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mircea_popescu: for that matter, cca 1890 a japanese invasion of the entire west coast was regarded moderately likely and entirely feasible in principle.
mircea_popescu: nothing existed there prior, or in the words of sinatra (a man the age of one's grandparents), "this place was sand before i came here and it'll be sand again before i'm done with you!"
assbot: Hacking on the Satoshi Codebase: Some Pointers ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgUXj3 )
mircea_popescu: anyway, people readily forget history. siegel had to beg and steal new york money to build, what essentially was, the first building in the desert.
mircea_popescu: i doubt that claim, but it's certainly not impossible.
asciilifeform: iirc archaeologists believe it (predecessor) to have been the first 1M+ city ?
mircea_popescu: you realise mexico city is larger than all texas, right ?
asciilifeform: aha so just what i suspected. i.e., there would be no major population centres in western usa if not for gold rush
mircea_popescu: it took 50 years, that could only be built because of the previous 50. and so on.
mircea_popescu: it took time and money to drag them away.
mircea_popescu: you have to understand in 1890 nobody wanted to leave new york (where show biz lived) to go in tumbleweedland.
mircea_popescu: but with it, "that's california for you", something conceptually entrenched already in the times of mark twain. on the basis of which, hollywood, and shockley.
mircea_popescu: california minus the gold rush, and the resulting adaptaiton, would have been washington with a coastline.
mircea_popescu: (btw... the reason silicon valley as a marketable product exists today ? that.)
mircea_popescu: so much wastage has never seen, not since the great california gold rush at any rate.
mircea_popescu: "The "Bitcoin Foundation" poured an unforgiveable number of coins into the market to feed Gavin Andresen and his family…and for what? 3 years of development that's just about to get flushed down the drain? The appearance of relevance without any of the hard work of thinking and making things work correctly? [...] Consider the tragedy wrought by an internet forum accidentally blessed with untold riches and weep."
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 02:32:39; mircea_popescu: including the actual bitcoin foundation is the correct move there. mod6 ben_vulpes are in charge.
asciilifeform: (build script, that is)
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron nothing hypocritical about it : if WE fork bitcoin, then it's ok. if nobody claims to do it, nobody gets quashed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: before very long, this thing will not be readable in the usual sense of the word.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1 because allowing two ways to do things never killed anyone and 2 probably because i want to see the stuff. i suspect it's a derivative of the general "fits in head" principle.
danielpbarron: "hypocrites! they forked the WoT but they won't fork bitcoin!"
mircea_popescu: hopefully we'll get a way to automate communication between gribble and assbot once nanotube gets around to it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu: am i the only one who wonders why 1) checking hashes, inside a pgp-signed script, when patch sigs also are checked 2) patches & their hashes, sigs, listed explicitly, instead of iterating over directory
mircea_popescu: (no you don't have to redo the history, it was copied over)
bitstein: Do I need to re-rate everyone using assbot for the asswot?
bitstein: Cool. I like the upgrade with the OTPs for every command.
assbot: Hacking on the Satoshi Codebase: Some Pointers ... ( http://bit.ly/1AgSTrn )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/02/01_hacking-on-the-satoshi-codebase-some-pointers.html << just reading this thing gives me a blood pressure boost.
mircea_popescu: bitspill yes then !v with the decoded bit.
bitstein: Still !up in a message to assbot, right?
mircea_popescu: you know how to voice yourself on the new model bitstein ?
Nemesis3: mircea_popescu hey thanks :) came mostly to keep an eye on the conversation here, I enjoy your website.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski you know these log copies where you capitalize the first letter in a line but not subsequent sentence leads nor 1st person pronouns is very odd looking.
mircea_popescu: "the nonsense we belive in is not really nonsense, which is why we can't hoild a conversation with random people. let's instead talk of sports!"
mircea_popescu: let them fucking come and worship instead of going around in circles like headless chickens pretending the whole world's a chicken and someone severed its head.
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-january-2015-statement/
mircea_popescu: “The most recent poll showed that the majority of Americans no longer believe the conspiracy theory that a species emitting only 3% of the world’s supply of a poor heat-trapping gas are magically cooling the planet… I mean heating the planet…. or wait, I mean causing the weather to change now.”
BingoBoingo: I'm adding "Giant Golden Tiger driven by invisible slaves" to the wishlist.
trinque: I took aikido for a while; the teacher always pointed out that while you were using their own movements against them, you could for instance break their neck here, dislocate shoulder with a push an inch that way, etc
mircea_popescu: in other words, there's a lot of value in ~actually being the nightmare~, on the side.
mircea_popescu: but yes, that is unrelatedly the winning strategy, and sure, it's working splendidly. in spite of sustained pretense of everyone to you know, "who is mp".
trinque: yeah, I'm not qualified to understand how that was perceived internally
trinque: at which point they attack themselves (their country)
trinque: this seems a winning strategy, find the top, discover their nightmares, convince them that you're it, you're everywhere, and they're fucked
mircea_popescu: the two are really unrelated.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I remember you talking about whether Stalins rust; I understand him to have succumbed to a great deal of paranoia about underlings coming after him
trinque: trying to pull it into words... it would seem to be a sign of institutional illness, autoimmune disorder
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell fabianb empyex sick ?
trinque: bin laden seemed to do pretty well in turning our system inward on itself
trinque: mircea_popescu: is this the classic paranoia that the underlings are all out to get the leadership, as manifested in tech?
danielpbarron: made it to 93225 and it seems to have stopped without producing any errors in either debug.log or nohup.out
assbot: O hai let me wanna-be! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/162W3ll )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-wanna-be/#comment-111914 << meanwhile from the sufferers under the "code is poetteringy" mullenweg regime.
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm sure "they" lie, notwithstanding that "they" doesn't even exist as such outside of the sufferer's sufferances.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the steve dutch piece is funny because... "i lie" gets transmorgrified into "they lie" in such a predictable fashion.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "yes, as a matter of policy, in the sense an addict's untimely death is a matter of his own policy"
mircea_popescu: trinque obviously it does not work in the favour of the bureaucracy. for the simple reason that the incentives of the talented, the smart and the valuables never are nor ever could be alligned with socialism.
mircea_popescu: " community" or w/e they are.
mircea_popescu: cazalla your pics put the finger on the point : this is why we despise them.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and the notion that it is, is purely a mirage created by the hairball << bitcoin is certainly simple.
assbot: Why I Don't Believe in Conspiracy Theories ... ( http://bit.ly/1HH7gcr )
asciilifeform: http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PSEUDOSC/WhyNoConspiracies.HTM << steve dutch descends to new level of usg fellatio
asciilifeform: works in their sense, not ours
trinque: as you point out, the things that really matter use crypto that (afaik) works
trinque: seems to rule out what I said too. That they might have underlings use weakened crypto provides them greater control over them, and eh, if they get intercepted/caught/etc they were expendable in the first place.
trinque: damn, that makes a great deal of sense.
trinque: asciilifeform: I think I see your point; the answer is not "yes, oops" but "Yes as a matter of policy."
assbot: Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HH0sM3 )
asciilifeform: trinque: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 << on the subject
trinque: put more clearly, does the thing committing industrial-scale corruption of software provide the rest of govt a reliable map of which things are unsafe to use. I'd think not
trinque: asciilifeform: at least one might hope that even they've lost track of which pieces of tech they've weakened over the years, such that they've weakened themselves as well
ben_vulpes: side note: that's the informal name for the infrastructure provisioning tool i wrote for internal use
cazalla: oh, garza never ceases to provide the lulz.. his $20 honour program was to go live today.. posts this a few days back https://i.imgur.com/1RjXbe4.png and now the day of launch.. http://blog.paybase.com/status-of-honor-program/ " As previously reported, we are reviewing with counsel the features of the Honors Program and what if any aspects of the program may require regulatory approval. We intend to proceed based upon advise of counsel and
asciilifeform had more to say, but his 'wrath' emotion register bit is set, and hard to think straight.
asciilifeform: and the notion that it is, is purely a mirage created by the hairball
asciilifeform: and to answer the objections of possibly lurking idiots in advance - no, it is not because bitcoin is mathematically complicated
asciilifeform: and in fact, to present it as 'open' is an ethically questionable proposition
asciilifeform: point of this story is that 'open' source that is not accessible to the human mind with reasonable effort, may as well be 'closed'
asciilifeform: and these were winblows binaries.
asciilifeform: and i will say that none of the items i have worked with (and they were samples of malware, in some cases elaborately obfuscated) remotely approached the ugliness and gnarliness of bitcoind.
asciilifeform: since this place is quiet, i will take the liberty to blather at length;
asciilifeform: (meaning equal to 'fits in head')
asciilifeform: had an early draft where it was phrased in a particularly comedic (unintentionally) way, where, parody of rms and his 'software freedoms,' the sqrt(-1)-th 'freedom' was to be 'freedom to understand'
asciilifeform: i've been meaning to write an article on the subject of 'pseudo-open' for... ~5 yrs now
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 19:52:45; asciilifeform: the solution to turdlangs is, to crib from clinton era anti-dope slogan, 'be smart - don't start'
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 19:52:18; asciilifeform: and if interests of vendor conflict with yours in any way, the conflict will be subtly and perfidiously resolved in favour of vendor
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 19:51:38; asciilifeform: 'golang' is in the same league as apple's 'darwin' unix kernel. a whole zoological kingdom of pseudo-open, where, yes, theoretically you can read source, but it is not -for you-
asciilifeform: relates to, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#1000155 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#1000158 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#1000160 ☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: a closed hairball for all the interest the entities in question have in documenting and maintaining the various hairballs' (ben_vulpes's www)
asciilifeform: 'Software may be "open sourced" by various companies who depend on that software to do their business (Puppet, Chef and Go are all excellent examples of the pattern: monolithic software projects of such scale that they either approach or actually are their own languages for which the source is freely available, but the source for which nobody is really supposed to read), but in nearly all of those cases the code may as well be
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: have some lulz << lol check out all the disinterested forum experts. ognasty, "Pool your bitcoins with others. Vote on solutions using the Bitcoin blockchain. " all sorts of laudable.
mircea_popescu: ri really shouldhave all the magic numbers in a config file.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: "why?" << this thing where you embrace extend and run into the wall a reasonable idea is for teh dogs.
mircea_popescu: shot the guy an email.
assbot: Deconstructing Transactions ... ( http://bit.ly/1zsaXNI )
asciilifeform: pretty good expository work in there.
asciilifeform: would be interesting to see a robotic probe tell us wtf lurks in that channel
asciilifeform: and when it was discarded by the phoundation? 0.6 ?
asciilifeform: does anyone else find it remarkable how readily the 0.5.3.x irc seeding mechanism still works ?