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mircea_popescu: well die transistors autoplaced is prolly about on par with making yourself a 3d gun that works.
asciilifeform: (helps if there's some redundancy)
BingoBoingo: File this in reasons I did not make a nubrub for my OBSD bitcoin-qt build
asciilifeform: place the dies, obviously, robotically
mircea_popescu: just sayin, you know ? could prolly be made in a box, if one felt like placing 100k items by hand. if he works 8 hours a day at this, it won't take 10 years.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one can get bare-die transistors
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we were considering discrete transistors
mircea_popescu: 1k times
mircea_popescu: still they're 1k ligther today than in 1940
mircea_popescu: but foir the sake of argument, made by hand from discrete semi parts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is thinking of soviet-style metal 'tin can' transistor as being used in the pdp, and is correct
decimation: if you allow logic gate ic's you could reduce the transistor count
mircea_popescu: you kidding me, the thing had glass diodes.
mircea_popescu: no they're not!
asciilifeform: aha those
asciilifeform: if it's of the kind one can individually hold in a hand, they are quite the same
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the 2 gram shits i had as a kid ?
mircea_popescu: a pdp could probably be cloned today by hand in a finite timespan, fit in box.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what transistor are you thinking of ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'The backplanes contain 230 cards, approximately 10,148 diodes, 1409 transistors, 5615 resistors, and 1674 capacitors. Cards only used for interconnect were not counted.' << the important point is element miniaturization then vs now. at the time, 1k transistors > 100 lbs. today, 1k tranzistors < 1oz.
decimation: I would be interested if you could feel a blank pcb and a pile of random parts into a machine, press the magic button, and pop out an assembled board
mircea_popescu: the phone in toaster guy is clearly shopping on the wrong silkroad clone.
asciilifeform: now that is certain.
decimation: I suspect it yields finer geometry too
asciilifeform: variably toxic depending on your etchant
decimation: plus it really isn't all that toxic
decimation: that honestly seems easier than milling
asciilifeform when makes pcb at home, uses the ancestral method - like b&w photo
asciilifeform: so, as i said, very simple through-hole boards
decimation: nothing really beats 'solder mask' for that purpose
decimation: re: milled pcb < I wonder if they would be a pain in the ass to solder
asciilifeform: whores for the horses.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 'if wish were horse' etc << if wish were whores they'd be hoarse for the horses ?
BingoBoingo: <decimation> although I would not want to breathe the copper/fiberglass fumes << Better than cold sea sponge farts
decimation: although I would not want to breathe the copper/fiberglass fumes
decimation: there are a few cnc machines marketed for this purpose
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> who are you to say what drunken future brings! << I'll volunteer to take point on this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily: diametric, i think, might be making a pcb this way as we speak
mircea_popescu: who are you to say what drunken future brings!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: you can't draw a circuit on a sheet of copper with nonconductive glue either... << don't oppress my genius! if you CUT the copper and the substrate is Conveniently Chosen (TM) it might work!
decimation: there is a funny thing about 'professions'. if you like to kill animals, being a vet is a great idea
BingoBoingo: I'm still jsut amazed by the difference between 8 yo scared of other people and labeled autistm-ish vs. HS lots of social connections constantly tired West nile and no one cares
decimation: asciilifeform: true. it would pay for daily bread anyway
mircea_popescu: decimation you gotta talk their language tho, which dirties the soul.
asciilifeform: someone - gets to be urban shrink
asciilifeform: decimation: even if napoleon wrote that 'every soldier's knapsack must contain a fieldmarshall's baton', not everyone can be fieldmarshal
decimation: if I were a psychiatrist I would be all about treating 'needy' suburbanites rather than being part of the urban internal security service
mike_c: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you might as well put my name on the wot job. looks like i'm doing it.
decimation: well, as has been covered by tlp, there is much profit to be made in labeling pathologies
BingoBoingo: I tend towards much of the "diagnosis" that begets pathology not being such at all
decimation: yeah 'overdiagnosis' is probably a problem too
decimation: perhaps 'geek parents' having children at >35 has something to do with the autism rates
BingoBoingo: <decimation> I would bet that if you asked the parents of the non-vaccinated, they would say that they want to 'prevent autism' << For a period of time my parents thought they autism'd me with vaccines
BingoBoingo: Pathology threads are generally best threads
decimation: I would bet that if you asked the parents of the non-vaccinated, they would say that they want to 'prevent autism'
asciilifeform: but ended up being 'don't play with rotting corpses in the streets'
asciilifeform: to go with the plague thread - it was meant to be a summary, of sorts, of the pathology;
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And the result is still unparalleled in the tech press
decimation: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/tech-companies-and-vaccines/ << google and cisco day cares have less than 70% rate
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Qntra is always open to 1st half rants from you
asciilifeform: because i simply got tired and started to fall asleep.
mike_c: <+BingoBoingo> http://qntra.net/2015/02/your-disk-controller-and-you/ << Prolly the best qntra so far. << I agree. awesome article asciilifeform.
assbot: Leviticus 13 NKJV - The Law Concerning Leprosy - And the - Bible Gateway ... ( http://bit.ly/19zCCmd )
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the funny part is that it is mostly the children of the less-poor (california, clustered around enclaves of mega-bezzle) who are dropping << This part, also vermont which threatens dpb directly
asciilifeform: the funny part is that it is mostly the children of the less-poor (california, clustered around enclaves of mega-bezzle) who are dropping
BingoBoingo: Rights is exactly the wrong argument here
BingoBoingo: I have a right to kill all with fire
danielpbarron: "but i have a right to go shopping even when i'm contagious!"
danielpbarron: hide them in the desert
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> i think a better solution is to hide sick people away, checking in on them every week and not letting them return to society until the illness is gone << You forget water is one dirty bitch
mike_c: people will stop taking medical advice from jenny whats-her-name
mike_c: the vaccine isn't 100%. i'm not that crazy about it though. i figure a few more outbreaks and this no-vaccince fad will go away quickly.
danielpbarron: i think a better solution is to hide sick people away, checking in on them every week and not letting them return to society until the illness is gone
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/02/your-disk-controller-and-you/ << Prolly the best qntra so far. Imminently applicable to bio chamistry
trinque: two generations out of a high child mortality rate and people think they're bulletproof
BingoBoingo: My position in this is that unidentified proteins must be assumed evil.
danielpbarron: i don't buy that at all; if your kid has the stupid thing then he should be safe
mike_c: which is one reason herd protection is important, which is why danielpbarron is trying to kill my children.
mike_c: not most of them
mircea_popescu: the other thing is, they give vaccines to 2 hour olds, which is also fucking dumb.
BingoBoingo: MMR great, live microwaved polio great. Herpes Zoster... prolly still getting Tony Larussa Shingles
mircea_popescu: now people won't get polio vaccine because "vaccines are bad". dumb shit like that.
danielpbarron: fwiw i probably have all the vaccines you guys are harping about; my parents don't share my views in this regard
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's bs like zona zooster and flu "vaccine" that ruin the otherwise reasonable shit for everyone. << That
mircea_popescu: it's bs like zona zooster and flu "vaccine" that ruin the otherwise reasonable shit for everyone.
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> because of the uncomfortably high chance of acute brain infection leading to permanent damage << Why I don't get measles chickenpox comparisons "But they both itch"
danielpbarron: mass vaccination is like the systemd of medicine. >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2015#1024081 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <decimation> when the salk vaccine came out, it gave 40k people polio << k vs M situation
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> oh get out. << Chickenpox, fuck it. Measles, I'll take a 25% return on bitches knocked up
trinque: BingoBoingo: I have; he can head this way when tshtf
gribble: Marin mom lashes back at 'measles party' media furor - SFGate: <http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Marin-mom-lashes-out-at-measles-party-media-6078083.php>; Pox party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party>; Do Not Bring Your Kids To 'Measles Parties,' Doctors Warn: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/11/measles-parties-warning_n_6658232.html>
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> fuck this country. << Pls tell me you have a Mosin
hanbot: where are the 11 billion encephalitis cases 1850-1950?
BingoBoingo: Serious gambling talk though. Greater than 1:100 odds unvaccinated against measles kids are going to get brain damage. Encephalitis is a bitch.
danielpbarron: i've got enough brain damage, thank you
mike_c: hm, maybe the acute brain infection will improve your situation
decimation: when the salk vaccine came out, it gave 40k people polio
danielpbarron: and a general distrust of anything medicine in the USSA
ben_vulpes: i need that liquidity, yo.
decimation: there are some who transfer traditional ira/401k to roth, and then withdraw the 'contributions' after 5 years