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asciilifeform: iraq had (past tense, note) army, industry, economy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nonsense. the middle east always was enternally-warring. this is like husband stuck with a bad divorce, "at least i made her into a slut"
cazalla: mircea_popescu, yeah but at least it is clueless to each site equally on the list
asciilifeform: any more than montgolfier brothers had 'aviation'
asciilifeform: the politics of cyc etc. aside, such projects are about as interesting as the historical proposals to go to the moon in balloons, shooting men from cannons, etc.
gabriel_laddel: well, I've not looked at cyc yet, but thanks for the pointer.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: this is exactly what I was thinking of
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: if you're thinking of a human-cranked systematization project, straight to doug lenat's 'cyc' (i'll spoil it for you: it was stillborn)
asciilifeform: 1) ocr doesn't work because 99.99% is still ludicrously low - human reader -who fully understands the text- still required 2) no ocr exists or is reasonably likely to ever exist for anything rich in notation 3) the machine-readability of most mathematical work is a fully ai-complete problem
gabriel_laddel: my basic understanding of category theory is that there are interesting things that can be derived when you break down basic mathematics into some abstractions such as functors, mappings etc.
asciilifeform: the whole affair went on in its current form far too long for the usual dance of the buggers - 'pretend it never happened' - to go as does
gabriel_laddel: nah, the obvious, in the case of category theory: Sucking up all the mathematics ever via some OCR routines and categorizing it via computer. Have an intern write a parser for latex -> ast
asciilifeform: if they did it, someone, somewhere, might dig up the fella who actually invented it
gabriel_laddel: it seem to me that they're not doing the obvious, which bothers me somewhat.
asciilifeform: only the very basics.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: btw, do you know any category theory?
asciilifeform: all tumours eventually stop growing...
gabriel_laddel: we just have to wait
asciilifeform: of the ordinary sort
asciilifeform: physics - as a discipline - is 99+% tumour, with scarcely any patient tissue remaining
asciilifeform: whereas all kinds of bullshit, which cannot be observed anywhere, ever, even in principle - is entirely real to a 'string theorist.'
asciilifeform: 'For example, Newton's apple contains vitamin C (L-ascorbic acid) which is parity-asymmetric, and it would accelerate differently if the laws of gravity cared about the mirror images.' << lying scum, yes. implying that effect cannot exist because not observable with naked eye on naturally-occurring objects
gabriel_laddel: I'm not going to claim to know that the math works out unless I do it myself though
gabriel_laddel: that should be clear to anyone reading it
asciilifeform: that could easily be tested.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: let's put it this way. the theoretical work gives very specific - numeric - predictions
asciilifeform: but they insist on it anyway
asciilifeform: decimation: it is quite possibly impractical to make bga (ball grid array) ic packages without pb
gabriel_laddel: glosses over the whole point of the experiment, which he would know if he has read it)
assbot: parity - Weak equivalence principle tests - Physics Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1AI8MGd )
gabriel_laddel: (for the record, I've not run the numbers on Schwartz's experiment yet, don't know for sure yet that it is valid, but can say that yes, everything he says is falsifiable and yes, everyone who say "he is a crank" etc. is a lying scumbag for not pointing out the exact sentence where he missteps. EG: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/7757/weak-equivalence-principle-tests in which a "string theorist" knowingly
asciilifeform: decimation: the 'gpu issue' happens on even more recent macbooks << it's been a thing ever since the mandatory switch to pb-free
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the merging of those two ideas yields a pretty powerful metaphor. << let's have the ps0t, yes. looking forward to reading it
asciilifeform: plus they churned inventory, the real immediate purpose of all usg .mil maneuvers
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you will notice the imperial mooks got utterly owned in that play << afaik usg accomplished their one non-negotiable thing in iraq - break the orcs into eternally-warring bantustans, 'vaccinate' against any possible emergence of a real sovereign
asciilifeform: (i did work through a good chunk of the maths behind al's eötvös adventures, for own edification and to attempt to come up with a way to rescue him - to learn how that went, see old thread)
asciilifeform: though i have not tried it personally, nor do i know enough about roaches to say if there are nuances not accounted for
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: ditto the roach repellent
asciilifeform: (i have no reason not to believe him)
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: any more information on the Chinese run << of al's eötvös experiment ? just some private correspondence, where he confirms the same story told on usenet
cazalla: oops, forget to remove tardstalk from that one (have a longer list with other non news sites)
cazalla: anyone know if i'm missing any from the list? http://i.imgur.com/CFu2wJZ.png just using alexa as one metric, will find others for use in comparison each month going
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes tis complicated.
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 21:54:23; asciilifeform: with regards to 0.5.3, i was expecting to see some technical discussion re: total rework of the blockchain sync mechanism and its idiocies, but this didn't happen
mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2015#1034915 << we still need to have this talk, indeed. I haven't forgotten :] ☝︎
ben_vulpes: "failed to live...and impose their existence upon those children" << i'm a bit confused about the "give up, make way for the next generation" attitude when put next to the "parents should impose their existence upon their children".
decimation: asciilifeform: not having an intelligence agency of my own, i regard it as an open question just how usg might behave should it ever begin to lose < My prediction is 'descent into regional civil war'
decimation: apple assumes that you don't need to use your computer to compute, so it isn't designed for sustained levels of cpu-pegging
decimation: asciilifeform: another colleague of mine is shipping his back as we speak - kernel panics every 20min or so << I'm convinced that the 'gpu issue' happens on even more recent macbooks
assbot: How I was wrong : Cuckolding, or a story about sigmas pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LYPfmE )
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mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel no i got that.
decimation: right, which is why it amazes me that it's unheard of in the us
mircea_popescu: civilised people tend to play it for xmas.
decimation: apparently this is one artifact of the divorce between england and the 'continent'
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 01:10:09; asciilifeform: right now (see earlier thread) 'fat' is embezzled. what of when 'meat' is ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2015#1036608 << fwiw, the merging of those two ideas yields a pretty powerful metaphor. i've been considering it since you mentioned it first, earlier. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: btw, I was using the word "mooc" the other day, and I think you read it as "mook". I meant "MOOC" as in "massively open online course"
decimation: point of interest - on youtube one can easily obtain copies of the vienna philharmonic new year's concert (neujahrskonzert). it's clear that it is broadcast all over europe, yet I have never heard of it being broadcast in the us
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 01:07:58; asciilifeform: presently tested against designated foreign 'orcs' (what do you suppose urban battallions in iraq was a dress rehearsal for ?)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2015#1036601 << you will notice the imperial mooks got utterly owned in that play ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 01:05:16; gabriel_laddel: Only a crisis - actual or perceived - produces real change. when that crisis occurs, the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around. that I belive is our basic function: to develop altenatives to existing policies, to keep them alive and available until the politically impossible becomes politically inevitable.
gabriel_laddel: "he refused to stop living"
gabriel_laddel: nope. The one where you detailed your relationship with your father
assbot: The complexity of life, a triad pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LYLopK )
mircea_popescu: which the fuck is the grasshopper article
gabriel_laddel: Incidentally this is what Sean Parker's father did, and Sean is one of the coolest Silly con valley people
gabriel_laddel: I've nothing else to say. Your grasshopper article coupled with the rabbits exposition covers it all. Don't try and make things into that which they are not. And if you have a kid, care for /them as an individual/. Your life is over. Make way for the next generation.
mircea_popescu: liek teh child. in this sense, children are animals. not "people" in the sense of, "just like me".
mircea_popescu: that one. important part there being about understanding the animal is an animal, which is a category of things to be.
gabriel_laddel: as to why you killed it and not a wolf?
mircea_popescu: you ever read the discussion wit hthe slaves re the dead rabbit ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel if you got a purpose in mind, you need a tool not a child.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2015#1036553 << you know, just because hunters wear animal skins doesn't mean they're furry animals. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: The reason these things are interesting is becuase they exist independently of us, they're unavoidable.
gabriel_laddel: If your kid is asking question - answer them. They'll arrive at coding and mathematics by themselves.
gabriel_laddel: I might as well explicate my thoughts on the matter, perhaps I'll learn something from someone else who has thought about it.
mircea_popescu: the situation where i never had children yet understand more of parenting than all these people with children depending on them is about as alarming as the situation where i'd not be a woman but know more about fucking than all women. what a shitworld!
gabriel_laddel: he then tries to convince the kid that they should go home and code instead of answering the kids questions
gabriel_laddel: this is exactly correct. PG, for example, sees me coding in a coffee shop, is there with his kid.
gabriel_laddel: "This in turn because they've failed to live, as an actual act in this world, and impose their existence upon those children,so that everyone may be happy. Instead everyone's frustrated."
mircea_popescu: in africa there's a market for gold encrusted trabant, not so much for an actulaly good car.
assbot: Why Dogecoin is a scam, why the people pushing it are assholes, why Business Insider is a contemptible piece of shit, why anyone who ever worked for it will be dancing in the street for nickels and why Kevin Rose is a fuckwit. Plus other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1E4cknk )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/why-dogecoin-is-a-scam-why-the-people-pushing-it-are-assholes-why-business-insider-is-a-contemptible-piece-of-shit-why-anyone-who-ever-worked-for-it-will-be-dancing-in-the-street-for-nickels-and-wh/#identifier_1_52654 win of all time.
mircea_popescu: shit yeah. tyvm
mircea_popescu: "That'd be your VC circuit : a bunch of old men who have no time to spend with their actual children. They claim this is because "they have to work", but in fact it's because a) they're afraid of their actual children and b) their actual children hate and despise them, in no particular order. This in turn because they've failed to live, as an actual act in this world, and impose their existence upon those children, so
assbot: Why Dogecoin is a scam, why the people pushing it are assholes, why Business Insider is a contemptible piece of shit, why anyone who ever worked for it will be dancing in the street for nickels and why Kevin Rose is a fuckwit. Plus other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1E4c5bQ )
gabriel_laddel: also, any more information on the Chinese run?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: do you have pointers to any information about Uncle Al's roach repellent other than mailing list / forum posts and the patent?
mircea_popescu: now where's that trrilema article i want to reference. the one pointing out this entire vc thing is old guys dating.
assbot: Logged on 01-03-2015 00:34:18; gabriel_laddel: The things these VCs fund are simply /strange/
asciilifeform: http://images.delcampe.com/img_large/auction/001/015/930/606_002.jpg?v=1 << example of the real thing
assbot: Rally 'round the white flag ... ( http://bit.ly/1LYGFEE )
asciilifeform: presently running the pg lulzatron as crown prince
asciilifeform: 'that was the depth gauge, silly'
mircea_popescu pictures asciilifeform in bed with a woman he picked up earlier in metro. she goes "oh honey, that was SO FUCKING GREAT!" he goes "or maybe i wasn't even in!"
asciilifeform: or employs a monkey to write 'his' communique
mircea_popescu: srsly, the most elistest minds OF A SOCIETY ?
mircea_popescu: you know this guy is retarded.
gabriel_laddel: Even if he knows what he is doing, still a fuckwit. Everyone knows the story of the scorpion and the monk, right?