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trinque: mod6: lots of chatter about "can't find -lgcc_s" on
teh googles
mircea_popescu: check out guy with a half notion of
the problem, and a
thoroughly broken nonsolution
mircea_popescu: "How you can hire me: You can't. I don't work for money. Money is a
technology
that destroys
trust. Its entire purpose is
to short-circuit human relationships in order
to insert itself as a middleman. It makes everybody spend more money, at more emotional cost, for
things
that make us angry at each other. Don't offer
to pay me. Seriously. If you offer me money, I will decline on principle."
mod6: Might need some help on
these ones for sure.
mod6: This might be a show-stopper, will for sure need
to fix before release.
JimJamReid: Hi All, I am currently conducting interviews for my university research paper on using Bitcoin as an alternative
to
traditional currencies, would anyone be interested in participating?
mircea_popescu: france keeps at
this
there will be a permanent bounty on dead french statesmen, in Bitcoin. and eventually, a dead France.
mircea_popescu: assbot: France calls for strong regulation of Bitcoin in EU counter-terrorist financing laws following Charlie Hebdo incident and an end
to anonymous financial
transactions << yes very logical.
mircea_popescu: punkman: I wonder what
the liberally sprinkled "CRITICAL_BLOCK" does << it acquires a blocking lock
mircea_popescu: "But say something utterly boneheaded
that pisses people off simply because it is so stupid
that people who make such rabid mistakes must be corrected, and you get
to control
the whole goddamn agenda in
the newsgroup for a while."
mircea_popescu: " Look at how many responses you have received! And only because you are so blindingly stubborn and /wrong/. Be right about something, and nobody says a word, write something insightful
that required much
thought on your end, and you are guaranteed silence (but occasionally some uplifting mail)."
mircea_popescu: punkman: if we replace openssl with libressl or whatever, how do we verify all
the buggy data generated by 7 different openssl versions? << you mean in
the blockchain ?
the
thing's actually coherent.
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform presently
thinks
that bitcoind should only ever be build statically <<
this is correct. consensus systems may NOT pull dynamic links. ever.
mircea_popescu: imagine
this. amex is retarded enough
to actually allow
this.
mircea_popescu: these would have
to be quite unusual, i never owned an amex card.
ben_vulpes: ok ok i'll do my own research next
time
assbot: You rated user
thestringpuller on 17-Oct-2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied
these additional notes: noise hole..
ben_vulpes: i can't
tell if it's me or
thestringpuller on your ignore list kakobrekla
kakobrekla: what is
this monologue, is noise hole polluting ?
ben_vulpes: i
thought
the automation was implicit.
ben_vulpes: come back with actual citations,
troll
thestringpuller: "Something something client asked me
to change something on live server something something something in
the logs." :)
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: you are
the only advocate of cowboy coding I know of
ben_vulpes: peer review,
testing in production, what's
the difference anyways
mike_c: hm. maybe it was just
the wrong academia. shit gets published in here, peer reviewed, etc. i guess
that's a lot like academia.
thestringpuller: I'll ;;later you what I come up with for L2 arrangement.
These are interesting points
to consider.
thestringpuller: i'm
terrible with d3
tho, it's just easy
to represent data interactively with it.
mike_c: thestringpuller: remember
though, it's not just a
tree, it's a forest
mircea_popescu: ah
that. ok ok nm, im not going
to speak on
things i don't have before eyes.
thestringpuller: ah d3 respond
that way, it uses a different force algrotihm
mike_c: when you add l2 it wants
to do
things like put nanotube way off by himself because he has a bajillion out nodes
mike_c: the one i posted is.. reingold/tilford with
the radial layout instead of
top-down
mike_c: yeah, but you don't get a sense of
tiers unless you use a
tree layout
thestringpuller: i was
thinking of rendering as force layout without interactivity and
then dumping
the resulting SVG
mike_c: yeah, you need a serious package
to handle a lot of nodes/edges. igraph is
the only i've found
that does a good job so far.
thestringpuller: I've been using force layout via d3
to graph
the lord's nodes
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 minutes and 9 seconds ago: <mike_c> write names inclined 30 degrees << it's a circle, so
that only helps depending on where you get placed on
the circle. i'm still poking at it
though.
mike_c: write names inclined 30 degrees << it's a circle, so
that only helps depending on where you get placed on
the circle. i'm still poking at it
though.
mircea_popescu: decimation: I remember using
the boost/bdb
that was available on
the ports << if you could document what you did exactly it'd prolly save people
time.
mircea_popescu: ;;later
tell brendafdez: ^facebook^bitcoin <<
the posix format for
this is /facebook/bitcoin/ in reference
to
the sed command.
mircea_popescu: moral being, don't
try
to be funnay with people you don't know, it never works.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: jurov: you're
three right of mircea.
thestringpuller is crowding you with his long name. << write names inclined 30 degrees ?
mod6: thestringpuller: dont forget
to give us a paste of
the info
though! plzkthx
mod6: thestringpuller: ben & I were able
to pass it once we upgraded
to v1.0.1g
thestringpuller: mod6: if I upgrade openssl will I be able get past
the wedge?
mod6: but good
to know anyway.
mod6: well, so we
think. but its not really apples
to apples since
that code base is so much different.
BingoBoingo: The wedge issue was more related
to which libssl gets compiled into
the mess
than
the version
though, isn't it
mod6: you're on 0.7x
tho right?
mod6: doesn't mean
that a few bad seeds aren't out
there
though. more research required.
mod6: danielpbarron: i don't have any evidence
to support
that.
danielpbarron: is
there any evidence
to suggest
that
there are nodes out
there intentionally feeding bad data for
the purpose of hindering
the establishment of new nodes?
Adlai: good dad, just keep walking down
this road!
Adlai: dad@dinner: "what happens when people start saving
their bitcoins, rather
than just spending
them?"
mod6: there would be 95% less people on
the
tubes if
they had
to compile everything
themselves. ``THE BARRIER
TO ENTRY IS
TOO DAMN HIGH!.jpg''
BingoBoingo: As I
typed
that I
though I might be missing some non-zero numbers
mod6: but you need
to really watch out for 168,001
chetty: <BingoBoingo> Would MS let
them build IE?// haha MS would never release source,
thats kinda why I picked it
BingoBoingo: As in make
the choice
to do
that? Or would
they actually do
that because it is both hard and stupid
BingoBoingo: And if one had
to build, would a derp actuall build IE?
mod6: it'd be awesome because
then derps would give up and go and play with hula-hoops
chetty: interesting, if all packages only came as source sure would cut down on derpage on
the nets, imagine reddtards have
to build
their own ie
mod6: just relating
that im indeed against distribution of binaries
mod6: thanks for
testing!
mod6: maybe
throw a `uname -a` in
there as well
mod6: if you do get
that, please give us a pastebin of
the 'getinfo' & 'openssl version -a'
mod6: youll know
that you've hit
the bad
tx when you see an error in getinfo like
this: "errors" : "WARNING: Displayed
transactions may not be correct! You may need
to upgrade, or other nodes may need
to upgrade."
☟︎ mod6: ok 0.9.8o is
the version we had problems with
too
though
mod6: better
to watch `tail -f /path/to/.bitcoin/debug.log`
to see whats really actually happening.
mod6: so just be aware of
that -- sometimes it can
take a /while/
to respond.
mod6: run
this: `openssl version -a`
hegemoOn: davout: complained
the artical didn't provide any source, i feed him with
two others articles on
the same
topic
mod6: yeah,
the latter. i wouldn't worry about it.
BingoBoingo: Running again, debating whether
to give it more ram. Dunno it will do anything useful other
than maybe
take longer
to crash
mod6: but, will set up a different vm for
this later
mod6: shouldn't be
too long before i get
to where i want
to be. i can't even do full sync on
this vm anyway. i didnt make
the vm disk big enough.
mod6: <+punkman> and you can move
the binary
to other machine without having
to pull all
the boost-dev packages << fwiw, i've never done
this ever. should always rebuild binarys on
the local environment.
mod6: so when
the dynamic compile is done here, will start back up.
BingoBoingo: Ah, so I'm
the brave fuck who will be riding LibreSSL2.0 into
the block firsted