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danielpbarron: also,
the links
to
the public log from s.b-a.link add an extra unnecessary '/' in
the root directory
punkman: well v3 brings strict signature format, not such a bad
thing
danielpbarron: bu-but..
the forum poll said it had 60% support!? how can
this 1% be?
punkman: oh and
they are already
talking about version 4
danielpbarron: SetBestChain: 1 of last 100 blocks above version 2 << anyone else seeing
this in
their .bitcoin/debug.log ? does it have
to do with 0.10 coming out?
kakobrekla: this
takes us another step further away from a potential cross sync doesnt it
mike_c: i'd like
to have unique constraint on fingerprint. maybe boot
the offending nicks from
the db?
mike_c: i want
there not
to be dupe keys.
mike_c: kakobrekla: did you have any
thoughts/opinions on wot dupe key issue?
jurov: nope. i'm certain i
talked about it here before.
jurov: i didn't dare
to find out just
to keep a
toy afloat
mike_c: jurov: but which way do
they lean?
to kick you or
to
tell complainer
to piss off?
jurov: aws will forward
them
to yo
mike_c: (not sure if aws would either on
that count..)
mike_c: did you get abuse reports? did
they stand up
to
those?
mike_c: jurov is. and selling 1
to ascii, 1
to somebody else, etc.
jurov: and you're buying, like 10 of
them?
mike_c: so if you resold x of
them, you could charge $2 per hr / x.
mike_c: one-time not
the right word. it's $2/hr if any, but not per-box.
jurov: btw, dedi aws is not one-time cost.
they ask $2/hour if *any* is running in
the region
jurov: at
that price maybe a seat at my guerrilla home router.. but
that one has only a celeron and main computer is
too noisy
to keep on all
time
mike_c: and he'd buy
that. he would still complain, but he'd pay.
mike_c: down
the road, with a bit of scale, you could sell him dedicated instance without ruinous one-time cost aws imposes
jurov: so you want me
to sell him c3.something aws instance and lie
to him it's physical?
mike_c: asciilifeform: so if you could get dedicated instance from jurovvps at non-ruinous cost
this would be a good
thing.
mike_c: listen
to what
they do, not what
they say. marketing 101.
mike_c: customer's don't know what
they want
mike_c: don't listen
to what
they say. he is paying
them, obviously it's
the best option right now.
jurov: if
they know what
they want, im not pressing it
mike_c: and
the service is: computing power for btc
jurov: which service? if it's phuctor, i can imagine it relies on sole access
to fast SSD storage.
mike_c: it won't be cheaper. for
the same reasons.
mike_c: i am arguing
that
the service will be more reliable and easier
to run on aws
than colo rack.
jurov: oh you're arguing reliability? i missed
that
mike_c: yes, i know. but i don't
think you're disagreeing
that colo will have lower reliability?
jurov: so, again, all but
trivial stuff
mike_c: look at
the
trouble mpex has had over
the years.
mike_c: if you buy a rack in a colo you'll never have
the same kind of reliability
mike_c: but
the difficulty of IaaS is why reselling aws makes sense
to me.
mike_c: hm,
that seems different. enterprise cloud management.
jurov: and lines below
that
mike_c: recently? don't
think so.
jurov: it's all but
trivial
mike_c: and does all
the
time. and is replaced
trivially
jurov: virtual hardware can eat shit
too
mike_c: why?
then when your actual hardware eats shit you're down.
mike_c: well,
that's why jurov resells
them.
jurov: they do hae "dedicated" instances, but i'm not pressing
the point
jurov: and back
to
topic, currently i'm about reselling aws stuff,
that's a start. i know some
trustworthy people here
that do vpses, i'll ask
them for cooperation
lobbes: jurov:
thanks for
the link. I got my own VPS
to fuck up,
though. ;)
lobbes: asciilifeform: unless i misunderstand, jurov isn't opening a clinic for
the poor << Fair enough. Point
taken
jurov: lobbes if you want, i can give you simpleshell.com
to learn it's low maintenance, but also low profit
lobbes: Sounds like a cool learning opportunity
though
lobbes: I wouldn't add much value, but I'd work for free as an extra set of hands/eyes. You'd still need someone
that knew what
they were doing, of course. Plus I wouldn't be available 24/7 so maybe I'd be no use lol
mike_c: you could hire a service
to handle
tier 1 monitoring and wake you up if
there's an emergency.
jurov: namworld is not with bitvps anymore, and
they're imo pretty lame
jurov: i see
this is serious and
there's interest. but
the last obstacle is i must do
this
together with someone, it needs someone on duty 24hrs
mircea_popescu: but
then you gotta commit
to make it a job. i
think
there's a pretty decent living in it, but whadda i know.
mircea_popescu: if you want, i can front you
the capital
to colo a few servers wherever you want, and work off
that.
jurov: re: simpleshell.com everything in chroot was killed after 15 minutes,
that's is quite a difference from permanent setup, and abuse reports were last blow
jurov: i have plenty experience with using VPSes, not with running
them
jurov: btw, anyone needs sysadmin? some deals fell
through
jurov: have
to make some dough first,
then i can finally fix it
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