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mircea_popescu: fortunately, i am lazy. also fortunately, it's a job
that does itself.
mircea_popescu: if i weren't so lazy i guess i'd organise a special cell
to create
these derpy "controversies" about every single intellectually productive us person and have
the academia "sever
ties" with
them.
mircea_popescu: "Institute revokes emeritus
title, removes online courses of popular physics professor who starred in viral videos"
danielpbarron: i
think i
tried
the portatronic patch first and it didn't work
ascii_field: though
technically shouldn't conflict with any of
them
danielpbarron: but just
to clarify, i'm supposed
to patch with
the portatronic
thing after
the chicken etc.. patches?
ascii_field: 2) your build isn't even happening with
the patched (non-zlib) makefile
ascii_field: hence, either 1) your build is
trying
to use a 'modern' boost
ascii_field: clearly marked, zlib is
toggled off; and, in
the comment, warns
that recent 'boost' is braindamaged and demands it anyway
ascii_field: the
thing shouldn't ever be asking for zlib!
ascii_field: the locally built libs either 1) aren't
there 2) aren't pointed
to by
the envir.
ascii_field: no,
then, assuming nothing changed, will croak
ascii_field: try building on a box
that doesn't even -have-
the libs
mircea_popescu: probably
they're in
the path, but not being defaulted
to
ascii_field: check
that 1) you actually built
them 2) results went
to
the specified dir 3) envir vars got set
to point
there
mircea_popescu: remarkably, wikipedia manages
to write however many words on poe without mentioning
the guy was batshit insane.
pete_dushenski: "It seems
therefore
that for a creative writer possession of
the 'truth' is less important
than emotional sincerity." << well said
mircea_popescu: obviously
the garbage composter will
take either just as happily, and so would
the
toilet.
mike_c: danielpbarron: can you link me
to it
pete_dushenski: this does not include
those disposed
towards "the starving kids in africa"
danielpbarron: i
thought maybe it was all contained in
the
three
tarballs in distfiles/
danielpbarron: i guess
there are some dependancies
that most users are assumed
to already have on
their system, mike_c ?
mircea_popescu: nobody wants a plate of
twelve "kinda-shitty" dishes when he could have an exquisite dish and eleven helpings of garbage, readily discarded.
mircea_popescu: his general point is well
taken : as whole groups,
the burgeois-puritans were more on point
than
the feudal-catholics. however, (and he says it, but he hides it
too because he does not want
to confront it) : as elites,
the catholics mashed
the puritans into
the ground.
mircea_popescu: ed. In seventeenth-century England, for instance,
there was a religious and political cleavage which distinctly resembled
the left-right antagonism of
to-day. Looking back, most modern people would feel
that
the bourgeois-Puritan viewpoint was a better approximation
to
truth
than
the Catholic-feudal one. But it is certainly not
the case
that all or even a majority of
the best writers of
the
time were puritans."
mircea_popescu: "Mr Upward would no doubt answer
that a belief which was appropriate several centuries ago might be inappropriate and
therefore stultifying now. But
this does not get one much farther, because it assumes
that in any age
there will be ONE body of belief which is
the current approximation
to
truth, and
that
the best literature of
the
time will be more or less in harmony with it. Actually no such uniformity has ever exist
mircea_popescu: one sec
to package it so it doesn't end up flooding log
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski:
that's quite specifically what religion is for: coping,
thus survival <<
that coping worked better pre industrial revolution
that post.
pete_dushenski: Ukrainian Central bank raises overnight refinancing rate
to 23% from 17.5%
mircea_popescu: fucking a. didn't
this guy as retold by asciilifeform end up sucking cock because "gentleman" in his own opinion ?
pete_dushenski: "Christianity is simply a set of behavioral patterns
that harm other human patterns in some respect and help in others. Catholic priesthood does, however, exhibit parasitic (viral) behavior on fatherhood."
mircea_popescu: "For example, one common
trope in various religious
traditions is asceticism:
the voluntary renunciation of material comforts. Since
this
tends
to be much easier for
those who start out wealthy and comfortable, it's an effective status marker."
mircea_popescu: kinda
the problem with
this guy, he's writing a bizarre sort of fiction.
pete_dushenski: i scanned
that dawkins piece a bit more...
there were more unfounded claims
than i could
take
mircea_popescu: "o no wait,
that's what we wanted anyway" "like fuck you did"
mircea_popescu: "In
the more recent past,
the Allied victors eradicated militarist
traditions in Germany and Japan
through
their control of
the educational system." << lulzy. and of course, defeated japanese and german
troops erradicated
the same in
the us and its allies by... also control of
the educational system ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes actually i confess i do
the same sort of obsessive rereading myself.
tho perhaps not on orlov and yarvin
ben_vulpes: not only expects, but welcomes
the stake.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
that "how dawkins got pwned"
thing reads
to me like "unemployed grad was playing Plague Inc. on his ipad while dawkins was on
tv"
pete_dushenski: reading
the
trilema pieces in his direction were a sufficient cure
to reading more
ben_vulpes: i remember some really long stony nights in college going
through
the works
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you've yet
to meet mr mold?
mircea_popescu: dun waste your
time, you don't have so much of it. go do something
that matters somewhere where it does.
mircea_popescu: well if what carries currency here doens't matter, why are you
talking ?
the_scourge: so what carries currency here does not matter. reality matters.
that is it. we've been living in a suspension of reality for at least 300 years, so i'm not surprised
that our conversation is missing each other
the_scourge: the part about
the socialist professors and
their books rings esp.
true. what you fail
to realize is
that everything YOU believe falls into
the same category (minus
the stuff which can be argued from first principles)
mircea_popescu: not like
there's any rush.
the logs stretch endlessly.
mircea_popescu: well so
then
there
the conversation ends. you are a believer in some strange notions
that don't carry currency here.
the_scourge: if it helps, let me vouch
that it IS first principles and it is worthy of your
time
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: if you want a first principles argument for
the existence of
the cathedral,
that has been given already. i'm not going
to repeat it in an IRC channel. everyone knows where
to find it, i'm just wondering why you in particular haven't looked at it
mircea_popescu: they're just as much pseudo,
the political motivation of pseudoscience makes not on wit of difference.
mircea_popescu: yarvin doesn't get an out of jail free card just because he is "with us", as opposed
to whoever, golf club pattern proponent
chetty: <the_scourge> obviously not everyone in
the world enjoys prose, otherwise everyone in
the world would agree with modlbug
that atheists worship equality, not science// atheists worship not worshiping
the_scourge: explain why
the concept does not reflect reality
mircea_popescu: the_scourge: wait, are you suggesting
that socialism isn't part of
The Cathedral? << a) "the cathedral" is about as solid a concept as moldbug's new os.
the_scourge: obviously not everyone in
the world enjoys prose, otherwise everyone in
the world would agree with modlbug
that atheists worship equality, not science
the_scourge: pete_dushenski: probably, yes. i do like
to hear
things out. but i wish it was more prosaic in
this case!
ben_vulpes: hey so why did
the hipster burn himself on his coffee?
the_scourge: i agree
the perspective here is refreshing and contrarian
punkman: pill
taking not encouraged
chetty: <trinque> +the_scourge | mike_c: i'm starting
to
think
that i've
taken a pill which ran an end-run around #b-a ... not sure yet << I came for
the bitcoin, stayed for
the mindfuck// aren't
they
the same
thing?
trinque: +the_scourge | mike_c: i'm starting
to
think
that i've
taken a pill which ran an end-run around #b-a ... not sure yet << I came for
the bitcoin, stayed for
the mindfuck