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BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mwf22/huobi_reboots_stock_generationstyle_ponzi_scheme/ << Now there's a reddit to make sure the OKcoin model can be highlighted as broken too
trixisowned: is portraying it as if
trixisowned: ive noticed multiple people trying to portray huobi as the bad one
BingoBoingo: <trixisowned> Maybe you should warn about ALL of the futures exchanges rather than portraying yourself as biased.
mircea_popescu: Companies 10 and 11 promised monthly returns of 50% and 100% (later 40% and 70%) respectively. At the same time, share prices could plummet 50% for company 10 and 100% (e.g. all the way down to 0) for company 11. That caveat (known as Rule 18) was another way for StockGeneration to justify their claims that this was a gambling website, rather than an investment vehicle.
thestringpuller: MMM is funny as shit though.
mircea_popescu: decimation: Google: "Q: who owns the internet? A: nobody" << fuck you << i imagine they're talking of the whole enchillada, as opposed to the parts thereof.
asciilifeform: most folks here are as likely to escape as dolphin from national aquarium.
asciilifeform: (for n00bs - a vanity-exchanged currency is approximately as useful outside of the border of demented issuing state as vegas poker chip is outside of vegas)
asciilifeform: as in, where'll they put the fools who show up
mircea_popescu: "Vitalik Buterin beat Mark Zuckerberg for the 2014 World Technology Network award in IT software. The award is presented for Buterin's role as co-creator and inventor of Ethereum which has yet to exist and co-founding Bitcoin Magazine. "
asciilifeform: (genuinely own, as in, ttl logic)
decimation: http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2014/06/10/why-qualcomms-royalty-revenue-will-continue-to-decline/ << " Qualcomm’s royalty rate for LTE-only is about 125 basis points lower than for 3G. As the industry transitions from the 3G to 4G technology, Qualcomm’s average royalty rate will come under pressure."
asciilifeform: as in, circuit that vendor did not look into and is in fact contractually obligated to at least pretend not to.
decimation: and if you are going to run something in huge quantities, might as well make asic
kakobrekla: what do you mean if i have to restart it, i have to restart it every 6 hours as it leaks blood
PeterL: yeah, one of them, hence why I mentioned it along with Nephi as a Utah city
asciilifeform: as if i knew
cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2mt0bu/if_you_are_the_hacker_who_was_using_my_computer/ ouch! who installs teamviewer on same pc as a wallet with 50 btc?
BingoBoingo: <mike_c> did they unbreak it? << Reading up on the surgery today what the surgeon probably did was open it up to clear out the colugulated blood, sutured the broken boner fascia, and then put the whole thing back together as best they can
davout: as in name-mapped in my hosts file?
cazalla: davout, it's down here too, all morning as well as last night before zzz
assbot: Logged on 19-11-2014 19:36:54; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unreleased for the same reason as your bitcoind
BingoBoingo: The concept of the motorcycle also leaves me a bit wary as it can be heisted by a cheap angry compact pickup truck
asciilifeform: e.g., someone, somewhere, is loading a bolt into a cranequin as we speak.
wao: yeah, I plan refactor whole coinroll code and convert it to responsive web, as now it's fixed :|
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's sad yo, back as a wee kitten in romania i had a lotta respect for the whole shebang.
mircea_popescu: the entire fucking movement is in point of fact about as related to the reality of computers as party clowns are related to fucking.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unreleased for the same reason as your bitcoind ☟︎
thestringpuller: how apple managed to get everyone to use them as a payment processor really kinda mind boggles me
kakobrekla: and they got 16kg of it but ru doesnt make it anymore as well
nubbins`: "As of October 2014, Pi Wallet is currently sold out"
xanthyos: i hope that's not seen as a troll
xanthyos: i'd have been dead as a child
xanthyos: but then it'll be out there forever to be used against me as a joke later
xanthyos: PEOPLE THINK I TRoll because no one on the internet is as overt as i am
mircea_popescu: well obviously race as a legal concept is going to diverge from sanity.
gribble: Error: You provided an empty string as argument. Your command: ;;gettrust [ident dartv].
xanthyos: [12:12:17 AM] eric: i saw that fuck slater come on earlier with "weboftrust" as nis name to troll sophie and me when we were on tinychatr
mircea_popescu: https://www.blocklist.de/en/search.html?as=35908
ben_vulpes: as if a million log readers wondered what happened to a slave's salary, and were suddently silenced
asciilifeform: if no plan to make repairs / fire weapons, dispense with the sub and sink glass miner-spheres as described earlier.
JorgePasada: It's just that, if we're still talking about the vertically integrated mining thing, I don't see it as a viable play to accumulate wealth
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not 'evil' but 'car that runs out of gas' as per your stalin article.
mircea_popescu: it is not true that money and wealth is "wrong" or "corrupts", as the fucking protestants would have you believe. it is not true that appetite or expansion are evil, as the puritans would hae you believe.
mircea_popescu: dermined the basis of social stability, by substituting the bonds established by “contract” for those dependent on “status” as a basis for social order." are little more than present nonsense anachronised.
asciilifeform: as JorgePasada pointed out - 'target-rich environment.'
cazalla: eventually someone will come up with the idea of renaming the ponzi to a mining simulator and pitch it as such
cazalla: in the case of GAW, they point to bitmain and had them confirm that they placed an order as proof that they mine and people fall for it all the same
cazalla: i suspect most of them are ponzi and some operate as such until they collect enough funds to actually mine, fake it till you make it "the secret" type shit
decimation: " A former U.S. ambassador who had dealt with Lavrov at the United Nations described him to me as disciplined, witty and charming, a diplomat so skilled “he runs rings around us in the multilateral sphere.”"
asciilifeform: (just as surely part of one or more chumpnets)
mircea_popescu: mike_c: some do. google bot runs JS. << last i heard it was buggy as hell
decimation: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/536967/Labour-Yvette-Cooper-general-election-vow-toughen-immigration-rules <<lol "She outlined a proposal which would employ another 1,000 border guards - by levying a £10 charge on visa waivers for arrivals from countries such as the US."
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: what would be the purpose << left as exercise for alert reader
mircea_popescu: a pure gold meteorite is about as likely as a prostitute with a heart of gold
kakobrekla: red dwarfs is as much as a star as sun is
kakobrekla: at least as accurate as 'time till we run out of oil'
asciilifeform was not there, didn't see it, and puts equally much faith in this claim as in everything else 'pro Au' folks say.
decimation: as to whether anyone uses it properly is another point
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2014-09-26/?msg=22344014&page=1 << fascinating smoke&mirrors job. these jokers do their best to make 'remote attestation' sound appealing, and obscure the actual raison d'etre of the tech (boobytrap in your own silicon against you, owner, in any and all cases) by spinning it as 'forbidden by usg'
asciilifeform: 6:36 AM it's rather surprising and counter-intuitive but it appears that (for now) the system is working as designed. or if there are compromises, they're so rare that they aren't worthy of mention in the NSA docs.'
asciilifeform: such as, it turns out that shitgnomes are rather enamoured of 'mathematically provable security!!111!'
asciilifeform: 'However, their voluntary exile was short-lived. This structureless mass of people was incapable of creating a city on the model of that which they had known. Consequently they returned to Rome and after many struggles established themselves as citizens of the Republic. If they were eventually enfranchised, it was that they had become culturally absorbed into Roman society, but for this to be possible the latte
asciilifeform: it happened as the very complex roman religions were brought closer to the understanding of teh plebs << goldsmith's 'great u-turn' had a superb if very compact intro to this process: http://www.edwardgoldsmith.org/28
cazalla: undata, they? i only have one, not as lucky as some
mircea_popescu: under the umbrella of the Ghee Kung Tong, identified by the feds as a de facto Chinese mafia organization. Chow begs to differ: “My organization is not what they call a secret society,” he says. “People misunderstand—it’s not a secret. It’s a private self-help group, helping people, our people. It’s about loyalty, trust, honor. As the chairman, it’s my job to help people.”
mircea_popescu: i propose euman as the term. it's different from human in that it's BETTER!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Well this whole Jesus thing has kind of been a huge bummer for Western civilization ever since the Romans started taking it seriously <<< it happened as the very complex roman religions were brought closer to the understanding of teh plebs.
assbot: The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect precisely this, almost to a word, is a formative experience for every boy with half a brain. sorta like if adult tells boy that sky is same colour as grass
mircea_popescu: it took me a coupla passes until it sunk in that the woman actually is seriously presenting this as some sort of an argument,
mircea_popescu: right ? i predict "the dictates of reality" as a concept to make its appearance at the war on terror warcrimes tribunal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: applying statistical (or otherwise) counterfactuals to an actual reality is a mistake of the same elementary scope as division by zero, or direct conversion of metres to grams - but for some reason which entirely escapes me, this is not obvious to people << the reason may escape you but is obvious.
mircea_popescu: distinction IS unimportant, inasmuch as you're not interested in either flies or rotten meat.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and that's about as relevant to the people in the field as the "bitcoin (tm)" "vessenes scam foundation" are relevant to bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ".@rabite I think I liked you better as a Christian, could you go back to the Jesus stuff please" lol
mircea_popescu: (women have a very deeply entrenched masochism in them, as you'd expect of machines made to actually carry to term and give birth. the more heavily sexed ones often have trouble managing it until their late 30s)
mircea_popescu: it's funny how the history of that thing went. it was about as retarded as lesswrong, originally, a sort of obscure livejournal clone populated by worthless shut-ins (which doesn't mean alkl shut-ins are worthless).
asciilifeform: as in, folks who can do addition correctly, etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess now i'm stuck doing a rawls is a clueless ignoramus masquerading as a philosopher (if the "american" part didn't give it away by itself), inept enough to present mere circular reasoning as "moral thought"
mircea_popescu: "you are greatly overstating the importance of the site, it's not reddit sized. it's not even digg.com sized, as of today. it's actually smaller than your blog, 5-10k a month sort of affair."
assbot: The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
asciilifeform: i tentatively buy moldbug's argument that this is a specifically christian atavism (the hindus, for instance, make no such exception, and cheerfully proclaim that one is quite likely to 'reincarnate' as a bacterium)
asciilifeform: as for why they don't include gut bacterium, while it seems like a logical implication - the core idiocy is something once called 'inner light doctrine', where 'humans' (as defined situationally, by the sc4mz0r, but generally rolling up all shaved apes) are 'special'
asciilifeform: or 'include dead baby in life expectancy stats because what if you'd keeled over as a baby'
asciilifeform: incidentally, 'rawlsian veil', as i later found out, happens to be one of the dark elephants on which the entire satanic edifice of 'enlightenment' stands
asciilifeform: applying statistical (or otherwise) counterfactuals to an actual reality is a mistake of the same elementary scope as division by zero, or direct conversion of metres to grams - but for some reason which entirely escapes me, this is not obvious to people
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i was once astonished to learn that the 'one is overwhelmingly likely to be a gut bacterium' argument outlined in note iii of your article is not taught to modern children as a fallacy, but as a moral (!) imperative, called 'rawlsian veil of ignorance.'
mircea_popescu: i suppose the 10 buns in a package producer lobby is working as we speak to make the bread knife illegal.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, outside some very narrow applicaitons such as i dunno, oversized icecream cones, i don't actually use nor would i want to use a plastic spoon. because what for ? do i need it to eat my campaign flan and i'm too far from an actual table with actual cutlery or something ?
mircea_popescu: in other news, overweight redditards don't go out of the house for fear of rapists. not as you might imagine, for lack of long enough tanktracks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: it will be a 'temporary relocation center' to them, even when the shower heads start hissing out the zyklon. <<< well, as tal said to pete, "what's my incentive to interact with reality ?"
mircea_popescu: "On top of this the recent release of SolidCoin has highlighted another problem in the Bitcoin protocol. It it susceptible to a drop off in "mining power", which is essentially the people who process transactions switching to more profitable things such as SolidCoin."
mircea_popescu: "After developing numerous sites and businesses using Bitcoin, those of us now involved with SolidCoin saw major problems. Massive flaws in interfacing with the Bitcoin network forced us to use numerous work-arounds, using nearly all of our decades long experience as computer scientists."
mircea_popescu: as far as i can tell, a sort of wanna-be -assets minus the cool stuff.
mircea_popescu: I know people think "one day" SolidCoin/MicroCash will be worth a lot but it's hard to sell that to a wife as I'm sure some of you may be aware! <<< actually, it's difficult to sell that generally.
mircea_popescu: "It will be as revolutionary as mcxNOW was originally in 2013." << i clearly missed out on yet another biggestfirstbest revolution
punkman: "I'll be willing to complete the beta as quickly as possible if people want to donate some BTC to me, this way I can show the wife it's more like a job than a hobby. As to the amount, I think 250BTC would be enough to get her off my back"
asciilifeform: this is why an art forget should be regarded, by sane folks, as a hero