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gabriel_laddel: I don't see how you'll be able to reference things on WoTnet further than "the joe I know with this pub key"
gabriel_laddel: trinque: Right now I can press C-t m, pull up a "map" of all "research nodes" and "lessons" and right click to get a menu from which I can run the associated program.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Links displays images, Lynx is the one that doesn't
trinque: strict about the URL structure or w/e it was, isn't it?
gabriel_laddel: you shouldn't.
trinque: gabriel_laddel: if I don't know you, I may still want to listen to you for a moment, to see what you're about
mircea_popescu: nano isn't a pipe.
mircea_popescu: you won't have a leakless pipe, ever. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Executable things can go in the Lispy read, sign, check signatures, and execute world. Documents need to be in the don't give a fuck read the derp and laugh universe
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:51:28; punkman: gabriel_laddel: I get your point but also, this kinda sounds to me like "don't use math symbols, write it all with the full power of english"
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> trinque: I don't see how this is a problem? << I am a librarian, a collector. I want to collect information without collecting a bunch of executable rat turds
trinque: dunno that you see or perhaps don't value the problem the web did solve
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I don't see how this is a problem?
gabriel_laddel: if you don't like it, well, you've got the sexprs right there
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 04:35:09; gabriel_laddel: there is a partially complete js->parenscript transpiler so that you don't have to read js
trinque: so no, I don't think "run lisp program and open socket" is enough
trinque: you don't just write in isolation; you write in a vast context of interrelated concepts
trinque: in the don't-call-it-hypertext
trinque: don't care what you use; give me a universal reference to *THAT* concept
gabriel_laddel: I don't get why I need another language?
trinque: don't be stupid and ignore that
gabriel_laddel: trinque: they didn't do *everything* correctly, but yes.
trinque: I'm actually on-board that hypertext shouldn't specify executable code within
gabriel_laddel: punkman: there isn't really anyway out of that
punkman: gabriel_laddel: well even if you can translate all the worl'ds js to lisp, I still don't want any JS
BingoBoingo: trinque: Than do as I do, and don't run it.
trinque: punkman: yeah well I don't start with boil the ocean
gabriel_laddel: trinque: lol, we understand each other. BingoBoingo doesn't though.
trinque: we shall see; guy hasn't released anything yet and signed his name thereupon
trinque: haven't used either for anything aside from regular macros to make some stumpwm config prettier
trinque: BingoBoingo: I would say mr gabriel_laddel has it, that all syntaxes can be done within the lisp system, and simultaneously you find that the vast majority aren't necessary ☟︎
trinque: started with math, said "what if we didn't have any order of operations except those explicitly stated, and also "wtf re: infix anyway?" ☟︎
trinque: gabriel_laddel: just the bit about how if we don't make all these assumptions about order of operations, and arrange things sensibly, we've got sexps
gabriel_laddel: trinque: at the beginning of (I'd assume "A Realistic Solution to the Education Problem" but don't see it there)?
gabriel_laddel: so, this doesn't happen in lisp because everything IS it's own AST, as is.
gabriel_laddel: because you can't "get at" the AST, because that isn't how people naively write parsers.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: No, You don't fucking make XML
punkman: gabriel_laddel: I haven't because I don't wanna emacs
trinque: BingoBoingo: dunno bout that; isn't it to model your problem in clear terms?
punkman: gabriel_laddel: I get your point but also, this kinda sounds to me like "don't use math symbols, write it all with the full power of english" ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: punkman: the whole DSL thing doesn't have a name in lisp because it isn't needed
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: If I want to print pretty papers I don't need, want, or desire turing complete postscript
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> punkman: you lose the full power of the programming language. << In nearly every case a 3rd part gives you code you don't want a full language. You want a plainly crippled language.
gabriel_laddel: I don't know wtf textbook highlighting has to do with anything
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: I don't think you have context here
gabriel_laddel: there is a partially complete js->parenscript transpiler so that you don't have to read js ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 02:24:59; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266831 << i don't know the fella personally, but as i gather his main problem is starvation. it makes people foolish, i speak from experience
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267085 << the famished take self-funded sabbaticals now ? not that mats is wealthy, but eating wallpaper he ain't. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: oh yeah and can't make modern readers think too hard about their own versions
mircea_popescu: not that the general problem of "i will now emit a string of bits and you tell me if this is a function" isn't a very interesting ai topic.
mats: it doesn't protect against all forms of control flow hijacking
mircea_popescu: but it doesn't ?
mircea_popescu: things that aren't functions that got injected couldn't have the extra fixed payload injected along ?
mircea_popescu: doesn't even seem a halt-decidable problem
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I though you manced the necros? Isn't that what dark ELF's do?
asciilifeform: they haven't got tables of anything, just shit soup.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: aha, if for eating, doesn't much matter if the nonpressurized parts are of zamac << Yes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aha, if for eating, doesn't much matter if the nonpressurized parts are of zamac
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he didn't think that far ahead.
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 00:41:21; pete_dushenski: it's not like i expect him to go anywhere a la pankkake, tat, or decimation, but i don't trust him.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266831 << i don't know the fella personally, but as i gather his main problem is starvation. it makes people foolish, i speak from experience ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't know of any reason to think that esr regrets turning; he probably regrets not taking sufficiently many 'pieces of silver'
BingoBoingo: "misdemeanor" isn't such anymoar
mircea_popescu: don't sign with the devil. you will live to regret it if you do.
BingoBoingo: ks yo << And people were wondering why I wouldn't just plea out and pay a fine
asciilifeform: it isn't as if these trials took place in the court of some independent sovereign
mircea_popescu: can't even spell preponderence.
mircea_popescu: that consideration makes zero difference doesn't it.
mats: that some folks suggest the substance of any of my debates begin with 'so explain why i shouldn't windows' indicates they've no idea whats actually being discussed
mircea_popescu: they didn't want to fight the government, but niggas passing by
mats: it doesn't. but random passerby has to spend a shiny dime for the privilege of diddling your box
mats: howbout reasons why win10 ain't so bad as win7, 8, 8.1. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: and i'm none too amused by 'oh no she didn't' 'oh yes she did' banter either
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1266855 << not particularly. but the disagreement should be productive, not 'please explain why i shouldn't use winbloze' level ☝︎
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: wasn't lolin' man, was just wondering what the occasion was !
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Coons+Age | Jonny, I haven't see you in a coon's age, How the hell are you? by Tbone ... I've been waiting a Coon's Age for you to get your sorry keister out of the bathroom!
BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> ben_vulpes: i just saw 'benkay' logged in and was inquiring, as i hadn't seen that handle in a coon's age. << Coon vernacular for that period of time is "a minute" now
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i just saw 'benkay' logged in and was inquiring, as i hadn't seen that handle in a coon's age.
mats: in the service of that note, i can't say i particularly care about a guy whose chief 'contribution' is blathering at length on a blog
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: what, did the nick disconnect while i wasn't looking?
danielpbarron: i win all the auctions -- doesn't mean i'm profiting :/
pete_dushenski: "The $200 I spent was almost 1/3 of my bitcoin savings and I regret wasting my money on this. Maybe I will keep running BitcoinXT at home but I haven't decided."
mircea_popescu: they didn't manage to save it like syria or wut ?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Wouldn't be the same unless we got the money to hire a hot chick to read it
cazalla: BingoBoingo, we don't, but apparently our friends are finding it difficult to find us
pete_dushenski: it's not like i expect him to go anywhere a la pankkake, tat, or decimation, but i don't trust him. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: oh the williams sisters are going at it in a major ? that doesn't happen often enough
shinohai: I don't even need a microscope. Naked eye working fine thus far.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2015 07:16:33; trinque: you want to build your visa? build it on bitcoin, but don't systemd the thing and decide it must have a visa built in
shinohai: Don't even bother to sign them :/
danielpbarron: another key point is that it is never the virgin who is the victim; it's either her father or her husband. So the modern notion of "cheating" does not apply. It's not adultery for a married man to have sex with another woman so long as she isn't also married to another man
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> wow, picking up blondies at porcfest works that well, huh. << hah. I was referring to my past when I didn't yet believe in The Bible
danielpbarron: cazalla> danielpbarron is married? << lol no. Adultery is when a woman sleeps with a man who isn't her husband
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller gotta love it whgen you try to explain a few points to a redditard and he comes back with pure "i don't want to think!!!" on a stick.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2015#1266708 << i don't know for a fact that s. is alive ☝︎
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal so you don't buy, just sell ?
funkenstein_: well starfaring peoples might have different motivations and abilities, but I probably shouldn't speculate
mircea_popescu: somehow they don't insure people per-pound, because women are fat. but they want to sell insurance per mile. because the people who drive more also don't hold their knees together in the subway.
mircea_popescu: obviously they don't want the actual holes to be known, but sticking to their wants so closely begets failure. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 20:18:47; ascii_field: https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8702 << a bit schizo but overall logic is there.