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mircea_popescu: short all the things!
asciilifeform: then pull the internal antenna
asciilifeform: node is not a reactor, if thing sits on bus and listens for doomsday signal from enemy, it'll do what?
asciilifeform: you don't actually have to open & mutilate, just don't include it in kernel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what happens if you short the antenna of a wifi device ?
asciilifeform not thrilled with the wireless thing, but it seems to be inescapable in small embedded crapatrons
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: my 0.7.2 node took 2 or 3 weeks to full sync << no he's right, it's what it used to be.
asciilifeform: ^ 32MB. and fuck, that ought to be enough for a bitcoin node
asciilifeform: http://vocore.io/wiki/index << wants to be a node.
mircea_popescu: or is it the result of phone interception -> police telling school to ask kid -> kid not denying convincingly
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so is the "fake kidnapped kid" story the result of "boy telling school what happened"
mircea_popescu: oh i had some of them on display
asciilifeform: (also had the requisite rought-blown shape and the multiple filaments)
asciilifeform was buying lightbulbs not long ago, and did a double-take when saw a line of specifically 'retro' bulbs, claiming to be 'precisely like those of edison's time' - and at least were genuine in costing 10x what one normally expects, and putting out 1/5th the light
mircea_popescu: but then again, bringing arguments to people who never had any sort of life experience is not unlike trying to give serpents haircuts.
trinque: mircea_popescu: right, I was saying the "visa is so speed" argument is bullshit
mircea_popescu: days, sure, in the sense bitcoin txn confirm "in seconds"
mircea_popescu: trinque: asciilifeform: the merchant gets their money in days in the US << noob. it's date+60.
asciilifeform: incidentally, this phrase has been resurrected and now fondly refers to the (increasingly rare) traditional incandescent bulb
mircea_popescu: o god that sounds lulzy.
mircea_popescu: the all union vladimir obama pioneers will certainly enjoy the eco lantern.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, it's old as in there was a photo of the psu dump out last year and it was filmed last year but new as in full clip released today
mircea_popescu: i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge << I once took a design class where this was a case study of "innovation" and "green" << as it should be. if i recall correctly the russian name is "labour & light"
cazalla: asciilifeform, prob the real owner and it's a staff member being interviewed instead
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2014 17:38:27; assbot: Logged on 30-08-2014 16:11:44; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'coinbase insurance' post - little story. recently i had occasion to rent a box at a bank (storage of various paperwork for firm.) the contract was a hilarious read. bank only insures a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically excludes damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything.
asciilifeform: 'Keeping gold in a safe deposit box is money laundering carrying up to 25 years in prison.' << fiction. (though 'deposit boxes' remain a hilarious scam. see old thread, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875487 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: (for non-u.s. folks: for many years, the guards have been running names through 'wanted' lists when you walk in or out of usa)
asciilifeform: the noose appears to be about the same width as previously (post-'01)
mircea_popescu: and the noose ever narrows.
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asciilifeform: and, lol! why 'secret chinese bitcoin mine'? what is the secret ?
asciilifeform: cazalla: interestingly, two faces at the ~6'26'' mark are censored out
asciilifeform: recall how sync is from one peer at a time
danielpbarron: i recall it taking just as long when i used bootstrap.dat
asciilifeform: luck is the main bottleneck
danielpbarron: i didn't think bandwidth was the bottleneck
asciilifeform: but otherwise unsurprising, this is the fifth day
danielpbarron: my 0.7.2 node took 2 or 3 weeks to full sync
asciilifeform: recall, this wasn't a pogo
asciilifeform: the phoundation backport crap needs to go
danielpbarron: and simultaneously the shorter unstuck node, stopped getting new blocks
asciilifeform: what is really needed is the experiment suggested by mircea_popescu (or was it davout?) where difficulty-outlier blocks are shot on sight
danielpbarron: here is something strange: when i sent "getinfo" to the longer stuck node, it stapped out of it and started recieving new blocks again
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: of course it will crash. esp. if you built it with max=750 (as in the patch) but with 250 likewise
danielpbarron: i'm ok with that if it's just until the 2nd catches up
danielpbarron: hm, and now the 1st pogo (longer chain) is stuck while the 2nd pulls from it
danielpbarron: around the one that i posted above ^
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danielpbarron: !gettrust the_scourge
danielpbarron: ok and now it's getting more than 500 at a time connected directly to eachother.. wtf
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: where did you get the idea for mpoe?
danielpbarron: going back to connecting directly to my 1st pogo in that case
danielpbarron: the_scourge, have you been told to read the log yet?
the_scourge: what's the cheapest device that has usb 3.0? one can get super cheap USB keys on amazon, that would solve the problem
danielpbarron: except it's a dirty hack, and the pogo crashes anyway
danielpbarron: it's supposed to dump the orphan blocks stored in memory to keep the pogoplug from crashing
the_scourge: asciilifeform: i take it the reference is to the 'hopelessly out of order' meaning, not the traditional definition?
danielpbarron: looks like it's still stopping after 500 blocks even without the orphan burning
danielpbarron: how can a mom get arrested for kidnapping her own son? was the dad not in on it or something?
trinque: BingoBoingo: they didn't sterilize the 4; doing it wrong
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danielpbarron: lemme try without that
danielpbarron: the pogo with the longer chain is running the burner
danielpbarron: maybe that's why
mod6: ah, my mistake. ascii numbered the "Orphanage Burner" as v0.5.3.2
danielpbarron: might be errors if you run that though; i haven't tested it since i cleaned it up to look nice
danielpbarron: so everything on the homepage of thebitcoin.foundation + porta-tronic
danielpbarron: it's with all the patches up to porta-tronic
mod6: it's the portotronic version v0.5.3.2 right?
danielpbarron: at height=27000 the memory is at like 70% used, no swap
danielpbarron: when i turn off my 1st pogo and let the 2nd talk to the rest of the network, it doesn't hang up on every 500th block; i guess there is some config variable that limits how many blocks to send to one peer per session?
danielpbarron: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_chain_download#Large_Catchup_Case << i think this is why it gets stuck every 500 blocks
PeterL: My wife's bike was once stolen out of our garage ... whoever took it left their bike sitting in our yard. It was the weirdest thing.
punkman: I left my bike unlocked for three days, noticed today
asciilifeform: for some reason they never seen to forget to put on pants when walking out the door
asciilifeform: punkman: odd. i know of no car recent enough to come with a remote button, that doesn't beep/flash when locked/unlocked
punkman: I never thought of this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9KqynNIUAEj87i.jpg
trinque: punkman: lol wow the future of p2p payments
trinque: even seven figure processing accounts I've seen take days to hit a bank account, or at least the next day
punkman: on that note, here is a gem https://ensafer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/bg-app-showcase-adjusted.jpg
asciilifeform: reversals get taken straight from the merchant's account.
trinque: +asciilifeform | the folks who count (tm) get it immediately << dunno that this is so, isn't "settlement" a thing to allow for reversals, etc?
punkman: I gotta dig up that textbook, many lolz to be had
asciilifeform: punkman: flashlight... was a case study of "innovation" and "green" << the meat puppets responsible should be condemned to spend the rest of their days in oubliette, with only nyt to read, lit only by that flashlight.
trinque: it's the fastest payment system I'm aware of when you consider the whole process
trinque: thought was this claim that bitcoin as-is is slow is complete bullshit
trinque: but I guess if we're talking "effectively" sure
trinque: asciilifeform: even that's more a temporary loan right?
asciilifeform: hence, from their pov - no delay.
trinque: asciilifeform: the merchant gets their money in days in the US
asciilifeform: trinque: or were you thinking of the lag from purchase to bank statement ?
punkman: i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge << I once took a design class where this was a case study of "innovation" and "green"
trinque: an observation: the latency of the credit card networks is measured in days
asciilifeform: dignork: it is largely for ^ that american telcos still support 'pulse dialing'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: engine where the piston was really just a magnet-bearing shuttle zipping back and forth through coils << i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge - much time and sore muscle spent in changing direction. but this would work beautifully for a liquid-piston stirling engine (see last night's thread).
asciilifeform: http://www.qltcls.com/products/corded-phones << mindfuck. they still take new customers.
asciilifeform: and dollars to doughnuts, some forgotten government office somewhere is still renting a modem.
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phact: there are still a few hundred thousand idiots renting landline handsets in usa from lucent (who inherited that subdivision)