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mircea_popescu: the plan is to put wot-member signed nodes in and nothing else.
mircea_popescu: mod6: it seems like the growing thought seems to be to get a list of 50300 active nodes and seed those directly into the R.I., or am I misunderstanding that?? << completely misunderstanding that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: bitcoin could handily run under 100MB constant if the whole bastards thing were somehow bulldozed << yeah it's one of those serious issues that should have been on teh priority list of actual core devs. in 2012.
thestringpuller: http://newsbtc.com/2015/02/04/st-petersburg-bowl-bitpay-sponsor-nascar-driver/ << so bitpay is going the way of dogecoin
thestringpuller: hot swap those bitches
mircea_popescu: it's an ideal usecase for the "use ssd until it fries" because the value of running a pogo is in its running. so a pogo that ran for 3.5 years then died, had part replaced and resynced over three weeks then ran for another 3.5 years is a perfectly functional, 99.999% uptime pogo as good as any other.
mircea_popescu: so danielpbarron, if you feel like trying a generous swap on one of the pogos, with the understanding that the ssd disk you put in there will likely fry, please do so, and document the exeriment as well as possible.
mircea_popescu: obviously 250`000 full rewrites of the swap means a decade or more of intense usage, and so, a perfectly economic use of the ssd in question.
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking, my rationale is like this : because a large chunk of fixed data is always present (the actual blockchain), should a 100gb ssd be blessed with a 4gb swap partition, the drive finds itself in the position where the 100gb * 10k (say) writes are available as such : 100gb of them for the actual data, and 100gb * 9999 for the 4gb partition.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: swapping is the more or less one guaranteed way to ruin an arbitrarily good ssd. << while the principle is correct, in point of fact i would like this experimentally tried in our current case.
mircea_popescu: aka "too many english speakers read trilema, lol @ us, need fresh turnip trucks plox"
mircea_popescu: decimation: from $67,300 in 2014 to $61,287 this << remember the lulzy "need immigration to maintain geniusness of industree" paul graham nonsense ?
mircea_popescu: the fact that no checkpoints means no error would perhaps bolster the "bad code, off by one" hypothesis and relate it to the checkpoints implementation.
mircea_popescu: note that none of the blocvks you receive match your sent getdata.
mircea_popescu: it MAY be a subtle off-by-one error somewhere in the code.
mircea_popescu: mod6 persuing your error log : it would seem to me that for some reason your peers keep pumping you with blocks height=168002 and over, whereas yotu never get height=168001.
mircea_popescu: o hey, first antarctica bitcoin tx ?
mod6: no worries, gotta run though, will test direct against a 50300 later tonight.
mod6: morning. ok lastnights test wedged going against a fully-loaded 70002 seed: http://pastebin.com/4Ps9ZxDJ
jurov: gotta launch the pogoplug
adlai: bitcoin hasn't been in space yet, right? iirc somebody sent chris hadfield a changetip, but that's not bitcoin...
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assbot: I just sent a 0.1337 bitcoin transaction from Port Lockroy, Antarctica - https://t.co/wV7cVjqjk2
mthreat: and my tweet: https://twitter.com/mthreat/status/562938829267808259
assbot: Port Lockroy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dxe2eo )
mthreat: Here's exactly where I am, for the details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Lockroy
cazalla: i'm headed to bed, i'll figure it out in the morn
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 4cb1574e6bbb5f5d39b00a8791d82e11a6dc32600a02f80266f94268ee518a0d ... ( http://bit.ly/1DxdNQt )
jurov: do you have la serenissima flag to claim it?
cazalla: well, let me know when it's done and the transaction ID and i'll post it up on qntra as the first when i wake in the morning
mthreat: cazalla: I'm not sure, but I'll claim it and see wh ochallenges it ;) Kind of like how countries claimed parts of antarctica when they arrived.
jurov: you're sending it to mpex? as gracious donation to shareholders?
cazalla: mthreat, is that a first?
mthreat: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i'm going to try sending a bitcoin txn today from antarctica. the amount will be 0.1337 btc
adlai: "Job Title / Occupation" the only possible answer i can find to this question is "Palestine", but i don't think that's what they're asking for
cazalla: i thought maybe irdial drank more than me but who knows
danielpbarron: well that makes sense considering what he just said to me on twitter
assbot: Bonafide Raises $850k to Build Reputation System for Bitcoin http://t.co/bTDihYENyC
danielpbarron: wanted to do this -> !rate irdial -2 UnSavory Garnish http://twitter.com/beautyon_/status/562908880511201280 ☟︎
danielpbarron: ;;later tell kakobrekla ^ ??
gribble: You rated user irdial on Mon Jan 12 17:05:35 2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: blocked me on twitter, but i forgive him. https://twitter.com/Beautyon_/status/514374369569939456.
danielpbarron: ;;later tell LainZ gribble> New rating | LainZ > 1 > pankkake | bitcoin enthusiast, miss his trolling on #b-a << wrong WoT -- assbot forked it
punkman: "There’s a distinction between the Internet and IRL for a reason. We are here in IRL, and we have to make judgements in IRL." - Ulbricht's lawyer
assbot: Dashcam footage captures Taiwan plane crash - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/16g5Xjk )
assbot: Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1v2UsSv )
assbot: Coinbrief.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/16g3fu2 )
cazalla: i think it is interesting to note that qntra has surpassed a competing site, founded in april 2014, in what.. 4 months.. https://www.quantcast.com/coinbrief.net vs https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net
mod6: for the record, its: v0.5.3 + patches { 1, rm_rf_upnp, 2, 3, 4 & 6 }
mod6: im gonna leave this sync run overnight.
mod6: i must have done something wrong. but anyway, I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if your node can't survive being linked in -assets, it probably isn't fit to fight in the great war
mod6: yeah, using 2nd version. thanks!
asciilifeform: mod6: the second version posted uses lists of ip in plain ascii
asciilifeform: mod6: use my liveness tester
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: there's a bit of difference between connecting a node to the net and putting the IP into -assets.
ben_vulpes: the foundation's resources are meager. big servers that can build in parallel and download many chains in parallel are probably not a feasible acquisition at this time.
danielpbarron has two nodes on two different ips running different versions
asciilifeform: exposure of weapons-grade nodes to the internet at large << wai wat?! how would node function off the net ?
ben_vulpes: now i understand how sensitive everyone is to the exposure of weapons-grade nodes to the internet at large, but i for one would greatly appreciate a few nodes of known vintage that would barf blocks to me at will for the testing of various bitcoinds.
ben_vulpes: peer discovery is totally fucked.
ben_vulpes: all of this over a few IPs
mod6: alright. thx.
mod6: asciilifeform: oh the sipa txt is super old 'eh
ben_vulpes: i come in unprepared for this conversation
asciilifeform: of questionable veracity to begin with
asciilifeform: mod6: you realize these are ancient numbers
mod6: as opposed to these:
mod6: ok well asciilifeform, I think I'll try the first one in your list since it's 100% sync'd
asciilifeform: mod6: we're connecting, by chance to nodes that do not have full sync << we also get every new block thrown at us
mod6: aight. time to test this out.
mod6: good-ole ATC taught us that :]
mod6: ahh, thats right!
asciilifeform: mod6: iirc punkman found a way to roll them all into the config
mod6: is there an easy way to feed bitcoind a list of nodes that we want to use for seed?
mod6: ok. interesting. wonder if that relates to this:
mod6: (that starts after this line: (Warning - long. You can safely skip to the end.))
asciilifeform: either that, or reject garbage in some more efficient way
mod6: I'm looking at your email (http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000046.html) and just wondering about this list...
mod6: asciilifeform: so is the thought to connect to nodes that are fully-sync'd? and the issue is that we're connecting, by chance to nodes that do not have full sync?
punkman: also commits on bottom of this page: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commits/master/src/main.cpp?page=23
assbot: Limit the impact of reorganisations on the database · d68dcf7 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1uWaspC )
punkman: mod6, this might be relevant https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d68dcf741e088d8d7033521aa1a1e5e87d9dd283
mod6 digs through debug.log
mod6: thanks for the links asciilifeform
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asciilifeform: iirc that was the closest thing to a plan
mod6: it seems like the growing thought seems to be to get a list of 50300 active nodes and seed those directly into the R.I., or am I misunderstanding that??
asciilifeform: i'd say txt
danielpbarron: what is the prefered format for documentation? .txt, .html ?
asciilifeform: you can then use same script ('portatronic')
danielpbarron: waiting for stuff to install
asciilifeform: note that you can build for pc if you replace the cross compiler with standard gcc
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: tried building yet ?
asciilifeform: in my 'valgrind' experiments, i've found that it is responsible for virtually all growth in footprint since powerup
asciilifeform: bitcoin could handily run under 100MB constant if the whole bastards thing were somehow bulldozed
asciilifeform: not to mention dog slow
danielpbarron: rather not have to do that though