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BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> ok. now any idea why ssd's are all 2.5" ? << You know these things work in 3.5" and even 5.25" bays... Even work with same cables.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> why the fuck provision for rewriting bits that will ~never~ be rewritten. <<< ironically, cheaper to save on hdd than on the mask rom. yet. ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: and if pete_dushenski is really asking why there are no 3.5" ones, it is for same reason as why not 5.25
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: mkay. i just need to dig more then
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Avoid SSD's which seem inexpensve for their capacity
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/43pqky/bitcoin_core_will_soon_replace_the_industry/czk0ral
jurov: pete_dushenski: gigabytes of RAM alleviate the problem, but only if it's not too far behind
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: the hybrid thing seems like the worst of both worlds
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_butugychag
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 19:56:14; ascii_butugychag: imho spinning rust is a losing proposition for any node.
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/43qisj/paul_sztorc_on_twitter_it_seems_that_mircea/
hdbuck: mircea_popescu yes, sry, ps: gmax actually adressed your recent blogpost : http://pastebin.com/nq3iFbW8
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag seeing how there's memory leaks... not a bad bet.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: actually i would be only slightly surprised if prb could be persuaded to jmp into a block.
BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CaKO7QnUEAEWdQX.mp4
mircea_popescu: incidentally ascii_butugychag i had dc price 1tb ram. the guy... lifted an eyebrow.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: WHy is this surprizing. Oakland sucks and Oakland terminal has been struggling.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: actually it will be a massively-parallel sort of affair
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 19:29:18; ascii_butugychag: ;;later tell mircea_popescu in what sense is adoptinc keccak a rejection of usg standards? it was actually adopted as sha3...
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lemme guess, they're all on the same street too?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag he has the right method tho, you know ? what in beginner writer classes is called show, don't tell.
ben_vulpes throws pens, pencils, erasers at mircea_popescu's slithering ass
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag sounds more and more like it's a petraeus job.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes can you believe the deploy times of tmsr incidentally ?
assbot: polarbeard_remove_shrink_debug_file ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmhEIu )
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/patches/polarbeard_remove_shrink_debug_file << aha, there we go
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 19:14:39; ascii_butugychag: phf: your viewer is mighty spiffy, it is exactly what i wanted to make in september (and never had time)
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 19:06:38; phf: mircea_popescu: ^
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Dunno that much yet, even though he was arrested last week word is just emerging this week.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i cheat. what else is new.
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 14:34:29; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-02-2016#1392335 << poverty limit. ask the world bank :D
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes notrly, had lovage seeds courierred and that was the last thing.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: shall we try? anything you want from the states?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and imma drink it! if i ever come back.
assbot: irc_bots:deedbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1RVey0C )
felipelalli: <danielpbarron> ;;later tell felipelalli ^^^ also >> http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/deedbot#synopsis << Thank you danielpbarron - I was using in the wrong way. Now it works.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you ever end up in here again ima buy you a pound of this stuff :D
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: britt ?
felipelalli: <mircea_popescu> how is a bitfield in the gpg key help you in case you die ? or lose control of the key ? neither of these are time-able events. << well, thank you.
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 14:32:39; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski https://bitbet.us/bet/1198/connor-mcdavid-will-live-up-to-the-hype/#c5602 I believe
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag do you see the side benefit to this happening ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag then read my response :D
ascii_butugychag: (to borrow a mircea_popescuism)
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag exactly. a very minimal sort of thing.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i can see it. sorta 'shit test', anyone who proposes any fork which refuses it, has to answer for himself
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag note that it's not my scheme not a coin nor anything. it's just a minimum bar.
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: ty, fxd
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/43opc7/popescu_proposes_healing_the_minernode_division/
thestringpuller: !up ascii_butugychag
shinohai: !up ascii_butugychag
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: Got into argument with netsec team leader at work.
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: Not all of us are rich like you and can afford toys :P
ascii_butugychag: ;;later tell mircea_popescu your scheme (could call it... nodecoin?) finally clicked in my head. at last, an end to the cn pond scum !!
trinque: !up ascii_butugychag
ascii_butugychag: ServerMode/#bitcoin-assets [+v ben_vulpes] by adams.freenode.net << wat?!
ascii_butugychag: ;;later tell mircea_popescu in what sense is adoptinc keccak a rejection of usg standards? it was actually adopted as sha3... ☟︎
phf: polarbeard: you can't press polarbeard_better_log_messages directly on top of asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected period. so the ~transition~ makes no sense
phf: ascii_butugychag: thanks!
mod6: ascii_butugychag: one fix every now and then isn't horrible or anything, id just hate to see the situation (like at usg-like job) where people create a turd, create a PR, and then have to keep chainging the PR until "ready"
phf: polarbeard: it's not correct, since the graph is supposed to only show transitions, rather then descendants/antecedents. in this case polarbeard_better_log_messages touches util.h and util.cpp that are modified in polarbeard_remove_shrink_debug_file
trinque: !up ascii_butugychag
mod6: someone up ascii_butugychag
mod6: i must be stale ascii_butugychag
mod6: !up ascii_butugychag
mod6: ascii_butugychag: take a look at these and let me know what you think, plz: http://dpaste.com/0P9PR2S.txt && http://dpaste.com/2SV1RKB.txt
phf: there's a bug of some sort, pretty sure your polarbeard_better_log_messages shouldn't press from asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected, i'll look into it tonight
phf: mircea_popescu: ^ ☟︎
mod6: # ps aux | grep bitcoind && LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin getinfo | grep version
mod6: hey ascii_butugychag, so i figured out what my dumbass did yesterday. somehow, when looking at your fix patch - I missed the portion where you changed main.cpp altogether.
mod6: !up ascii_butugychag
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: they sold for $2-3K usd new
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: and below
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag ~100 or so no ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag you've lived a sheltered lyf alfie :D
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ <-- afaik the only ways are 1) require coinbase receiver's signature in block header << this is rank nonsense. i'm not signing to receive bitcoin.
shinohai: !up ascii_butugychag
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 16:37:42; punkman: ascii_butugychag: did you figure out how to "non-outsourceable"?
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag yes but the solution is not to kill all the sheep.
punkman: ascii_butugychag: did you figure out how to "non-outsourceable"? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: see, i suspect ascii_butugychag this is the major contradiction here. your idea of safety is to make it non-outsourceable, but i suspect it'd be both better and safer to make it FAIRLY outsourceable.
adlai: i just want to understand what ascii_butugychag suggested there, instead of each block header including the previous header's hash. i probably got thrown off by the word "nonce" leaking in there
ascii_butugychag: ok i see what mircea_popescu meant
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag
adlai: ascii_butugychag: what did you mean by "requiring whole-block hash in the nonce"?
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: you know full well that this is false.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag i don't. nobody has learned anything else since 30 years ago.
punkman: mircea_popescu: what is a shifted nonce?
ascii_butugychag: i'm not convinced that it is possible for mircea_popescu and the secret cabal of the smallint other mircea_popescus to actually get off the bitcoin bus without perma-crashing the universe
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag anyway, if the nice folks of whatever wish to change bitcoin more in the sense of, full block hash not headers, i wouldn't automatically reject it. i described a point which must be included, but i also said its details are open to discussion.
ascii_butugychag: i think i have a stronger chance of flying to mircea_popescu's house on a glider powered by my own farts, than for this to so much as budge the schelling point from bitcoin by so much as a nanometre.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag anyway, the only thign this does is that if implemented, you could alter dulap code slightly and produce usable digest blocks for sale to pay for the node.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: why not, while you're at it, premine 100% of the coins and just hand them to seoul.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag this is a general principle that works generally.
punkman: mircea_popescu: orders of magnitude cheaper than recalculating nonce+digest
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag can you be explicit for crying out loud.