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trinque: ! for side effects, ? for booleans, seems fine
to me
trinque: hey
that doesn't even make me mad
davout: the ? is here just
to
troll you, because question marks are allowed in function names
davout: trinque:
that & is just a pointer
to function
trinque: shitty dispatch, shitty scoping
tool, shitty ....
davout: each
time i hear about java i can't help but picture
these SomeObjectFactoryBuilder.getObjectFactory().getObject()
trinque: jeez is
that java lambda syntax?
davout: Naphex: filter(p -> p.getGender() == Person.Sex.MALE) <<<
this
Naphex: davout: hehe, a bit maybe. because of
the method chaining
trinque: yeh I don't
tend
to like
these middle layers
trinque: given
the right set of first principles in a system so many
things become
trivial
trinque: too bad
the owner of
the biz
thought money was filthy
trinque: being able
to declaratively modify schema was incredible
trinque: jurov: what, writing wads of plpgsql
to do it is better?
jurov: okay let's not go overboard with
this :)
trinque: having
that you can write queries which output
things which can be inserted into
the writable system catalog
jurov: schema is subject
to change irl and
there be dragons. but i presume with btc it isn't a problem, no changes expected
trinque: I once wrote a
thing
that'd dynamically generate schema for production rules of a given grammer given
the relational representation of
that grammar, and a dynamic
to-string in
the other direction
trinque: ^ most underused feature of SQL
there is
trinque: and you can write dynamic code even
that will build out schema for you because
there's a system catalog
to reference
trinque: this idea for example
that schema's
too hard!
the fuck?! like building
the lack of schema into each query isn't infinitely worse?
trinque: constraints, indexes,
transactions, etc etc
trinque: or kick
them
to
the app layer where
those idiots will do even worse
trinque: any new database will incrementally do
the
things sql already did
mats: says
the db guy i work with, anyway.
trinque: mats: reasoning of "json
therefore..."
davout: iirc mssql also had
the kind of native stuff for xml
davout: trinque: how do you even use
that kind of stuff, does it give you
tools
to actually filter on
the json object?
jurov: mircea_popescu:
that was *enterprise* sql
trinque: incidentally postgresql spanks
the ass off any other kv store on earth
trinque: davout: well shit, a lot of derps
try
to
turn it into a key value store
davout: trinque: a lot of rdbms will let you do relational algebra, it's just
that people don't use it
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes was about 160ish it bottomed out neh ? << which plebs actually caught
that knife?
cazalla: BingoBoingo, but you encouraged him! i'm not
too fussed on altcoins but i would've made mention how foolish redditors were
to believe a jew was going
to give away 5 million
trinque: the system catalog is
there for a reason
trinque: Naphex: neh your
thing just needs
to be smart enough
to make its own
tables, relational can do runtime structure creation just fine
Naphex: and its using sql for
that
Naphex: mircea_popescu: whats dummer is
that looks like a
table for machine learning
trinque: the idea was accountants or somesuch would be able
to write SQL
trinque: really relational algebra's
the
thing, not sql, and someone should redo
the former sans
the latter
trinque: behind
that mess is an utterly elegant data model
trinque: the sad
thing about sql is it
tried
to be an end user programming language
mircea_popescu: there's like 100 of
them in
there,
that should be pretty wild
to run
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah for
the like operator
mircea_popescu: i gotta say ...
that's some gnarly shit. is
this how sql actually works ?
mircea_popescu: not in bitcoin, not in
the world, not in any sense.
they're here for feedstock and no more.
mircea_popescu: i know
this stupid shit works for
the low information voters
that constitute
the libertard america. figure it out :
these people do not actually matter.
mircea_popescu: s actually in israel working for
the other side in
those same elections, not
to mention
the mess in
the ukraine.
mircea_popescu: really, usg : hire smarter people. i know
that obama was wildly successful by promising a bunch of losers unprecedented financial incentives
to voice for him, and i know
that for
that reason it WORKS for him
to do all sorts of patently idiotic shit, like most recently claiming
that inviting
the president of israel "breaks protocol" because it could be seen as supporting a side in
the coming elections, while his staff i
mircea_popescu: "here's how we extrapolate data in
the past
to create a dataset which we arbitrarily call historical, on which we extrapolate a future. and here's how we've fixed it all
to look a certain way. no matter
that anything put
through
this mixer would look like a golf club, including most random distributions"
mircea_popescu: this is like...
the "global warming" consensus all over again.
mircea_popescu: so... a) correlation = causation ; b)i've doctored
the data so correlation =
the causation i wish
to see.
mircea_popescu: gambling bubble of 2012/2013.
This has only a minor effect on
the 2014/2015 portion of
the data."
mircea_popescu: heh,
the gavin idiots. "The chart below illustrates
the growth in
the number of
transactions per day along with Bitcoin's market cap1.
There is a strong correlation between
the
two variables2. If
the correlation continues
to hold, it suggests
that
the 1 MB blocksize limit may also limit Bitcoin's future liquidity and adoption. 1I've plotted
the number of
transactions excluding popular addresses
to remove
the on-chain
Naphex: i just lold,
tought id share :D
Naphex: "I was just let go from reddit because cryptocurrency is not a part of reddit's near-term plans.
This is unfortunate, but understandable."
Naphex: maybe he wanted
to port all reddit
to js :o
assbot: I was just let go from reddit because cryptocurrency is not a part of reddit's near-term plans.
This is unfortunate, but understandable.
ben_vulpes: i had people calling
the bottom at 185
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 234.5, Best ask: 234.73, Bid-ask spread: 0.23000, Last
trade: 234.49, 24 hour volume: 26344.77687968, 24 hour low: 220.0, 24 hour high: 242.18, 24 hour vwap: 232.064793104
danielpbarron: i mean i could ramble on about why reddit sucks or why altcoins suck, but
that seems
to be
the meat of
the story
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Looks good so far. Anything else you want
to add?
ben_vulpes: oh man if
this kills reddit i'm going
to pop a hernia laughing
mircea_popescu: the bitcoin-derp community is very... how shall we put
this politely...
mircea_popescu: <trinque> I
think I'd die laughing if Karpeles was actually involved << his being *completely* uninvolved is improbable on
the face.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> under 4 months from hire
to fire << progress.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> chumpatronics aside,
they also have
the more pedestrian objective of creating GBs of
turdsactions
that bob about in mempool indefinitely, blowing up memory footprint in non-mitigable ways << in any case
that unpleasant side effect.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> in fact, since earth is noninertial frame, even atomic
time depends on latitude <
assbot: Flabbergasted. Bulk of
txns
to Ulbricht's wallets weren't
tumbled, can be
traced directly
to Silk Road. /hashtag/SilkRoadTrial?src=hash
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: If you want
to write one up...
trinque: they win;
they did
the standard 1) build Responsive! (TM) website layout with big image at
the
top 2) kickstarter or
the like 3) cut and run
trinque: b-b-but
the website has
that cool graph animation!
davout: pre-order here, receive in
two weeks(tm)
davout: fair
trade programmable money on
top of
the blockchain
technology
trinque: End-user programming
tool!
pete_dushenski: keep in mind
that we're in late january and he promised, what, march delivery ?
trinque: I
think I'd die laughing if Karpeles was actually involved
pete_dushenski: Given
the mind-twisting complexity of
the bitcoin blockchain for an unschooled jury,
the defense may yet have plenty of room
to inject doubt into
the government’s analysis.
pete_dushenski: Remarkably,
that
total
trail of drug-tainted coins represents more
than four
times as many bitcoins from Silk Road Ulbricht’s laptop
than have yet been found and seized in
the Silk Road investigation. It’s still not clear from Yum’s
testimony where
the rest of
them ended up.
pete_dushenski: “You mean direct, one-to-one
transfers?” prosecutor
Timothy Howard asked Yum.
pete_dushenski: Yum calculated
that
the
transferred coins were worth a
total of $13.4 million.
punkman: is
that
the "moar javascript" guy?
cazalla: i
think it was only december
that
they announced
their bitcoin killer reddit notes
assbot: I was just let go from reddit because cryptocurrency is not a part of reddit's near-term plans.
This is unfortunate, but understandable.