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phillipsjk: Exposing UPnP to the internet defies all common sense. Add to that, many of the Pwnt routers appear to be in China, I am going to call it a deliberate back-door on the part of the manufacturer.
phillipsjk: The users installing those routers probably don't even play with computer networks as a hobby. It is the manufacturers, not the end-users' fault that UPnP is exposed to the Internet.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2015 15:12:13; mircea_popescu: phillipsjk: The captures are 5.0GB each. Just a little too large to fit on a DVD:P << last time we diagnosed this it was mostly unpnp pwnt routers that yielded it.
phillipsjk: I also wanted to comment that behavior that seem stupid from the outside is sometimes completely rational. Quoting MP: 'last time we diagnosed [the DDOS bot] it was mostly unpnp pwnt routers that yielded it. long known as a problem, little to do about it because "must have lusers on the internet"' http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2015#997218 (as an example) ☝︎
asciilifeform: if you don't, don't expect to be welcome among folks who do
decimation: but asciilifeform, tenured professors teach maslow in school!
asciilifeform: phillipsjk: without weighing in on the statement, i'd like to point out that you should have gone straight to 'there are priorities other than wealth/status', rather than trying to bolster the argument with 'proof by authority' using the authority of a fellow who pulled it all out of his arse
decimation: phillipsjk: just because 'some choose not to pursue wealth', it doesn't follow that the wealthy are not intelligent
pete_dushenski: phillipsjk: merely that less smart people have the deck stacked against them in their pursuit of anything
phillipsjk: asciilifeform, it nicely illustrates that there are priorities other than wealth/status.
phillipsjk: I accept that some people are smarter than others. That does not automatically imply that the goal of all smart people is to gain wealth and status.
decimation: is 'unintelligence' also something one can 'shake off' and overcome, just by trying hard enough?
phillipsjk: Sometimes I think mental illness is a rational response to life events.
asciilifeform: phillipsjk: if you know it to be a fiction, why do you bring it up as an argument
decimation: phillipsjk: do you think mental illness is something that is fundamentally biological? or do you think that the mentally ill could 'shake it off' and choose not to?
phillipsjk: so in a word yes, I know the fixed hierarchy is largely fiction.
phillipsjk: Of course, that hiearchy is not rigid in real life. Anarcho-socialists may simply skip gaining status, instead prioritizing "8. Transcendence needs - helping others to achieve self actualization."
asciilifeform: and its applicability to actual people is, charitably - debatable
asciilifeform: phillipsjk: are you aware that said device is a fiction ?
phillipsjk: mircea_popescu, I disagree with the premise that wealth correlates strongly with intelligence. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs predicts that people will largely ignore trying to gain Esteem while being pre-occupied with finding food, shelter and companionship. ( http://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html?PageSpeed=noscript )
decimation: indeed. thus, subject to nyquist
asciilifeform: no, the rng part is a reasonable, traditional scheme
asciilifeform: decimation: forget rf noise even, the harmonics from usb clock.
pete_dushenski: burn the depreciation witch!
pete_dushenski: decimation: me too :D
pete_dushenski: that's not the sharing economy way
pete_dushenski: it's not clear to me that people enjoy paying for things with the aim of ownership
decimation pays nothing for his cars (other than maintenance and gas) and enoys it
decimation: yeah it's hard to 'enjoy' paying nothing for a car if you never do it
pete_dushenski: and rentiers roll one into the next into the next
pete_dushenski: you never notice the depreciation whack because "only monthly payment matters"
pete_dushenski: that's the beauty of car leasing
decimation: aye, one can't keep a chumpatron going if it kills the chumps
pete_dushenski: best scams take years and years and years
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah ultimately the 'infinite noise' guy's circuit is still vulnerable to rf noise in the right band
BingoBoingo: Who is this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10323295#msg10323295
asciilifeform: mats: but all of these things considered, it is probably the least terrifyingly bad trng i've seen so far on the post-snowden market
asciilifeform: mats: no attempt is made to isolate pc 5v power from rng;
asciilifeform: mats: the basic principle of the linked rng is very similar to mine. (fella stayed awake in school.) but the similarities stop there.
pete_dushenski: in any event, the "green is fine u guise" construction is hollow
pete_dushenski: ok scratch that, liquidity should increase volatility in the short-term but illiquid markets have larger fat tails
pete_dushenski: because in greenlandia, deep liquid markets are more volatile than thin illiquid ones
pete_dushenski: r fuels that are just inputs into generation of electricity).
pete_dushenski: 2. Second, over the longer run, because of continuing technological improvements, the prices of renewables, especially solar power, are likely to drop much faster than is the case for commodity-based fuels such as oil. The prices of commodity-based fuels, which are traded in deep, liquid markets, also tend to be more volatile than those of renewables, for which there tend to be no separate markets (especially fo
pete_dushenski: 1. First, oil is used primarily for transportation and not to produce electricity, whereas renewables play an increasing role in producing electricity. In other words, oil and renewables are not direct competitors.
pete_dushenski: true renewable sources of energy–wind, solar, and biomass–may be much less adversely affected by the plunge in oil prices than is widely believed << because reasons
mats: er, not tax filings, but financial documents -- also, what about electronic storage devices?
mats: mircea_popescu: would you consider records and other business documents (e.g. tax filings) within the scope of the courts-circus parameters?
decimation: here's the schematic
mats: based on the description, anyway.
assbot: Infinite Noise true random number generator from WaywardGeek on Tindie ... ( http://bit.ly/1EWZ4zx )
mats: asciilifeform: https://www.tindie.com/products/WaywardGeek/infinite-noise/ << can you evaluate this self-professed tRNG gadget?
cazalla: still a coinbase despite telling the faithful that coinbase will add litecoin and that he'll leave if they don't
pete_dushenski: and now lee is presumably sipping mai tais somewhere because i swear he hasn't made a peep in 12 months
cazalla: no proof of course but i wouldn't put it past a guy to do that.. a guy that is willing to get up in front of a room and admit what he says isn't true but that it's OK because "marketing"
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i've heard that as well and i suspect he used his brother's exchange to offload his early coins to chinese suckers, that's what that whole bitcoin/litecoin brothers reunited bullshit was about, the fucking gall of that guy http://media.coindesk.com/2014/03/Banner_en_BTCChina.jpg
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: and what was that miata bit? is this your dream car or.. ?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: even tesla's have to get leccy from somewhere
pete_dushenski: cazalla: a, a newer thing then, another "but it worked for the us" scenario
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Collaborator was also one of the first, notorious BTC GPU miners
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i did not know this, but it isn't very surprising.
asciilifeform: (if that seems like a 'martian' concept, look up 'satcoin')
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the 'cynical' answer would be that he didn't give a flying fuck about asic resistance in the general sense, but planned to build own asic << There was drama about a collaborator of his GPU mining this GPU unminable coin from the start
asciilifeform: at the minimum, it was a 'spare' in case of a catastrophic break in sha2
cazalla: of course, which is why i got into it to begin with but in hindsight, just sour grapes at missing cheaper bitcoin
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: best electric tranny is ICE powered.
asciilifeform: but initially there was a vaguely-plausible reason for thinking people to go 'hmm' when reading about litecoin.
cazalla: pete_dushenski, it has had one for the last year along with a *talk.org forum.. it's pretty much the blue print for altcoins at this point, launch your altcointalk.org, have a foundation and premine under the guise the foundation will use the coins in some fund to spread adoption
cazalla: asciilifeform, i'm pretty sure every altcoin always launches with the idea of being different to every other altcoin
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: at least litecoin didn't have a phoundation crudding it up to its gills over a period of years
asciilifeform: the original point of my objection to the qntra piece was that, afaik, 'litecoin' was different from every other altcoin in the sense that it was not simply an existing source tree with a dozen constants changed.
pete_dushenski: cazalla: pumpers gotta pump and all that
asciilifeform: i can't honestly say that i care very much why.
cazalla: he is malicious because he contains to appear at conferences to tell people how a coin is all about the marketing regardless of whether what you say is factual or not. he's just the first iteration of garza
pete_dushenski: it's not clear that he did/does
pete_dushenski: if he had the skillz
asciilifeform: rather than waiting for the chinese
asciilifeform: by all rights he should have attempted the asic
asciilifeform: but normally those are not merely malicious idiots, but avaricious malicious idiots
pete_dushenski: iirc litecoin was a 2011 thing
asciilifeform: or that
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the cynical answer could also be that he's a bad actor who tried to detract energies away from bitcoin at a pivotal moment
asciilifeform: but did not do this, because could not steal enough.
asciilifeform: the 'cynical' answer would be that he didn't give a flying fuck about asic resistance in the general sense, but planned to build own asic.
gribble: Litecoin founder Charles Lee on the origins of the cryptocurrency: <http://www.coindesk.com/litecoin-founder-charles-lee-on-the-origins-and-potential-of-the-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency/>; Litecoin creator Charles Lee has left Google to work at Coinbase: <http://www.coindesk.com/litecoin-creator-charles-lee-has-left-google-to-work-at-coinbase/>; Ex-Googler Gives the (1 more message)
asciilifeform: (see 'lifecoin' for example of algorithm that actually requires increasing physical space as difficulty grows)
pete_dushenski: or like a race horse with the heart of a giant gerbil
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the way i understand, it was mainly intended to banish asic, but for some reason known only to the author, did not really try in earnest
pete_dushenski: litecoin is like a tesla with a gas engine really
asciilifeform: (but at the same time still requiring construction of new machines)
cazalla: so no, i don't buy that litecoin was anything more than the creation of your stereotypical chink who knocks shit off
asciilifeform: this would have the side effect of encouraging the construction of machines which are not entirely useless for other extravagant computing projects
asciilifeform: for those who weren't tuned in a year ago,
asciilifeform: if it -only- had the scrypt thing, and none of the other crackpotteries, might have went further.
cazalla: and nobody has moved the goal posts as much as those idiots.. gpu resistant, asic resistant, it's faster etc etc
cazalla: asciilifeform, coblee admits his silver analogy doesn't make sense but continues with it anyway.. doesn't sound genuine to me at all
mats: hm, bitbet has graduated to being a sextuple reverse fractional reserve if my computation is correct
asciilifeform: it is interesting to contemplate why no one (afaik) suggested a third workfunction
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cazalla's text. But... certain people who birthed it still promote it as an alternative that still solves a problem.
asciilifeform: this is re: the qntra article.