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chetty: <the_scourge> chetty: are you talking about CHris Kyle? ... i guess he is a 'journalist' lol// no Brian Williams
pete_dushenski: the summer's the time to be here :)
the_scourge: mike_c: i'm starting to think that i've taken a pill which ran an end-run around #b-a ... not sure yet
mike_c: <+the_scourge> trust me, those assertions seem like total nonsense to me now, even though i fully believed them as recently as 3 weeks ago << imagine what you'll whole heartedly believe a month from now!
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: i'm in edmonton. and iirc you're in canada too
the_scourge was a total progressive. a libertarian, tory, ancap progressive
the_scourge: trust me, those assertions seem like total nonsense to me now, even though i fully believed them as recently as 3 weeks ago
the_scourge: but yes, we have all been taught our whole lives that religion is for coping, atheists worship 'science', etc etc
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: you've obviously not aquainted yourself with NRx at all. if you chose to read a little and open your mind, it will hurt for several days
pete_dushenski: that's quite specifically what religion is for: coping, thus survival
pete_dushenski: The God delusion is a parasitic meme because, being alien to reason, it does not serve the interests of the host. << utter nonsense
the_scourge: chetty: are you talking about CHris Kyle? ... i guess he is a 'journalist' lol
chetty: so what ya'll think about the 'journalist' caught in the big lie? will it help people 'get it' about the news?
the_scourge: actually to be honest you really need to the gentle introduction and take the red pill, do the original sources on the revolutionary war, then read the dawkins stuff, then 'open letter'
pete_dushenski is ignorant of this
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: if you read how dawkins got pwned, then you'll understand what i mean by religionists
the_scourge: because that's not what i mean at all.
the_scourge: no, we need to end this conv.
pete_dushenski: meh "atheists" are just as religious as the next
the_scourge: wait, are you suggesting that socialism isn't part of The Cathedral?
pete_dushenski: and it's not clear to me that religionists are going to risk their necks for paper-pushers
pete_dushenski: perhaps, but not the only ones to learn from
the_scourge: all = the ones we have to worry about
mircea_popescu: anyway, tell gavin i'm off to eat.
mircea_popescu: i guess then it will get proven.
the_scourge: it's homogenous, this is provable
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: they all are
the_scourge: i don't understand waht that has to do with it
pete_dushenski: ...assuming "progressives" are in the french revolutionary vein
mircea_popescu: see also the always popular
the_scourge: right, but the religionists might defend them (or their right to a trial) to the death
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> anyway : the only people in a very untenable phys-sec position are the various bureaucrats, us or otherwise. <<
mircea_popescu: cool. so they're getting it.
the_scourge: dude i am arguing the exact opposite. the beueaucrat has NOT power whatsoever. that is the entire point
mircea_popescu: it's their natural fate.
mircea_popescu: there's no need to hold anyone hostage to enact a public gutting of government servants.
mircea_popescu: nothing can be further from the truth.
the_scourge: an btw the progressive delusion is FAR more powerful that the allah delusion, it's more craft and more sublte
mircea_popescu: this is not what's being discussed. you proceed from the naive locus where the bureaucrat somehow= the entire world.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: have you ever seen someone explode themselves to influence the course of history? i have, in person
mircea_popescu: the_scourge you don't understand how the world works :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: when you plug a lamp into a mains socket, is that also a 'streaming query' ? << win :D
the_scourge: ok hang on. are you REALLY saying that greed is more powerful and delusion (or religion)? because if you want to buy hitmen or hold the entire world ransom to a dirty bomb or nuclear warheads, you're going to 1. have to find really fucking greedy nuclear engineers and/or suicide bombers and/or military guys
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: i suppose this is another admonition not to use "we"
mircea_popescu: jews don't understand this heritage concept like normal people.
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: what... how are we the heirs???
mircea_popescu: the_scourge if you did log probably has the line somewhere.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'the new state-of-the-art destroyer << is this the story that late bogart film was based on ? "mutiny on the bounty" i think it was called.
pete_dushenski: hang out here long enough and your fears about phys-sec (and most other things) slowly dissipate
the_scourge: and i'm pretty sure i came in here to ask about it...
the_scourge: i remember seeing that war crimes comment a LONG time ago
pete_dushenski: this is where we flip the table and say, "now hold on just a minute. if we have the power, and we do, who should be scared of who now?"
pete_dushenski: mostly because that's what they've always done
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: it's worth noting that most people "in bitcoin" tremble in fear a lot
pete_dushenski: so why would we, their heirs ?
mircea_popescu: anyway : the only people in a very untenable phys-sec position are the various bureaucrats, us or otherwise.
pete_dushenski: did the kings and aristocrats that nrx'ers so rose-tintedly adore stay under their sheets all day ?
assbot: Georg Ritter von Flondor, and what his unhappy life can teach us pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/16vmosh )
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 01:25:17; mircea_popescu: so no, when i'm talking about hanging each and every us bureaucrat, through a war crimes court, within our lifetime i am not being in any sense and to any degree metaphorical.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski yeah. me too. specifically : here. most recently, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-01-2015#999217 ☝︎
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: ya the "phys-sec" thing is something i've heard about for years and years now
the_scourge: but i need to write this out in a better way ^
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: but i need to formulate my concerns. it's mostly to do with ... if you've succeeded in preserving a clean, elegant, un-pwnable bitcoind variant, then all the poser cyperpunks GTFO, leaving only a small minority of (VERY valuable BTC) who are then in a VERY phys-sec vulnerable position
danielpbarron: and it turns out there's an error before that one; currently trying to compile as root in case it's something i messed up with the cross compiler install
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 23:53:56; mircea_popescu: jurov for what it's worth, here's my experience with bitcoin remittances : i sent btc to otc correspondents, ordered wires sent out to the hk account of my local agent, who has paid me dollars, in cash, in argentina. the entire process took less than what it takes to get a letter of credit, and significantly less than what international trade normally settles in.
mircea_popescu: the_scourge the nuclear part is explained here : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-01-2015#987147 ☝︎
pete_dushenski: mine told me the exact opposite
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: huh funny thing that intuition sometimes
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, that's a compilation error
assbot: Hey /Outsideness, I'm curious: do you still have the private key for this address ? https://t.co/4euFxZqSW8
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: yah, i thought i had a modicum of those things and while i totally grasp it, my age + intution is doing this thing saying: it would never pan out like that anyways"
mircea_popescu: somehow running a duplicate along with the original or something ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron <command-line>:0:0: warning: "_FORTIFY_SOURCE" redefined << that doesn't sound so good.
trinque: that fuss about orphan blocks in btcd's log the other day was a jacked drive, killed 3 ldb files out of 15k
trinque: anybody know how to tell btcd to start from a previous block and re-generate the rest?
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: it does take a significant amount of interest in investing, monetary history, politics, to grasp
mircea_popescu: ask @Outsideness if he still has the priv key to that bitcoin addy ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you were on twatter right ?
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: because most don't quite understand the point. i kinda get the perceived problem (thanks to alf) but the solution, while cool, hasn't struck me as nuclear (yet)
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2015 06:53:48; ben_vulpes: i know you don't like the guy, but nuking his record?
ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> [] http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2015#1008005 < did no such thing << my mistake, figured it out ☝︎
pete_dushenski: on a digital forum where you don't even need to fuss about body language
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/address/18YKtNeAy43kFVBzynHeusiaiiAa8pCZFP << sole txn lol.
pete_dushenski: particularly when the pretty girl is friendly and open to conversation like 20/24 hrs every day
pete_dushenski: how long do people have to admire from a distance before talking to the pretty girl ?
mircea_popescu: oh now i know whence i know him, he linked to me a few times.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: nick land's blog. what first put me on to "nrx" as per http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-144/
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Everyone who wanted qntra to have a category page << remove the <li>, separate them by ; instead ?
pete_dushenski: we're essentially assembled here to make sure wmds do something productive
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski which is this xeno thing it seems familiar somehow
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: ah that explains my crossed wires
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> chick's so drastically ugly tho... << pretty indicative of the tail to which us brass has access << kinda my supposition yeah. kinda sad if true. the competition to be him is at least 100k to 1. the competition to be her ? it's like superunitary, 0.x to 1.
pete_dushenski: the_scourge: i've read more xeno that ur, it so happens
mircea_popescu: if the next 168k blocks fit in 1.25 tb we're so fucked...
mircea_popescu: mod6: looks like 'i've only got 1: blk0001.dat, 985Mb <<< heh how about that, first 168k blocks fit in 1gb, the next 168k blocks fit in 35 gb.
the_scourge: the question is, have NRx found out that we actually live in a world where 'nuclear' weapons don't do anything? that's potentially one of the corellaries to the entire argument
mircea_popescu: "Say what? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com" < can this be "Say what? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com << Read this. Now."
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: this exactly. twas my comment about nrx not grokking economics, money, and the fundaments of power
mircea_popescu: "What is this? The first*, the biggest** and the best*** IRC community." kakobrekla you sly* dog** you*** :D
the_scourge: oh yah he takes it as a manifesto. obviously my reaction would only be for those who are meticulously combing through UR, and haven't even bothered to have a gander at xenosystems yet