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Vexual: Dunno. Makes me think that things McAfee says aren't nessisarily because of bath salts
BingoBoingo: Vexual: The Buggering bu Internal Affairs you say?
Vexual: Theyre busy investigating all the unwarranted bugging by the internal affairs of the next commissioner now. Printers prolly gone
Vexual: Reminds me of some aussie cops spending 10k on a printer and 9bux on a roll pf cornstarch to show how a liberator will take your fingers orf
mircea_popescu: so in the end... she enjoyed it ?
ben_vulpes: Whenever it came time for his daily bowl of soup he would look around for the nearest "girl" and ask if she would fetch it to him. It did not matter if she was the cook, an engineer, or the president of the company. I once asked a female engineer who had just been a victim of this if it bothered her. "Yes, it really annoys me," she said. "On the other hand, he is the only one who ever explained quantum mechanics to me as if I could
ben_vulpes: wolfram worked with feynman at Thinking Machines?!
assbot: Richard Feynman and The Connection Machine - The Long Now ... ( http://bit.ly/1zEiy6Q )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl scoopbot x.x
ben_vulpes recompiles on local vm with actual beef to it.
ben_vulpes: aside from having the thing actually be programmable, but that's apparently a nonstarter in our world.
asciilifeform: (the reason why it is possible to learn photoshit without reading docs is that the controls are there on the table, so to speak)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the only pills i'm aware of are pouring capital into refining the interface and training the intended customers.
asciilifeform: someone might say 'key mappings' but this neglects the explorability aspect
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: on the subject of 'gimp'-like proggys with terrifyingly layered menus - this is a well-known plague and there is no, afaik, ready pill for it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: same time << as obj, yes
ben_vulpes: i'd no idea that compiling a static bitcoind would take quite so much memory. then again, it's loading all of boost and dbb and openssl - does all of the above need to reside in memory at the same time?
asciilifeform: or was that it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i think i see what you were thinking.
ben_vulpes: (subject of the portatron: "g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus) ")
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and did you spend a similar amount of time attempting to 'work' the same way in 'the gimp'?
decimation: there's another angle to the 'open source cad' thing: autocad refuses to release the spec for their full-feature 'save' files
decimation: yeah that's exactly what I thought when I opened it
ben_vulpes: oh jesus this is going to be like gimp isn't it
decimation: I think I used it a little while, it mostly works
decimation: asciilifeform: actually I think the best explanation for 'why hypercard had to die' is that apple discovered that you could sell software to chumps at huge profit, whereas actually competing on hardware is a low-margin miserable business
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'trololol' < i suppose that part sheets, dimensional tolerancing and what have you are part of my base assumptions for part fab.
ben_vulpes: one of the things that gently nudged me into my current slavery
ben_vulpes: the best part about labview is how once a person builds a reasonably complex thing in it they and only they can really understand where all the pipes go and where all the data is and how control moves around
decimation: including one 'have you tried labview' lol
decimation: lolz I didn't look at the comments
asciilifeform: decimation: if you'd like a canonical list of those turds, of several years' vintage, read the comments to 568.
decimation: except they cost $, are not reliable, and are less useful than hypercard was
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decimation: actually even the html/css shitstack has grown its own quasi hypercard https://ifttt.com/
decimation: yeah that makes sense. as I recall as a youth in school, it was used as kind of a proto-powerpoint
asciilifeform: rather than because of any one of the other characteristics
asciilifeform: ^ was ludicrously popular on account of intelligent folks who were 'afraid of programming' and agreed to try it out because it didn't pattern-match their phobia
asciilifeform: in an earlier age, 'hypercard' (http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568 << my article on the subject) filled a similar niche
decimation: Because there's very little I can imagine labview can do that couldn't be replaced with a few hundred lines of "c" and the labview driver library
asciilifeform: why bother with the layers << anything to 'avoid programming'
asciilifeform: sorta occupies that niche of 'i need to automate a process but i refuse to learn to program'
decimation: really? why bother with the layers of turdware?
decimation: I find his idea that someone actually uses labview for something other than to waste the taxpayers' time & money amusing
decimation: asciilifeform: actually in that scott locklin comment thread he brings up labview, which I'm sure you are familiar with
asciilifeform: 'openscad' if mathematically-inclined, 'freecad' if used to traditional gui
decimation: asciilifeform: what software would you recommend to create an easily purchased bracket from inappropriate materials?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: on the other hand if all you want to do is to define some geometry and run a lathe, there are tolerably sane proggys around
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: but yes, if physics sims, output to heavy industry spec, etc. is your thing - winblows.
asciilifeform: it's one of those few interfacing problems that i don't really think is suited to a textual abstraction << depends on what is being drawn. see 'openscad' etc.
decimation: asciilifeform: made a comment on that post
decimation: https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/not-all-programmers-alike/ << "I can’t speak for everyone, but when I program, I like to be able to make use of the rather-hefty chunk of my brain that evolved as a language co-processor. Language provides compact abstractions in a way that is difficult to beat using graphics except for inherently-visual tasks (the motion of mechanical parts, etc.)" ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the notion that you can design any 3d part of any utility without inventor or solidworks is pretty lulzy << trololol
ben_vulpes: "does it fit" << doubly so in the context of assemblies.
ben_vulpes: 6-axis doolie to move the object around in space; select faces and planes on which to draw shapes and sweep/extrude them through space.
ben_vulpes: decimation: it's actually very fast and intuitive once you've learned the interfaces.
decimation: well, there's certainly a 'does it fit' aspect that is visual
decimation: I mean that the brain's language 'co-processor' (as ascii desribed it) can be used
ben_vulpes: it's one of those few interfacing problems that i don't really think is suited to a textual abstraction.
ben_vulpes: mm but pure text part description?
decimation: I should think so
ben_vulpes: and in fact that is how good part design should be done.
ben_vulpes: decimation: they both support defining parts parametrically.
decimation: ben_vulpes: do either of those systems accept 'scripting' inputs, such that you could describe the parts with a textual interface?
ben_vulpes: that you gotta check against single dimension approximations to make sure it's not haring off into impossiblespace
decimation: yeah my understanding is that solidworks is kind of the 3d hill and autocad is king of the 2d hill
ben_vulpes: last time i checked the answer to "assemblies?" was "lolwut" and i stopped paying attention.
ben_vulpes: it has been a few years since i looked at the "open" cadcam "solutions".
ben_vulpes: although the notion that you can design any 3d part of any utility without inventor or solidworks is pretty lulzy
decimation: so you gotta wonder how long it took the guy to dick around with his winblows cad software to create a bracket
decimation: will repay itself though the continuous printing of thingies."
decimation: lol "An owner of a 3D printer recently told me that "having one really exposes the impotence of… not having one. For instance, I needed this little thingie to hold a shelf. Took 30 minutes to design and print. And where would I get it otherwise?!" The answer, of course, is "at a nearby store" where they have a box full of these thingies at about 20 cents apiece. Of course, in a couple thousand years, his investment in the 3D printer
decimation: where's my farmville subsidies? has congress passed the farmville bill yet?
decimation: lol asciilifeform >"If this strikes you as absurd, does it strike you as even more absurd that people claim something to be a problem when its "solution" is as obvious as it is ridiculous? (Or is it really that ridiculous? Farm subsidies exist. Why not FarmVille subsidies?)"
asciilifeform: ^ 'does not know how world works.' everybody knows that 'shortage' in usg parlance means 'not readily available at the centrally planned price'
asciilifeform: 'If there's a shortage of programmers, we could pay programmers more money.'
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> where'd ya get the O2 O3 combo << shlomiel moment
assbot: A simple way to "get more people to code" ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dtv6nK )
asciilifeform: where'd ya get the O2 O3 combo
asciilifeform: i think i actually put in the std=
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: CXXFLAGS=-O2 -std=c++03 -> CXXFLAGS=-O2 -O3 << is this braindamage of my own design?
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decimation: nah I don't think I can write good.
decimation: ^ this might actually be qntra worthy if someone puts the right spin on it
assbot: Elizabeth Warren Won't Back Rand Paul's Audit the Fed Bill - Hit & Run : Reason.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1zVjPLH )
decimation: more lolz http://reason.com/blog/2015/02/11/elizabeth-warren-wont-back-rand-pauls-au < "Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.), a member of the Banking Committee and an outspoken critic of the Fed’s oversight of big banks, said she does not support Mr. Paul’s proposed legislation [to force a complete audit of the fed], which she said could have “dangerous” implications for monetary policy."
asciilifeform: if you sit and think for a minute about how the memory works, it becomes clear why.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: but on all machines you're likely to meet, there is at the very least a performance penalty for them
ben_vulpes: all these old names popping up.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: x86 is actually among the more lenient architectures for 'unaligned access'
trinque: anyone have a high bandwidth node I can give to deedbot to speed his ass up?
asciilifeform: if prison cells had kitchenettes - i'm quite certain they would.
BingoBoingo: decimation: In cell, that is kitchen sink
decimation: asciilifeform: does the same company sell the sought-after toilet/kitchen sink combo?
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2015 02:25:58; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: realize that the obscene memhunger is 99+% bastard blocks
trinque: and how does it need anything but the top of the blockchain
trinque watches atop -d... what the hell is btcd reading at a sustained 4mb/sec
ben_vulpes: looks bad for the back.
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trinque: ben_vulpes: dual boot the gentoos