound to be typified by chronic deflation. Secondly, we have already seen the rise of a bitcoin aristocracy (a term ‘coined’ by Greek blogger @techiechan) which, besides the issues of distributive justice which it raises"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "rewarded with private profits while the losses are socialize eliminating risk"
asciilifeform: and i suppose by assuming a 32bit mysteryturd for the type.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if memory serves it worked by "ignore missing deps" flag at compile time lol
decimation: too lazy to build patch sorry :(
decimation: I had to do that to make it build on openbsd
decimation: i remember that dep. hell
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: When hardware replaces pile cooked by fucking NetPG will try. Worst BSD experience ever. Would not lament painful demise of NetBSD devs responsible for that abortion.
asciilifeform: (why? see thread http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2015#994353 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: not even the bdb locks patch
asciilifeform: but realized that me tree's out of date
asciilifeform: dear glub. why this did not exist before.
asciilifeform: anyone with exotic cpu he wants to try, is invited to replace the armv5 cross-gcc with his
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know. im prepping your packager so you don't have to do it yourself.
Apocalyptic: re self-centered cultures, I recently stumbled upon Bridgewater, a hedge fund that mainstream media often described as "a cult". It shares several concepts with b-a
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is not the pogo autodeflorator yet
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron drop an address i'll send you a few dollah so you can buy yourself a few pogos to try it all out on.
asciilifeform: just replace the cross-compile gcc with your normal one.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron wouldja be willing to package asciilifeform's final pogo stuff into a very detailed, any noob can get it post ?
asciilifeform: oh don't forget the patch.
asciilifeform: user supplies them.
asciilifeform: using given turdballs of 'openssl', 'bdb', 'boost'.
asciilifeform: nothing directly to do with the 'pogo' - that's a separate one, that isn't ready to show yet
mircea_popescu: as it is, it dun exist. has to have rounded corners yo! but anyway! let's do packaging separately.
adlai: mircea_popescu: the problem is that i'm not certain what's the best arrangement. the "fx bot" currently runs on 3 btc/fiat exchanges, but that's not necessarily the best place to run it, and i'm not sure that i'm the best person to handle the "get btc from investors to exchange and back" side of things
asciilifeform: it's in there!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you going to write a full step by step guide and publish on blog ?
decimation: mircea_popescu: absolutely, the 'harvard elite' are very much a cult that happens to be in fashion
asciilifeform: for any machine you like that has gcc
mircea_popescu: the sad fact of the matter is that ONLY THEY DO. and the current libertardism of the us was exactly b-a back in the 70s.
asciilifeform: well anyway, i'm back to putting patches on my site
mircea_popescu: decimation incidentally, for all the idiots who imagine (well, wish to believe, and so do believe) that b-a is "a cult" or that well designed, self-centered cultures do not prevail irl...
asciilifeform: on therealbitcoin.org
decimation: Destructive War, he mentions a foreign traveler in 1864 who asked some random American to explain the war. "It's the conquest of America by Massachusetts," was the answer. Massachusetts, of course, later went on to conquer first Europe and then the entire planet, the views of whose elites as of 2007 bear a surprisingly coincidental resemblance to those held at Harvard in 1945. But I digress.)"
assbot: Unqualified Reservations: Why conservatives never quite catch the boat ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1g2fN )
decimation: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/06/why-conservatives-never-quite-catch.html < "The Brahmins, universalists, ultracalvinists, etc, do not hate "our culture" at all. They have a very distinct culture of their own - with a family tree that spends a remarkable amount of time in Massachusetts, upstate New York, etc, etc. (In Charles Royster's excellent and only mildly neo-Unionist picture of the Civil War, The
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought you just said it worked a moment ago ?
asciilifeform: i think i was the first one to actually run something from the www output end of turdatron today
adlai: what's the MPIA?
asciilifeform: yes jurov's thing ate it silently.
mircea_popescu: Dimsler yeah, "trade" is not "give me free shit while i tan". how did that silly quote go, "And so on. The three men ended up working like dogs, using all the skills developed by trial and error in their first few weeks – building a hut, fish, trying to get the women to forage. The women continued to bitch and sunbathe."
Dimsler: decimation, i can assure you most of the larger cities are pretty much dumps
BingoBoingo: adlai: In my mpif experience if an exchange or asset looks like it is becoming imminently untenable the MPIA will tell you to bail and when.
mircea_popescu: decimation not too far off.
Dimsler: what he didn't see was that the trade was onsided, inexchange for a bunch of debt
decimation: as an american, I see germany as a theme park filled with stuffed animals, spouting libtard-ideology
mircea_popescu: adlai dude, you're making yourself impossible to follow. i thought you wrote a fx bot that works on 2-3 exchanges currenty and you're looking to finance it.
Dimsler: "Simon Heffer wrote in 2011 "Where Hitler failed by military means to conquer Europe, modern Germans are succeeding through trade and financial discipline. Welcome to the Fourth Reich."
adlai: what's mpex, a text-based casino?
Dimsler: decimation, i believe simon heffer rejuvenated that idea back in 2011
mircea_popescu: don't you need it to be on whatever exchange ?
adlai wants to minimize counterparty risk. if mp is investing in a trading shop, why should mp's money leave mp's ex?
mircea_popescu: <decimation> of course the ideology of that fourth reich was harvard circa 1945 << very astute observation.
mircea_popescu: adlai you don't have to have a mpex account to be a pc manager if that's what yer asking.
asciilifeform: mod6, jurov: no idea if the turdatron actually works though
decimation: of course the ideology of that fourth reich was harvard circa 1945
adlai: mircea_popescu: question: could a profit center be run within mpex/coinbr? ie, the extent of "you get some btc" would be crediting an account? kinda like how margin is described in the mpex faq.
mircea_popescu: what, the french in alger, the belgians in congo, the erryone errywhere.
mircea_popescu: what exactly do you think take overs are ?
Dimsler: the fourth reich take over of europe ultimatly ended in a wealth transfer scheme and a failing currency
Dimsler: yes and all those euros that flew in to build roads
mircea_popescu: cost about as much as the vouchers paid. 3-5kish
mircea_popescu: thousands of dacias sailed out of timisoara EACH DAY by train, for over a year
mircea_popescu: Dimsler but at great gain to the quality of life of the average romanian. and to a lesser degree, frenchman.
BingoBoingo: My spirit animal though is a most likely a wound spring. It used to be a wood chuck until Preston Byrne appropriated them and relabled them all fucking marmots.
Dimsler: decimation, at great cost to the quality of life for the average german
decimation: Dimsler: note that the 'free bmw' plan also allowed germany to 'increase' its gdp
mircea_popescu: i think it's so tense and comma-tose because you're too tight. gotta learn to relax without liquor.
Apocalyptic: trinque, by the way how's deedbot coming along ?
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Amazingly all but the last two paragraph happened before I acquired vodka.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yanis did write more naive Bitcoin essays by they came later.
Dimsler: the fourth reich europe domination has proven to be a failure, instead of bodies all the tanned skin loungers got a free bmw or merc
mircea_popescu: adlai so that's how it works. you get some btc, publish your trades, etc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Dimsler fat chance of that. you folk will need tyo go beat all the gypos over the head again, and then the brits will burn berlin because 'o noes' again.
adlai: i'm familiar with the overall idea, although i couldn't recite its returns from memory
mircea_popescu: adlai you ever looked into the workings of panacea ? and mike_c's tracking thereof ?
Dimsler: mircea_popescu, good riddance, maybe the euro will go back to being called the deutsch mark like it really is
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2015 05:24:23; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think adlai mentioned it assuming an intermediary being necessary not knowing that MPIF is direct.
mircea_popescu: adlai "mpif is direct", where's that from ?
mircea_popescu: ially it may seem unfortunate that someone decided to promote him from penny arcade optimisations to managing the finances of a populated area that to some degree still succeeds in putting forth the pretense of a sovereign state, with a government and everything. Upon further consideration, you will notice it's exactly adequate.
mircea_popescu: One piece of fallout from SYRIZA's recent win in Greec is the appointment of Yanis Varoufakis (mostly remembered for tinkering with Valve's Steam marketplace) to the position of Finance Minister. Yanis Varoufakis could also be less charitably remembered for penning numerous naive essays throughout the Spring of 2013, dedicated to misrepresenting Bitcoin as some sort of impossible fantasy incapable of anything. Superfic