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assbot: On pretending “Googling” is still a
thing
that works any more
than “USG” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1Cyi3m8 )
mircea_popescu: so in
the sense western "intellectuals" migrated
to russia in
the 30s,
they're stuck migrating here anyway.
mircea_popescu: it's unclear if we politically agree or not, but it is not yet in any sense clear we disagree
to any degree, and more importantly, we have nuclear weapons.
mircea_popescu: it seems
to me
this entire "we" whatever it is, if it had any sense whatever, would show up here.
assbot: Spending all your
time figuring out what kind of “-ism” you and your friends believe in so
that you can call each other “whatever-ists” is no way
to improve
the world. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1Cyhbhe )
pete_dushenski: i
think i referenced another one of his articles in
the comments section of
that first one
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: you seem
to have read some of nick land
mircea_popescu: the only reason one'd ever go
to either republic, would be
to fuck college girls.
the_scourge: why would you go other
than
to see
the cracks and be warned?
the_scourge: i
think a
teenager
today would find
them obvious.
the_scourge: i lived in socal in mid-90s. i could see
them, but
they were not obvious
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: good advice but as a non-USian who has spent 90% of his life outside
the US and 100% of his adult life outside of N/A, and has lived in non-western places as well, i
think
there could be something said for living for a short while in california or new england
mircea_popescu: (and in
this perspective,
the holocaust is proper and well deserved fucking punishment. next
time - listen better.)
mircea_popescu: the jews found
themselves in a similar situation all
through
the 30s.
mircea_popescu: the_scourge
the standing advice for all usians has been "get
the fuck out of
the us" for at least a year.
the_scourge: i
think "badly designed" might be giving
too much credence
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell pete_dushenski if you got
the guy's email by virtue of him commenting, and you don't mind, drop him a note saying i loathe blogspot, but if he has
time drop by for a chat.
the_scourge: oh! ... i joined
today at
the point where you said "opportunity of a lifetime" < perhaps slightly /sarc ? :)
the_scourge: BigBitz: sorry, was it your friend Rippleflip who was
the proprietor of
those sites
mircea_popescu: the_scourge but you see
the difference between working on and working within ?
the_scourge: right, so we know
that working on a stupid protocol or
technology is just wasting
time. what about working within a social framework which is even more broken?
mircea_popescu: the_scourge so how do
these
two come
together in your reasoning
there ?
assbot: Spending all your
time figuring out what kind of “-ism” you and your friends believe in so
that you can call each other “whatever-ists” is no way
to improve
the world. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1Cyeqwx )
the_scourge: i agree with everyone's sentiment regarding hipsters
trying
to figure out what ism
they are. as someone who's had
to earn all his priviledge, i went
to uni with such people but cannot relate
to
them much. however didn't we just
tell mr BigBitz and partner
that it doesn't matter how hard you work, if you're working on
the wrong
thing?
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2014 01:39:07; mircea_popescu: i also picked up "nrx"
today
mircea_popescu: ah
there we go, it's right, i forgot it indexes after a delay.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski anyway, it's actually been in
the logs.
mircea_popescu: a while back
they could also improve it by handing out at elbow of papa while papa worked
pete_dushenski: but from
the perspective of reality-divorced idealists...
mircea_popescu: but it IS a perfectly valid if not
the only available means for
them
to improve hteir world.
mike_c: but
that
title :D awesome.
mircea_popescu: they are busy with much more suited
tasks : picking a group and figuring
the hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski
the proposition
that kids should (or want
to) "improve
the world" is untenable.
assbot: Spending all your
time figuring out what kind of “-ism” you and your friends believe in so
that you can call each other “whatever-ists” is no way
to improve
the world. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1CydE2w )
mircea_popescu: and
the something
that's
to be said is : hory shit
that puts isis, china and everyone else in a bad light
punkman: the_scourge: well now it's "cool"
to write about it
mircea_popescu: there's something
to be said for a society so dumb, even
the scams have
to be dumbed down lower and lower each generation.
the_scourge: nick land, freenortherner, dalrock, sunshinemary, socialmatter.net darwinianreactionary.wordpress.com, anarchopapist, anomalyUK, cappy (captain capitalism) < all
these have posts within
the last week or less
mircea_popescu: nlp is like, "the law of attaction", before it was dumbed down for daytime
tv.
mircea_popescu: actually it wouldn't surpriose me
to find
that's
the process
through which it was invented. all like nlp and shit, yarvin sat down and figured hey,
this is going
to positively attract
the esl retards.
punkman: I'm sure
there's a whole bunch of "writers"
that saw "NRx" and
thought "hey, Rx is
the good stuff right"
punkman: but yarvin pretty much came up with
the
term "neoreactionary"
mircea_popescu: last
time intel got
the job
to diagnose
this (after princessnell brought it up) it
turned out
there's maybe a few dozen blogs, all dead.
punkman: there is
the LessWrong crowd, and
the guy
that left
to make MoreRight
the_scourge: do you want me
to start rattling off urls?
the_scourge: there are hundreds of writers. probably
thousands like myself who haven't got a public profile.
punkman: yarvin is
the "nrx"
thing. <- if not yarvin, who?
the_scourge fires up
tribler, i
think mrs scourge would enjoy
that one!
mircea_popescu: Warning: mysql_select_db() expects parameter 2
to be resource, boolean given in /home/imsdb/public_html/dbscon.php on line 5 << ahaha epic
fluffypony: the_scourge: I
think we're going
to end up like
the people in Wall-E
the_scourge: fluffypony: it is relevant.
this is another sign
that society will colapse and i and many others were
TOTALLY misguided on many
thing in
the last days of
the empire
the_scourge: uh, about my first yes, i should have said i understood where you're coming from, but i'm not sure you're observations are at all correct. on
the second yes, you're very much wrong
mircea_popescu: the entire
thing having no further substance past repackaging, obviously
the coca cola company is
the coca cola
thing, and yarvin is
the "nrx"
thing.
mircea_popescu: ok.
this much given, it can never be denied
that
the repackager of any one is, for all purposes,
the 'leader'.
mircea_popescu: so i'm not
too inclined
to see any of
these lables as anything more
than "ignorant kids from
the us web". be it "nrx" or "neoreaction" or etc.
mircea_popescu: ute
them as important, contrary
to
the
tenets of
the us religion of marketing.
mircea_popescu: so let's leave aside
the "therefore" bitcoin
this and
that, as i dun have
the energy. instead, re "nrx" : i have little doubt
that
there are some kids in
the us
that
thought
the one repackaging of stuff
they ran across is somehow more significant
than all
the repackagings
they don't know, and definitely more significant
than
the originals. and
that
they need a name and so on.
this exercise in nominalism does not instit
the_scourge: please point
them out, i'll not say a word in
the meantime
mircea_popescu: can youstick
to one nonsequitur per paragraph, instead of one per sentence.
the_scourge: i
think it's a misconception
that yarvin started NRx or even is/was a leader in any way. he's a good writer. he is NRx, yes
the_scourge: but basically, post-libertarianism.
therefore bitcoin is designed with
the wrong assumptions about society. it's designed by progressives. every person in
the world born after 1805 is a progressive, more or less
the_scourge: and considering i'm a NRx'er, i'm pretty sure i'm for
the former and against
the latter
the_scourge: automated can mean 2
things: 1. reduce
the roteness, man
the hard
things easy 2. skynet
mircea_popescu: however once
that's automatic everything changes. which is why
the wot can not be automated.
mircea_popescu: the difference from
the wot is actually quite instructive. in
the wot, one is at
the liberty
to consider history, but in no sense required
to do so. in your model, one automatically is held
to consider history. it's
true
that
they both
to some degree rely on
the continuation fallacy,
mircea_popescu: it's a post hoc determination, and for
this reason can not be used in any phenomena discussion.
the_scourge: WoT is proof
that
there is 'legitimate holder', n'est pas?